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More Insight into Real Estate Fraud as it Exists (or does NOT Exist) Today

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Real Estate Attorney with http://www.medicalandspaconsulting.com

Since the topic of fraud received so many comments, I decided to stay on that topic for a series of blogs. This issue affects all of us and it is important to fully understand this issue.  I recently had an investor with two deals under contract in Reno, Nevada.  In each case (two different listing agents) the listing agent came back and stated that THEY (the agent) could not accept the offer.    This threw a red flag to the investor so he inquired further.

It turns out that in each case, the listing agent contacted NVAR and their general counsel indicated that this type of transaction was fraud!!!  The investor asked me to contact NVAR.  WELL….I had a pleasant and professional conversation with Sue Saunders, general counsel for NVAR. Her “official” position is that whenever a property is purchased and then re-sold in less than 30 days, it is fraud!!!  I asked her to justify her position with my long winded soliloquy about 29 days is fraud but 31 is not??  She replied that she cannot respond to the 60 + calls per day that she receives on this topic so she has a blanket policy. She does not even hear the facts of any particular case.

This is troublesome on many fronts.  First, the listing agent should not be unilaterally deciding that this is fraud.  It is arguably a breach of duty to the client.  Not to mention a deal killer.  Additionally, such behavior will result in investors disclosing less and that it legally permissible, but unfortunate.  They simply will not state their intention. Also, this position is in NEVADA – the hardest hot state in the union. Killing deals in Nevada is not a good plan.  In many, many cases, there are willing buyers and willing sellers but the deals are not being consummated because of the subjective opinions of a few -opinions that are not based on a thorough review of the facts.

Fraud is a legitimate concern for all of us.  However, knee jerk, emotional reactions are rarely the best options either.

Comments (4)

Jeanne M. Gavish
Jeanne Gavish, Keller Williams Realty Elite Partners - Spring Hill, FL
Keller Williams Realty Elite Partners - CIPS,GRI,S

Paddy, I read your other post and it was very good.  This is troubling indeed, as so many of us rely on our State Associations' Legal advice. 

Jul 09, 2011 01:13 PM
Dan Edward Phillips
Dan Edward Phillips, Humboldt and Del Norte Counties, CA - Eureka, CA
Humboldt and Del Norte Counties, CA

Good Morning Paddy, I am looking forward to the series.  There are better ways for agents to respond to offers.

Jul 09, 2011 11:42 PM
Maryann Little
Short Sale Mitigation, LLC - Methuen, MA
Short Sales Massachusetts

Paddy, I've been following your threads now for the last month.  You are EXCELLENT in the pursuit of the truth.  I would simply ask her to CITE you the law that states the selling of the property within a certain time is committing fraud. Ask her to prove to you it's illegal.  She can't.  There is an UNBELIEVEABLE amount of information over the internet that is simply NOT TRUE.  It's typically generated by a lender trying to recoupe the most money they can or someone else with a financial gain in the matter.

There are some excellent lawyers that specialize in the purchase and resell of short sales for profit.  It's a niche market that not every lawyer understands or have even heard of (except for the negative press)

Ron Ballard, Esq. out of California has the most comprehenseive blog on the resale of short sales for profit.  He states for civil fraud to exist one must show: A material misrepresentation (lie) 2) A material omission when there is a duty to disclose 3) reasonable reliance by the "victim"

If one of these is missing, there is no fraud. 

Title companies UNDERWRITE same day property transactions with full disclosure. 

Aug 27, 2011 07:43 AM
Paddy Deighan MBA JD PhD
http://www.medicalandspaconsulting.com - Vail, CO
Paddy Deighan J.D. Ph.D

Maryann, civil fraud is only a fraction of the problem..if you look at my AR blog from yesterday, you can see the GMAC Addendum in which they define fraud. It is ludicrous. Civil Fraud in the legislative sense has little to do with real estate fraud.  Most of what we read on the interenet about this is incorrect!!

Aug 27, 2011 03:01 PM