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Should AR come to the UK?

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Services for Real Estate Pros with Globrix
An interesting question I'm sure you'll agree! Should AR go international? Would it work any where else? Are the British too stiff lipped to embrace a friendly community where people share their wisdom rather than keep it all locked away in a black leather brief case?

As the only AR user based in London that I know of (please do correct me if I'm wrong) it's a question I think about often. I use AR because there's nothing like it over here, sometimes I feel like a cheater for being a featured agent in a city which I only visit on vacation - but on signing up there was no international option and I just had to be part of the club!

But what if AR was over here? Would it work?

To my knowledge there aren't any agents that blog in this entire country, can you believe it? There are some popular property blogs, but these are more a commentary on the market and are written by ex-journalists who have a keen interest in property. The Rat and Mouse is perhaps the most famous, 'rat and mouse' being cockney rhyming slang for 'house'. Renthusiast is another property blog. Then there's the Zoomf blog (where I work) and then there's a couple more blogs by some of the other property search websites. All in all you can count the property blogs on one hand, and not one is written by someone working directly with sellers and buyers. Does this surprise you? Because I still can't get my head around it!

One thing is for sure, Brits love to talk about the housing market! You can't go to BBC news without reading something about interest rates, mortgages, first time buyers or gazumping (got to love crazy English words like gazumping!). So it seems strange that there aren't more blogs.

It's not that we're technologically backwards, blogs are very popular here, it just hasn't taken off at all in this industry.

When I've spoken to agents, and shown them AR, many just can't see what they'd write about, which is obviously something that all people come across when they first start blogging. A lot of them also express fear in writing something that could get them sued, or in hot water with their bosses.

One big difference with the UK and the US is that agents are almost not people in their own right here, whereas your name means something in the US and you're almost a brand yourself, in the UK the individual agents just work for an 'estate agency' and their names themselves mean nothing. People don't recommend people here, they recommend the agency. This means two things, agents don't have to worry about promoting themselves as such and they also have the fear of saying anything that the agency bosses would disagree with.

Our property market always seems to be booming, and from some of the agents I've spoken to they are very much of the opinion 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'. They haven't seen the need to start blogging, although I believe that that is beginning to change.

The general public in England have a low opinion of estate agents, they're often seen as untrustworthy and scrupulous, and it's a reputation that isn't fair for many. This is what I think is going to drive agents towards blogging, sitting at a computer for a few minutes a day and writing a post can just make you look more human, more approachable. It helps build up that level of trust, and the ability for people to comment and for a two way conversation to emerge is really important. Agents will be able to learn from each other, to help make themselves better agents! And think of the international referrals if there was a global AR!

I think there'll one day be this silent revolution, a couple of the big agencies will get their agents on the case and then a whole flurry will be online trying to make a name for themselves.

If AR launched in the UK, I think it might have a slow start but would eventually do very well. British agencies are very competitive, so if AR did ever come over here those coveted featured agent spots would be fought over tooth and nail!
Brian Block
RE/MAX Allegiance, Managing Broker/Branch Vice President - McLean, VA
Northern Virginia & D.C. Real Estate
Poppy, with you setting the example, I see a future expansion of AR or similar forum to England and elsewhere.  After all, my company RE/MAX has led the charge of international expansion and leads the pack with offices in over 60 countries.  The concept has taken off very successfully in places such as South Africa.  One of my friends who recently returned from a honeymoon in the Dominican Republic said that he saw RE/MAX signs all over the place.  With virtually no borders on the internet, a similar worldwide expansion of a real estate forum is certainly possible, and I for one, would welcome it.
Oct 10, 2007 10:50 PM
Poppy Dinsey
Globrix - Anaheim, CA
London, UK
Hehe, I know RE/MAX too - very global indeed! Your right about there being no borders now we have such high speed communications like the internet, it's what can make these global expansions possible. 
Oct 10, 2007 10:55 PM
Jay McGillicuddy
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Verani Realty - Exeter, NH
Real Estate Broker
Hi Poppy great idea and life as an estate agent in England obviously is so much different than what we have here. Interesting concept you bring up. Maybe it could be profitable for the Rain gods.
Oct 10, 2007 11:14 PM
Poppy Dinsey
Globrix - Anaheim, CA
London, UK
Jay - I like the way you call them Rain Gods! Although the more I think about, if Active Rain came to the UK it may have to be rebranded as ActiveSunshine, we have enough rain already! 
Oct 10, 2007 11:17 PM
Matthew J Blum - (retired from the business)
Palm Beach Gardens, FL
Poppy, I think it would be a great idea. Speaking on the Mortgage side, with the US Dollar being so week right now it is a great time for people to invest in the USA.  The paperwork is really not that much.
Oct 10, 2007 11:44 PM
Poppy Dinsey
Globrix - Anaheim, CA
London, UK
Matthew - I think you are right, people really are looking to buy abroad at the moment. America is the obvious location because of the language and the general relationship between the two countries. And of course the fact that our domestic properties are pricing so many people out of the market, and the pound is so strong against the dollar. You may start hearing a lot more English accents on your shores!
Oct 10, 2007 11:51 PM
Cindy Jones
Integrity Real Estate Group - Woodbridge, VA
Pentagon, Fort Belvoir & Quantico Real Estate News
Poppy-Since my daugher lives in the UK I say bring on the AR.  Based on the home buying experience they had and the continuing problems with remodeling I think that the home sales process in the UK could stand a little exposure to how the US protects buyers with buyer agents :-)
Oct 11, 2007 12:26 AM
Jennifer Fivelsdal
JFIVE Home Realty LLC | 845-758-6842|162 Deer Run Rd Red Hook NY 12571 - Rhinebeck, NY
Mid Hudson Valley real estate connection
Poppy - Thanks for pointing out the difference between agents in the US versus those in the UK.  Maybe you could light a fire under the Brits by getting some media exposure of your blogging on AR.  This would give the interveiwer the opportunity to research what this network is all about.
Oct 11, 2007 12:18 PM
Eric Kodner
Madeline Island Realty - La Pointe, WI
CRS, Madeline Island Realty, LaPointe, WI 54850 -

Poppy, you have brought up a great idea!  I hope the Top Dogs at AR are reading this.

Going international with the Active Rain concept could be a fabulous idea.  You mentioned in your post that the public in the UK tends to distrust real estate agents.  This site promotes transparency and communicates to the public something about who you are, not merely what you do for a living.  Agents "over there" would likely benefit from this kind of exposure to consumers.

Nov 11, 2007 03:11 AM
Eric Kodner
Madeline Island Realty - La Pointe, WI
CRS, Madeline Island Realty, LaPointe, WI 54850 -
Poppy, are you on BritBlog.com?  Do you know anyone else in the UK that is using that site to promote their blog?  Just curious..
Nov 25, 2007 03:11 PM
Poppy Dinsey
Globrix - Anaheim, CA
London, UK
Hi Eric, I don't use that site or know anyone that does - in fact, I've never heard of it! A lot of people in the UK use Blognation to promote their blogs.
Nov 25, 2007 07:12 PM
Sharon Simms
Coastal Properties Group International - Christie's International - Saint Petersburg, FL
St. Petersburg FL - CRS CIPS CLHMS RSPS
Poppy - you go for it! If the other UK agents are slow to start blogging, that just gives you a headstart. There are some great topics for blogs that would be consumer related (and good for US agents to know as well). First of all - the misconception of a common language: your appraiser is like our surveyor, for example. Your notary has official standing - ours can be anyone anywhere who can match your signature with your driver's license. If UK buyers in the US wait to get all of their "what if"s answered before making an offer, they may lose the property. So similar, yet so different. What wonderful topics for blog posts!
Dec 31, 2007 12:06 PM
Mitchell J Hall
Manhattan, NY
Lic Associate RE Broker - Manhattan & Brooklyn
Poppy, Great blog. I love the term gazumping it happens in Manhattan all the time. My market has more similarities with London than with other US markets. Very clever that you picked Anaheim because of your last name. Are you Walt's great grand daughter? Oh it's Dinsey - lol.
Dec 31, 2007 02:01 PM
Poppy Dinsey
Globrix - Anaheim, CA
London, UK

Sharon - The difference in language always fascinates me in this area, the same terms can mean very different things across the ocean!

 Mitchell - Glad you liked my location choice....I did once get VIP treatment in Orlando because of my surname, I didn't correct anyone!!! Hehe 

Dec 31, 2007 09:14 PM