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Your Klout score is irrelevant to selling real estate, but it can be used against you...

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Services for Real Estate Pros with ha media group

Todd Carpenter wrote an interesting post about Klout last week, with the gist of it being that paying attention to Klout score doesn’t necessarily measure anything worth measuring for a real estate professional.  The way to get your Klout score up is basically to talk to and be +K’ed or mentioned by other influential people (influential based on their Klout score), so at the end of the day you might be Klout-worthy or influential, just in the wrong circles when it comes to selling real estate in your specific market.  Again – my interpretation, read the post, it’s short and quite good.

klout is meaningless

This post was inspired by a comment to Todd’s blog from Michael J. Maher, a Realtor in Kansas and the author of “(7L) The Seven Levels of Communication: Go from Relationships to Referrals”.  He voiced a dissenting opinion, stating that Klout score is not only important to a real estate professional, but he uses Klout during his listing appointments.  And I quote, from Michael’s example of how he uses his Klout score to get listings: “One of the questions I want you to ask the other professionals you interview is, what is your Klout score (and that is with a K, K-L-O-U-T dot com)? This is a beautiful question because 1) if they don’t know what it is, you can instantly eliminate them, 2) when they tell you, you can instantly compare influence, and 3) please write this down – mine is 78 and rising steadily. They say 20 means you are out there and over 50 is outstanding. What’s nice is that with one question, you will get a feel for their Internet savviness [sic.], which as you said before is important to selling your home.”

Outside of what I took to be a rather condescending tone of this particular sales pitch, it got me thinking that if I were say a Realtor in Michael’s market who happened to follow him to a listing appointment and a seller indeed asked me about my Klout score, I would quite possibly burst out laughing (after the initial shock and confusion wore off some).  I would then have to point out to this seller just how misguided the question is and I would probably feel compelled to explain just how very meaningless Klout score is.  I would have to tell them that having a high Klout score (or any, for that matter) would help me sell their house in the same way that being a Mayor of a particular Starbucks would.

But I don’t sell real estate for a living, and I do know what Klout is and what it does. So it made me wonder how many agents, asked that same question would blush, state that they’ve no idea what their score is (or, God forbid, what Klout is for that matter), and walk away feeling like they’d done something wrong.  They’d run home and spend an inordinate amount of time getting a Klout score to compete with Michael’s, they’d light up twitter with requests for +K’s and such and do all the things they are now told matter, none of which pertain in any way to the business of helping people buy or sell real estate.

So here is my attempt at saving you some time, should you ever find yourself having to answer the Klout question: First, remember that If you are ever asked what your Kllout score is, chances are, there was an agent there before you who believes Klout score is a meaningful measure of online influence and he used it in his sales pitch.  Now, feel free to explain to the seller that unless you are trying to score free movie tickets or lotion baskets, your Klout score is a pretty meaningless number as it pertains to your job.  It does not measure your online marketing efforts’ success in selling a home any more than winning at Farmville measures your aptitude as a farmer.  And then tell the seller how you will market their home online in all the places where buyers are looking for homes (and Klout isn’t one of those places), and explain the rest of your marketing strategy.

Lastly, feel free to tell the seller that there are two kinds of marketing, one that is all about agent self-promotion and one that is all about actually reaching a goal (in this case the goal of selling the home).  In order for you to have a high Klout score you’d have to devote every minute of your time to promoting your own greatness, and that would leave very little time for staging and photographing the property, for writing phenomenal descriptions of it, and for syndicating that property every place meaningful on the Internet. In simple terms – you are a real estate professional and not a kid trying to get laid.  Your job demands that you don’t waste your time on gimmicks in the hopes of getting a listing.  Klout, Foursquare, Empire Avenue et. al. are games, designed to boost one’s ego, and occasionally engagements in these platforms give one a false sense of doing something important.  So do what you do, and either engage in these little games or not, so long as you understand that they are just that, games and distractions, from which you might occasionally land a lead in much the same way you might land a lead from any other chance occurrence, - pleasant when it happens but statistically irrelevant.

For the record, my Klout score is 58, and it means absolutely nothing, I assure you.

Update: Michael and I have since had a surprisingly nice conversation on Twitter.  I still disagree with the above, but I am glad to have met him:-)

Originally published on my blog at http://teamhardison.com

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David James
ReMax Real Estate Services Columbia South Carolina - Columbia, SC

Klout represents the same mindset that assumes that the more you advertise a house the better chance you have of selling it, said mindset which has no clue as to how to sell a house usually advanced by people who have never sold one.

Jul 19, 2011 11:53 PM
Petra Norris
Lakeland Real Estate Group, Inc. - Lakeland, FL
Realtor, Lakeland FL Homes for Sale

Inna - I just checked my Klout score and it was 18 LOL - Most of my clients are elderly and I'm sure they are less concerned with a Klout score, the only thing they are concerned with is that I sell their home or find them a home as quickly as possible for the best price. Most of my online leads and clients come from hyper local blogging, so the Klout as you so eloquently stated is irrelevant to me and my online marketing strategy.

 

Jul 20, 2011 12:33 AM
Jeff Belonger
Social Media - Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc - Cherry Hill, NJ
The FHA Expert - FHA Loans - FHA mortgages - USDA loans - VA Loans

Inna.. I think this is spot on and keep arguing with someone that sells social media, telling me how important your Klout score is. Real Estate or not, I agree, it's a number that can be manipulated if you know how to play the game well. I just go about my own business and Klout has me at a 68. Besides, this friend of mine also has talked to the person that has created Klout and I guess he bought into it...

Overall, good topic here, especially for realtors. I do think Klout can help guide you in what you do... but just because you have a high number, doesn't mean that you are good at what you do. Good post..

jeff belonger

Jul 20, 2011 05:11 AM
Mitchell J Hall
Manhattan, NY
Lic Associate RE Broker - Manhattan & Brooklyn

Inna, Thanks for the heads up. I've never heard of klout and have no interest in giving my name and email to another gimmicky dotcom to find out anything about it. It may get listings for an agent in Kansas but "I don't think we're in Kansas anymore Toto"

If anyone ever asks (which I doubt) I'll tell them I have Clout because I know how to spell it ;-) I will list their condo in the real world and the agent with klout can list their kondo in virtual reality.

 

Jul 20, 2011 06:27 AM
Christine Donovan
Donovan Blatt Realty - Costa Mesa, CA
Broker/Attorney 714-319-9751 DRE01267479 - Costa M

Inna - That sounds like a fair way to handle the issue if it were to come up.

Jul 20, 2011 07:27 AM
Bryan Robertson
Los Altos, CA

I noticed that the Klout score is heavily tied to Twitter activity of which I have very little.  I post my blogs to Twitter and that's it.  So, I'll stick with my score of 18 and not worry about it.

Jul 20, 2011 08:17 AM
Jason Sardi
Auto & Home & Life Insurance throughout North Carolina - Charlotte, NC
Your Agent for Life

Credit Scores, Personality Tests, Klout Scores, whatever.

Social Media Experts ... whatever.

My Klout Score is probably akin to my IQ (49) ... whatever.

I'm all about progress, though.  I'll start updating Twitter & FB when my cats take a shit.

 

Jul 20, 2011 04:13 PM
Inna Hardison
ha media group - Orlando, FL
Wordpress for Real Estate & Design, Print HaMedia Group

To all - sorry for the belated responses.  

Anthony - hence using it as a measure by which a seller is supposed to eliminate an agent is what I found so offbase.:-)

Irina - 51 supposedly not anything to sniff at... Other than my nifty Spotify invite, I don't believe my Klout has gotten me anything, but a few laughs...

Pamela - Some will tell you that your Klout score does indeed matter.  I just don't see it, unless what you do for a living is selling social media training, and then it might matter some.

Adam - I don't know about all that.  I think it has caught on with people and I have nothing against the service itself.  I only take issue with how much one is willing to vest into something like that, because they are told to whether by a guru or a competitor.

John Novak - bingo.

Cheryl - chuckling is how I respond to downright silly, scary or uncomfortable - and this definitely qualifies.

Katerina - thank you, thank you.

Scott @13  - that's a bit harsh of you.  I don't see any fault with the site itself - it does what it says it does.  it's the usage that matters, as I'd guess is the case with most things.  I'll also say that each of us can take just as much or little of social media as we want or have time or desire for, so long as we all understand these various platforms and tools for exactly what they are, and don't pretend that our next tweet or status update or a jump in our Klout score will suddently make or break us.

Debbie @14 -Thanks.  I don't even think your Klout score is connected in any way to 'lead' gettage:-)

Liz & Bill @15 - I'll disagree.  I know plenty of websavvy people who don't know what it is and who don't particularly care to jump in to yet another bright shiny puddle.  I think websavvy when it comes to selling real estate is about all things but Klout, the things that actually help sell a home, for example:-)

Jul 21, 2011 04:56 AM
Inna Hardison
ha media group - Orlando, FL
Wordpress for Real Estate & Design, Print HaMedia Group

Cindy @16 - I didn't know anything about him untill this exchange, and I must say he seemed surprised he came off like this.  I'd rather he were surprised he takes his Klout so seriously as to use it like this during listing appointements though.  He was very gracious, btw:-)

David @17 - hmmm, a bit harsh and not sure how relevant to this conversation.  What do you mean by advertising in this sense? There are properties in certain markets that need all the advertising they can get, last I checked.  

Petra @18 - oh no, they'll tell you it's pretty crappy:-)  You should immediately drop whatever you are doing and start sending and responding to tweets from influencers with really high scores... LOL.

Jeff @19 - :-)  Thx, Sir.  Anything can be manipulated, of course. I just look at it as an investment of time, and I always find that it's easier to just do good work than to seek out new and inventive ways of manipulating one bit of math or another.

 

Jul 21, 2011 05:03 AM
Inna Hardison
ha media group - Orlando, FL
Wordpress for Real Estate & Design, Print HaMedia Group

Mitchell @20 - well, that suprises me.  I always think of you as one who knows everything:-)  And Clout you definitely have, deservedly, i might add.

PS: thx for dropping by our site, and my apologies for my scr bots:-)

Christine @21 -thanks.  That's how I'd handle it, methinks.

Bryan @22 - and you'll be just fine with your 18 would be my bet.

Sardi @23 - I am genuinely concerned for the well-being of your kitties.

Jul 21, 2011 05:08 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

HA!  If I were asked about my Klout score, I'd simply ask the consumer "Well, how many points does Mr. Maher on ActiveRain.  That would be easy to demonstrate.

Consumers who would rely on anything as silly as a Klout score would probably rely on Zillow for home values.

 

 

Jul 21, 2011 07:50 AM
Inna Hardison
ha media group - Orlando, FL
Wordpress for Real Estate & Design, Print HaMedia Group

HA! Right back at you, Lenn.  :-)  I have no doubt you'd know just what to say and how to say in any situation...

Jul 21, 2011 01:30 PM
Larry Bettag
Cherry Creek Mortgage Illinois Residential Mortgage License LMB #0005759 Cherry Creek Mortgage NMLS #: 3001 - Saint Charles, IL
Vice-President of National Production

I'm with Lenn!!!!!  Awesome!  Screw the Klout if you do business by referral.  Just b/c my business isn't based on web leads, doesn't mean that it's not thriving....it is.....but since more business does come from the web, it's something that I need to apy attnetion to!

Jul 21, 2011 06:03 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Klout is technically defective.  My score is a bare 10 because I have never been able to even get entered.  It will pick up the FB but not the Twitter traffic. 

Even so, Facebook and Twitter, and certainly not Klout, are not the measurement of my "influence" in the real estate community. 

 

Jul 21, 2011 10:55 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

FINALLY (maybe). 

A search on Google for returns shows

Klout - 3,520,000

Active Rain - 17,410,000

Homefinders.com (that would be me) - 70,600,000

Michael J. Maher - 6,450,000

Jul 22, 2011 12:31 AM
Inna Hardison
ha media group - Orlando, FL
Wordpress for Real Estate & Design, Print HaMedia Group

Lenn - granted, although I'd also say that if an agent at a listing appointment asked the seller to eliminate their competition based on presense on AR or number of AR points, I'd disagree with that method as well.  :-)

Jul 22, 2011 12:48 PM
The Somers Team
The Somers Team at KW Philadelphia - Philadelphia, PA
Delivering Real Estate Happiness

Inna - came here from a reblog.  Loved your article.  Most sellers get lost when you mention a few things Internet based on the marketing program, they would definitely get lost on "Klout".  At the end of the day, they really care about how many homes you have sold in the area in the last year, your presence in the neighborhood and your marketing prowess.  I agree, Klout has nothing to do with marketing of their home and CERTAINLY has nothing to do with real estate experience and production !  Is laughable indeed.  Agents need to concentrate on production and selling homes, not being behind a computer increasing their Klout score.  I can see that maybe being more important in other industries ... maybe for the likes of Chris Brogan and such. 

Jul 24, 2011 04:18 AM
Jason Sardi
Auto & Home & Life Insurance throughout North Carolina - Charlotte, NC
Your Agent for Life

Kittens Cute? 

Sardi @23 - "I am genuinely concerned for the well-being of your kitties."

I hope the concern is not that genuine, those kittens cute are well taken care of.  But their Klout score sucks.  One step at a time in this household ...

Aug 04, 2011 06:10 PM
1~Judi Barrett
Idabel, OK

I came by way of Jeff Belonger's re-blog.  My comment on his re-blog:

What a relief!  I have felt so inadequate when attending Raincamp where Klout scores were talked about.  That was the first time that Ihad heard about Klout.    It's just me, myself, and I although Don is taking his real estate course and will be able to take over some of the licensed duties.  I really do not have time to waste on non-productive game playing on the internet whther it's Farmville, FourSquare, or Klout. 

You do not know how much you have improved my mood tonight with  this post.  I have a long list to do right after I do these supper dishes.. :)

 

Sep 01, 2011 01:05 PM
Jim Paulson
Progressive Realty (Boise Idaho) www.Progressive-Realty.info - Boise, ID
Owner,Broker

I have looked briefly into Klout but realize that you can "game" the system.  One way that Klout ranks you is by the number of people that post comments on your posts.  Therefore, posting controversial blogs generate discussion and therefore Klout?  Posting questions (i.e.  what is your favorite color?) gets comments but why should that give you Klout?  I could post a tear jerking (albeit Snopes worthy) post about some cute kids desire to get "like's" from every country on the planet so please share this post" and my Klout score would skyrocket!  

I loved some of the responses here!

Sep 22, 2011 03:39 AM