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Rubber Stamp? I think not!

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Real Estate Agent with Jameson Sotheby's International Realty

Private Mortgage Insurance used to be a formality, a true "Rubber Stamp".  Those days are gone. 

Just like lenders, PMI companies are becoming pickier and pickier.  Particularly in areas that are still rated as "declining markets"  Almost all loans that are putting down less than 20% require PMI, and even if the lender approves of the loan, without PMI, the deal is a non-starter.

PMI used to be considered a foregone conclusion... yes, you need it, but it was unthinkable that they would say "no".

In recent years, PMI has had to pay out untold wads of cash, and I guess they're tiring of it, and have begun disapproving of loans like a father of a teen-aged-daughter meeting her new leather-clad, tattooed & pierced, motorcycle-riding boyfriend for the first time.

We used to worry about clearing the lenders criteria... or worse, the appraiser.  Well, now add one more to the trilogy... PMI carries a lot of power!

Be aware.

Posted by

 ALAN MAY, Realtor®   
Specializing in Evanston Real Estate and North Shore Real Estate

Jameson Sotheby's International Realty, 2934 Central Street, Evanston, IL 60201
Office: 847.869.7300      Cell: 847.924.3313      Email: Almay@aol.com

Evanston Real Estate & North Shore Real Estate
Licensed in Illinois

   

Comments(15)

Lora "Leah" Stern 914-772-4528
Coldwell Banker, 170 N Main Street, New City NY 10956 - New City, NY
Real Estate Salesperson

Alan, I love your analogy of the PMI guys review of our loan subject - "like a father of a teen-aged-daughter meeting her new leather-clad, tattooed & pierced, motorcycle-riding boyfriend for the first time".   Looks like there's one more thing to add to the pot of worries for that buyerbefore a deal is complete.

Jul 20, 2011 08:28 AM
Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

Another thing for buyers (and their agents) to consider.  Gone are the days of the rubber stamp, you got that right Alan!!

Jul 20, 2011 08:33 AM
Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

I'm just laughing... you mean there has been PMI over the past 4 years????   I sell mostly second/vaction homes and they have been requiring 20% down since 2007  If someone had less FHA and VA  has been their only choice and that was ONLY if it was their primary.

Jul 20, 2011 08:41 AM
Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
Home is where the hearth is.

Lora - that's a worried man, isn't it?

Carla - those were the days, my friend.

Tammy - an interesting niche, no?

Jul 20, 2011 09:20 AM
Ed Gillespie
WealthWise Mortgage Planning, a Division of American Pacific Mortgage Corporation NMLS #1850 - Folsom, CA

Yes, indeed, the PMI guidelines can be even tighter than the lenders.  And, heaven help you if the lender does not have delegated underwriting and has to send the file out to the MI company.  (I had a file last year where the MI underwriter pushed back several times wanting to know why the buyer was buying a home in a location that would require a 70 mile each way commute.  [Uh, this is California.  We drive a lot here.]  Loan amount was $90,000 and the borrower was solid.  Closing delayed two weeks.)  The good news in that, in the last couple of weeks I have been notified of MI guideline changes being relaxed a bit.

Jul 20, 2011 11:22 AM
Peter Pfann @ eXp Realty Pfanntastic Properties in Victoria, Since 1986.
eXp Realty, Victoria BC www.pfanntastic.com - Victoria, BC
Talk To or Text Peter 250-213-9490

Hi Alan,

It is sad, when there are these types of challenges preventing people to make a move...

I am not an advocate of most government institutions, but our federal mortgage laws and federal mortgage insurance system is providing so much more stability, consistency and confidence (and dramatically lower default issues) for all parties, that one would almost suggest something like that for the USA (like that is ever going to happen.....;0)

Jul 20, 2011 12:40 PM
Dr. Paula McDonald
Beam & Branch Realty - Granbury, TX
Granbury, TX 936-203-0279

Oh the insanity of it all.  We don't need any more road blocks in this business.

Jul 20, 2011 01:38 PM
Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
Home is where the hearth is.

Ed - you guys drive a lot in California?

Pfanns - I would totally understand if the appraisal hadn't appraised out.

Paula - this one was fun.

Jul 20, 2011 03:01 PM
Ed Gillespie
WealthWise Mortgage Planning, a Division of American Pacific Mortgage Corporation NMLS #1850 - Folsom, CA

Yes.  But the drivers are not nearly as crazy as the ones in Chicagoland!!!!

Jul 20, 2011 03:28 PM
Jason Sardi
Auto & Home & Life Insurance throughout North Carolina - Charlotte, NC
Your Agent for Life

Think of the very concept:  You are approved for the loan but something hinders you being approved for the PMI required when not putting 20% down on such purchase.  That was becoming an issue before I left the business. 

Strange days, indeed:)

Jul 20, 2011 04:45 PM
Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
Home is where the hearth is.

Ed - oh, I disagree... most of the drivers on the Kennedy aren't gun-tottin'.

Jason - and it actually makes sense... but since PMI is "required" if putting down less than 20%...

Jul 21, 2011 01:39 AM
John McCormack, CRS
Albuquerque Homes Realty - Albuquerque, NM
Honesty, Integrity, Results, Experienced. HIRE Me!

Buyers are finding a tough road to travel when applying for a loan these days.  Any more I spend as much time preparing them for what may be the most difficult part of their transaction.  You are right the PMI companies shelled out a lot of cash and they don't survive long doing that.

Jul 21, 2011 02:56 AM
Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
Home is where the hearth is.

John - money is out there, waiting to be "loaned"... but lenders do put them through the grinder these days.

Jul 21, 2011 03:30 AM
Deborah "Dee Dee" Garvin
C2 Financial - San Diego, CA
C2 Financial

Alan,  Your post is a reminder to me to try to remind my clients and agents that we are not really seeing anything new in the "La La Land" of finance as much as we are essentially coming home to roost.  Secondary sign off for private mortgage insurance was the "norm" until the late 90's.  In fact, very, very few lenders had delegated MI underwriting ability until around '96 or so.  I once had a file for a first time buyer that was totally approved by the lender; however, it took five MI companies until I could find an approval.  There's a story there......thanks for sparking a subject for a post.

Jul 21, 2011 04:34 AM
Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
Home is where the hearth is.

Deborah - but the nice thing is you went "shopping" for an MI company... you didn't just take "NO" for an answer.

Jul 21, 2011 06:00 AM