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WHOA!! Dodd Frank Act Set to Terminate Seller Financing

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Those elves in Washington are at it again.  The Clueless Duo, Barney "Circus Clown" Frank and Chris "I do not have to pay back loans" Dodd have snuck key provisions into their bill.  CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVE TODAY!

 

In an incredible show of effective bank/mortgage lender lobbying or government ignorance the Federal Reserve is considering rules that may end a seller's ability to finance their own property and sell on terms to a buyer!

 

The problem is that the Federal Reserve has proposed new rules from implementing the Dodd Frank Act. Those rules would effectively eliminate seller financing! If you believe that seller financing is important to this real estate market, we need you to let them know that you don't want these rules enacted. The comment is this Friday, July 22nd, 2011.

 

It is incredible that in an environment where mortgage financing is hard to get and the real estate market is hampered by problems many have getting loans, that the government is set to essentially outlaw seller financing.

 

My guess is that mortgage companies and banks are lobbying to prevent seller financing so they have the market all to themselves and can charge whatever interest rates they want and impose any terms they want. The numbers of creative financing deals such as lease-options, seller financing, options and other creative financing deals are increasing so sellers can get properties sold.  This is a natural outgrowth of difficulty in finding buyers who can get a conventional mortgage.

 

Sellers need to sell, buyers want to buy and in many cases the banks and mortgage companies stand in the way because they are so strict with lending criteria including high down payment requirements high credit score requirements.

 

There are many people who have blemished credit because of the economic downturn - even foreclosures and short sales but who are good qualified owners but are locked out of the housing market unless they can get non-traditional financing.

 

Our over-zealous government is now proposing that it completely control seller financing in this country and the rules are so convoluted (179 pages) that most sellers will be too scared to offer seller financing.  It is such a bad idea to eliminate a way to sell houses and get buyers financing at a time in our history when sellers need to sell and buyers want to buy and the residential real estate market has been hampered by financing issues to eliminate an alternative.

 

The problem is that the rules were made for traditional lenders to follow but the problem is that If these rules are passed without an exemption for seller financing, an individual who wants to sell their own home will be required to understand and comply with 169 pages of rules with draconian penalties for non-compliance that could bankrupt a seller.

 Paddy Deighan JD PhD http://www.homesavers.pro

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Paddy Deighan MBA JD PhD
http://www.medicalandspaconsulting.com - Vail, CO
Paddy Deighan J.D. Ph.D

I think that the global issue is being missed here: it is more government intrusion into our lives...they want to control real estate, banking, and healthcare ( our largest industries).  It wants to eliminate CHOICE and that was a hallmark of the pronciples of our founding fathers.

Jul 23, 2011 11:21 AM
Paddy Deighan MBA JD PhD
http://www.medicalandspaconsulting.com - Vail, CO
Paddy Deighan J.D. Ph.D

I also feel that government over reacts to situations...if an unintended result happens as a result of the actions of a few bad apples, that does not necessarily warrant intrusion into our lives

Jul 23, 2011 11:44 AM
Leslie G. Rojohn
MoonDancer Realty - Sylva, NC
GRI, ABR ~ MoonDancer Realty

AND ONE MORE TIME!!!!!!!  READ THE BILL AND READ NAR'S SUMMARY.  Seller finance is exempted with some simple yet important rules.  Once again here is NARS summary, and this is why they did not get bent out of shape over this.

"The DFA definition of mortgage originator exempts an individual (or an estate or trust) that provides mortgage financing for no more than 3 properties in any 12 month period from the requirements of Title XIV, but only if the financing meets certain rules:

1. The seller did not construct the home.

2. The loan is fully amortizing (no balloon mortgages allowed).

3. The seller determines in good faith and documents that the buyer has a reasonable ability to repay the loan.

4. The loan has a fixed rate or is adjustable after 5 or more years, subject to reasonable annual and lifetime caps.

5. The loan meets other criteria set by the Federal Reserve Board." 

These rules make perfect sense and are designed to protect buyers from the same kind of practices by individuals that the banks were doing when they did in this country.  Does anybody ever read stuff before they get all anti gov.

Jul 23, 2011 12:56 PM
Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

Leslie:  Of COURSE they don't read what the real information is from the source.  They are much too busy being anti-government... and cannot see anything else because of all that steam that is coming out of their ears.

And Paddy... if the conservatives are so anti-government intrusion... they need to continue that theme when it comes to social issues and women's health.  You talk about "CHOICE?"  If you want to talk about stopping government intervention... then the christian-taliban right needs to get out of people's bedrooms, quit taking away from women the control of their bodies... and quit refusing to acknowledge freedom of choice in marriage equality.

There are a lot of two-faced far-right conservative taliban out there.  What about anti-government intervention there ?

Obama was not my first choice... Hillary was.  But Obama, such as he is... is light years ahead of anyone the far right has to offer.  And, with that in mind... and with those as my probably choices... I will vote for President Obama again.  The lesser of two evils, perhaps.  But in this case... he is the Much Lesser evil. 

If only Bill Clinton could run again.  What a ticket...  Bill Clinton for President, and Debbie Wasserman Schultz for Vice President.

 

Jul 23, 2011 01:14 PM
Paddy Deighan MBA JD PhD
http://www.medicalandspaconsulting.com - Vail, CO
Paddy Deighan J.D. Ph.D

Karen...Bill Clintoin is largely responsible for the current crisis when he Amended teh Community Reinvestment Act and required lenders to issue sub prime loans. And BTW The Dodd-Frank Bill is tryuing to do the same thing again!

i am independent and believe that goivernment has gotten too big; that it is spending too much money and that it is intruding way too much nto our lives. I also believe that Obama has not done ONE thing that he promised: no transparency (it is worse than ever), GitMo is still open, we are still in Iraq an Afganistan, he increased the debt, he cost tax payers $278,000 per job that he thinks that stimulus provided, and  could go on for hours.  He has surrounded himself with other heophytes that simply so not know wnat they are doing.

 

Frankly, I beliee that we need a business person to run the country...someone outside of teh politcal process. And yes, I would have voted for Donald trump and I like Herman Cain.

Jul 23, 2011 01:33 PM
Paddy Deighan MBA JD PhD
http://www.medicalandspaconsulting.com - Vail, CO
Paddy Deighan J.D. Ph.D

Leslie @91..I read the abstract of the bill and it is far more convoluded than you suggest.  For example, why does the Federal Reserve need to be involoved in any way with a private transaction?? I do not see the need for ANY regulation in this area.It has not been a problem.

 

We are rapidly becoming the former Soviet Union....I travel to Russia frequently and they are becoming more capitalistic and we are becoming mor Socialist. Ask anyone from a socialist country and they will tell you that we are going down a bad path.

 

I recentyl read in a Ukrainian newspapaer that as Russians, Pols, Czechs, and Ukrainains emigrate to the USA, they become conservative. The reason stated is frequently along the lines of "we have been where you are going". Very telling

Jul 23, 2011 01:38 PM
Paddy Deighan MBA JD PhD
http://www.medicalandspaconsulting.com - Vail, CO
Paddy Deighan J.D. Ph.D

great post Jon....and I also want to mention that the current admiinistration (Eric Holder) is suing banks and reuiring that they issue more sub prime loans to minorities.  He is using the threat of charging them with anti-discriminatory policies if they do not.  Of course this is stupid to begin with but clearly unfair to non miorities too.

Jul 23, 2011 01:42 PM
Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

Paddy, unfortunately, in my opinion, the fact that you would have voted for Donald Trump says a lot about you.  Of all the folks the Republicans have currently in the mix, the only one I would consider voting for is Jon Huntsman.  Unfortunately, if he gets elected... we get Cantor, both the Pauls, Bachmann, Boehner, Walker up in Wisconsin, McConnell, and the rest.

I wish we could get take the 15% from the far right, the 7% from the far left, and with the other 78%... create some sort of centrist part.  If Huntsman ran as the Centrist candidate, I could see myself voting for him then, but not as a Republican.

Re: Jon's comment.  Those numbers are miniscule.  Peanuts... compared to the millions and millions that are funneled into the Republican Party by many of those same entities.  What are the figures from the Koch brothers ?  Post those, why don't you.

And Paddy... it is Jon's comment, not Jon's post.  You wrote the post... remember ?  LOL.

Jul 23, 2011 01:43 PM
Jirius Isaac
Isaac Real Estate &TriStar Mortgage - Kenmore, WA
Real Estate & loans in Kenmore, WA

Right when you think they could not make things any worse for the real estate market & the economy, they do something again to make it worse.  It is unbeleivable! As soon as the lender paid option become the rule for mortgage brokers, the banks lowered their fees & we no longer can compete.  Of course, as soon as they have put enough of the brokers out of business, they will raise fees and rates again.  Now they want to stop seller financing as well.  Maybe they should just eliminate all loans except for th big banks directly, kill the economy & get it over with once & for all.

Jul 23, 2011 01:57 PM
Paddy Deighan MBA JD PhD
http://www.medicalandspaconsulting.com - Vail, CO
Paddy Deighan J.D. Ph.D

karen, I agree 100% that the government should stay out of the our personal lives too.  As I stated, I am an independent and largely do not agree with either party. I do feel that governmment has gotten too large and is intruding upon our freedoms. I am fiscally conservative..we cannot continue to print money and spend money that we do not have; we cannot keep raising taxes!

 

A telling statistic: if we paid down our debt with current revenues and did not spend another dime of money, it would take 386 years to pay of the debt @ $100 MILLION per day! THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY SIX YEARS - NOT including interest!!!

Jul 23, 2011 02:02 PM
Paul Francis
Francis Group Real Estate - Las Vegas, NV
Las Vegas Real Estate Agent - Summerlin Homes

Well stated in comment #100 Paddy.

Once again.. the Federal Government is intruding into something they have no business being involved in. Led by somebody that is completely clueless to begin with... Barney Frank has openly stated he wants the Federal Government involved in every aspect of Real Estate.

blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/09/08/hud-secretary-barney-frank/

"But Frank tells Weisberg that he isn’t planning to leave Congress in the near-term. “I want at least two years with President Obama and a solidly Democratic Senate so that we can get the federal government back in the housing business,” he says."

The true intention of all of this regulation is not about Consumer Protection... It's all about control... bottom line.

From the NAR summary of the Bill:

5. The loan meets other criteria set by the Federal Reserve Board."

The Federal Reserve is not even a Government Agency --- It's the Godfather of the Big Banksters who has one Main Intention --- making money for the uber wealthy Banksters by creating Debt by lending money that does not even exist.

For the past 3 years, our Representatives in D.C. have been doing everything but what they should have been doing... and now we have a looming financial crisis with no sustainable solution in sight that will make the crisis of 2008 seem like a hiccup.

It's absolutely Repulsive.

 

 

Jul 24, 2011 04:42 AM
Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

It just continues to blow my mind that there are so many people who have commented here as if they know what they are talking about... when all they are doing is regurgitating back what they heard some doofus spew.  I mean... talk about "clueless."  What I see here... for the most part... is very simply... scary.

Jul 24, 2011 06:51 AM
Gene Riemenschneider
Home Point Real Estate - Brentwood, CA
Turning Houses into Homes

So this is intentional - not just one of those unintended consquences of some other dumb move then overly enforced by some one too stupid to get an honeest job?

Jul 24, 2011 10:38 AM
Bob & Leilani Souza
Souza Realty 916.408.5500 - Roseville, CA
Greater Sacramento Area Homes, Land & Investments

Paddy, I really hope this doesn't happen...seller financing is really what would help move a lot of real estate transactions nowadays! I just re-blogged this post. :)

Leilani

Jul 24, 2011 04:46 PM
Paddy Deighan MBA JD PhD
http://www.medicalandspaconsulting.com - Vail, CO
Paddy Deighan J.D. Ph.D

Karen an overwhelming majority of responses disagree with you and we are all entitled to our opinions. Our opinions are rarely based upn a clear understanding of the TRUE facts behind everything that goes on in Washington becasue very few (including me) know the truth. 

Of course, Obama promised tranparency and his administration has raised a new level of back door deals and behind the scenes shenanagins.  Who can ever forget Delusional Nancy Pelosi's comment about Obamination Care "if you want to know what is in it, you have to pass the bill first".

I also am at a loss to understand why those of you to the left resort to nasty attacks and avoid the issues that are inconsistent with your beliefs.

Our country is in dire economic straits and if they keep spending money, you will not have any clients that can afford a home. The history of the world is full of examples of failed Socialism. Three Eurpopean nations have defaulted on their debt and all three have blamed Socialism (Ireland, Greece, Portugal). Two more will default within weeks (Spain and Italy). They too  blame Socialism and corruption. 

Japan tried to spend its way out of depression and it has been mired in a depression for a decade and a half. The Nikkei is not even back to 1995 levels. This will happen here too.

My opinion of Barney Franks is that he is not only a circus clown, but a colassol bought and paid for jackass. He is illiterate, stupid, mindless and corrupt. As one of the other posts indicated, his 20 highest campaign contributors were LENDING institutions.

DO YOU THINK HE GIVES FECAL EXCREMENT ABOUT WHAT YOU OR I WANT??

I accept your pathetic name calling as a sign that as with all liberals, your facts are questionbable and you have to use name calling because you have no substantive material or fact. Follow Obama into the toilet if you want to and continue to drink the punch...I am going down kicking and screaming....

Jul 24, 2011 11:44 PM
Dan Pinson
International Realty Partners - Phoenix, AZ
Broker,ABR,GRI,RSPS,SFR,TRC

Well this thread got interesting! Given my choice, I would go back to the land patent days when you ACTUALLY, REALLY owned your land, including most or all of your mineral, air, and water rights. All we do now is essentially own/rent our surface rights anyway. Further restrictions on property rights are just another nail in the coffin of property ownership. Besides about a third or so of property is owned free and clear, so why should the government have ANY say in what two consenting adults agree to? As to mortgaged properties, There are some challenges with due on sale/acceleration clauses and the like, but so what? That's the original borrower's problem, not the new buyer's problem (it would only be the new buyer's problem if there was fraud involved).

Karen I object to you calling everyone clueless. You repudiate the facts and call out the Koch Brothers, but provide no facts of your own. So let's compare the Koch's with a major Democratic supporter, George Soros. Here's the breakdown of their individual donations:

Individual donations to federal candidates, parties and political action committees (1989 to 2010)
Koch Brothers: $2.58 million (83% to Republicans)
George Soros: $1.74 million

Individual donations to 527 organizations (2001 to 2010)
George Soros: $32.5 million
Koch Brothers: $1.5 million
 
Organizational donations are harder to track than Individual donations, so I didn't include them here. I think you'll see by the numbers that there's an exobitant amount of lobbying going on by both sides. But in this case, George Soros is outspending everyone else in individual donations by a wide margin. And who does he support? Democrats like Barney Frank.
Jul 25, 2011 09:19 AM
Todd Clark - Retired
eXp Realty LLC - Tigard, OR
Principle Broker Oregon

The government once again taking away the free market place away from Americans. As Americans we should be voting these idiots out of office. At least in our state, they are taking themselves out of office.




Jul 28, 2011 07:42 PM
Jana Holmstrup
Jana Holmstrup - CCO - Kings Mortgage Services, Inc. - Visalia, CA

Thank you so much for bringing this to our attention!  As much as I've read about DFA, I never noticed this.  I was on vacation when the post came out and - not wanting to be accused as believing everything I hear - waited till I had a chance to review.  Okay, so I haven't read all 170+ pages yet, but even NAR's synopsis make me cringe!

1. The seller did not construct the home.  So if I built my house 40 years ago I can’t finance the sale now?  How will they regulate who built the home?

2. The loan is fully amortizing (no balloon mortgages allowed).  A 30/15 is not allowed?  Why not?

3. The seller determines in good faith and documents that the buyer has a reasonable ability to repay the loan.  How does a Seller determine this?  Are they held to 28/36 DTI?  Do they need to receive training on how to calculate DTI?  Must they fully document with credit report, paystubs, tax returns, 4506 tax transcripts, etc. ?  How long must they retain evidence of this ‘ability?  3 years… 30 years…?  Where do they retain this information? In their home? (Which, by the way, is all my personal information)  Will they now be subject to the Safeguards Act as well?

4. The loan has a fixed rate or is adjustable after 5 or more years, subject to reasonable annual and lifetime caps.  Why?

5. The loan meets other criteria set by the Federal Reserve Board.  Meaning Credit Score Disclosures, Adverse Action Notices, and the dreaded Reg Z Truth-in-Lending??????

As a Compliance Officer I understand how difficult it is to keep up with Lending Regulations - how in the heck is a mere individual supposed to keep up with this?  And - as someone asked - whose job will it be to eductate the Seller?!!  The Realtor?  Escrow?

This is beyond ludicrous stupid.  I don't know how anyone could support this and I thank you for bringing it to the attention of all.

Jana

Aug 20, 2011 07:15 PM
Greg Taylor
Greg Taylor and Associates, PLLC - Murray, KY
Murray Kentucky, Real Estate Attorney and Investor

This is going to really hurt investors, yet again, at a time when Obama is allegedly trying to reduce government regulation of businesses. "Allegedly" being the key word.

Sep 08, 2011 12:11 AM
Kathy Fuhriman
Bear River Valley Realty - Tremonton, UT
Just saw more news about this come across the news wire this month. Paddy do you have any more information about where this is headed now in 2013? This was the news feed that I got. http://www.ksefocus.com/billdatabase/clientfiles/172/4/1720.pdf
Feb 18, 2013 12:49 AM