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"The Attic Is Properly Prepared For Storage." It's The Latest Thing!

By
Home Inspector with Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC 3380-000723

Lists featuring what has been done to a house can be a good marketing tool.  But sometimes things that get advertised can get a home inspector very excited!

The list on this house included, "The Attic Is Properly Prepared For Storage."  A whole lot has to happen for that to be true.  I seldom see it.  Attics usually don't make very good storage spaces!

I got the story though when the listing agent stopped by to "answer any questions." 

It seems the "local DIY expert," her words, has been "wonderful," her word, about showing the homeowners in the neighborhood how to do the "latest things," her words, to their houses.

One of the "various improvements," her words, was to do the "latest thing" to the attic!  And it was done some time ago.

Now follow me as I try to help you to grasp the "latest thing" in attic wear!

First, apparently, is to remove as much of the insulation as possible from the floor of the attic.

That is so that plywood can be laid down flat for better support for storage.

Some areas, like the small space here, cannot accept plywood, so they were simply left uncovered.

Everywhere else can be covered completely with plywood!

So where does the insulation go, you might ask?

Well, between the roof rafters!  This is the "latest thing."

It holds up real well with 1x4s!

In this attic much of it was falling, there were serious gaps, and whole sections of sheathing did not get covered.

But you can always get back to that later!

Then, you sprinkle, willy nilly, cellulose insulation over some, but not all, areas of the plywood.  A light coating of insulation seems to be the "latest thing."

This leaves you plenty of room to get creative with the next "latest thing" for your attic.

Layering and shelving!

Don't worry, we'll get to that falling and missing insulation later. 

And the gaps?  Well, nothing is perfect.

What we NOW have in this attic is a big shed, PROPERLY PREPARED FOR STORAGE!

That is the "latest thing!"

By the way, both upstairs bathrooms vented directly into the attic space.  The tubing which used to service them was laying on the floor. 

This was apparently done to add additional air movement to the attic space as both gable vents, which provide the ONLY venting for this attic, were made substantially smaller.  It's the "latest thing" to "control" air flow, especially in winter!

Question, and this one will be on the final exam, so get it right.  What happens when you cover roof sheathing with insulation, introduce two bathroom vents into the attic, and restrict air flow through the attic space?

You got it!

And all over the place!

And in many shapes, sizes and colors!  It was quite the fashion statement! *

YOU DO KNOW WHAT THAT STUFF IS, DON'T YOU BOYS AND GIRLS?

While not quite the "latest thing," this is probably the thing that happened MOST LATELY!

Selfishly, as a home inspector, I hope every neighborhood has a generous DIYer who is so eager to share his knowledge with the rest of us!  This guy is great!

I have to tell you, it sure makes my job fun!

And, side benefit of all side benefits, I enjoyed a wonderful sauna while I was up in there!  My shirt completely changed color!

My recommendation:  if there is a generous, local DIYer in the neighborhood of your listing, you might want to have your house looked at by a home inspector BEFORE you advertise that fact in your Feature List!  The inspector will be able to tell you what IS and IS NOT the "latest thing."

* And it tastes like chicken...

 

 

 

Posted by

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comments (54)

Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Yeeesssh---got to love that listing info

Jun 24, 2011 07:12 AM
Robert Butler
Aspect Inspection - Montreal West Island, QC
Montreal Home Inspector | Aspect Inspection

Hey Jay your sure have a beauty there. If I were in another business I'd be wondering where you find these gems. As it is I know they are out there. Then we have the DIY team out here 'salting' the earth.

Jun 24, 2011 08:13 AM
Ray Waisler
Finance of America - Atlanta, GA
NMLS #6621 - Specializing in Jumbo FHA & VA

Jay, really....you have to admit she was just putting a positive spin on a situation; the mark of good salesperson....hehe. The only thing is that if she keeps it up, she may wind up being the latest thing to go out of this business.  

Jun 24, 2011 08:29 AM
Tammie White, Broker
Franklin Homes Realty LLC - Franklin, TN
Franklin TN Homes for Sale

In TN, basements are rare so people either use their attic or garage for storage. Unfortunately, these poor souls didn't really think this one through.

Jun 24, 2011 09:10 AM
Brad Rachielles
CENTURY 21 Peak, Ca BRE# 01489453 - Upland, CA
REALTOR, CDPE, Upland, CA

Fads come and go. This "latest thing" better go fast, and this neighborhood DIYer should be made to endure the sauna while you point out the results of his folly..... and then be billed for the inspection.

Jun 24, 2011 09:12 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Jack (and Izzi and Mickey) - that was one of the best saunas I have ever had!

Charlie - this one was real complete too!  It gave me all kinds of hints as to what to look at!

Robert - people think I make these things up!  I really don't!  The DIYers are out there and in force!

Ray - it was a positive spin!  The problem is, well, you know what the problem is...

Jun 24, 2011 11:49 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Tammie - he did think it through!  All the way to the end of the attic!  I hear you though!

Brad - well, woulda, coulda, shoulda be able to bill the guy!

Jun 24, 2011 11:50 AM
Chris Smith
Re/Max Chay Realty Inc., Brokerage - New Tecumseth, ON
South Simcoe, Caledon, King, Orangeville Real Esta

Jay, are you going to be marketing your new "mood" shirts that change fancy colours?  btw, I never realized that creating a perfect environment for mold was the latest thing ;-)

Jun 24, 2011 11:54 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Chris - there are so many home trends now it is hard to keep up with them.  I think any shirt can be used for the quick sauna in that attic!

Jun 24, 2011 12:02 PM
Eric Michael
Remerica Integrity, Realtors®, Northville, MI - Livonia, MI
Metro Detroit Real Estate Professional 734.564.1519

It's amazing that people can think that they can run exhaust fans into the attic and there won't be problems.

Jun 24, 2011 02:08 PM
Tim Bradley
Contour Investment Properties - Jackson Hole, WY
Commercial Real Estate Expert in Jackson Hole, WY

I thought 143 degrees was the perfect temperature to store things. Isn't that why the Air Force parks all their space planes in Arizona?

Jun 24, 2011 04:47 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Eric - that is very common out here, and an exceptionally bad idea as we have very high humidity.

Tim - yes, but that's dry heat!  It was pretty hot in that attic, but not dry!

Jun 24, 2011 10:33 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Ventilation, shmentilation, do you really need it. Or insulation for that matter. This guy is a visionary.

And as far as sarcasm, I do not know what that AR person was talking about. You, sarcastic!? Where are they getting that?

Jun 25, 2011 12:59 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

The sarcasm sometimes sets the mood Jim!

I can also be cynical, facetious and hyperbolistic.  How much fun is staid, anyway?

Jun 25, 2011 01:34 AM
Steven L. Smith
King of the House Home Inspection, Inc. - Bellingham, WA
Bellingham WA Home Inspector

Mr Jay,

Storage does not slow me down at alls. I moves arounds it. My agile-ness is wonderful.

Nutsy

Jun 25, 2011 05:42 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

In this house you could have moved about at will Nutsy!

Jun 25, 2011 10:15 AM
Jeremy Wrenn
Winslow Homes - Youngsville, NC
VP of Finance, Winslow Homes

Jay, I see what you mean.  He DID have help! 

And what help this DIY guy was!  He was a real FUNGI to have around!

Jun 25, 2011 12:06 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Good one Jeremy!  This place had problems out the wazoo.  It was a disaster.  There wasn't much that "creative writing" could have made better, or worse!

Jun 25, 2011 12:09 PM
Jeremy Wrenn
Winslow Homes - Youngsville, NC
VP of Finance, Winslow Homes

Thanks, Jay.  :)

Wow.  Amazing what people will try to sell to other folks!

Jun 25, 2011 12:13 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

From listening to the realtor Jeremy, they thought this kind of thing was a feature!

Jun 25, 2011 12:14 PM