CRITERIA Needed for ALL Loan Originators to quote you a rate...

By
Mortgage and Lending with Hancock Mtg Partners Corportate NMLS#229844

The lending environment has changed. I'm sure we've all heard this on the radio and TV for years now... right?

We also know that the Government wants to make "mortgage rates" a commodity and make it EASY to shop for. But the problem arises when someone calls up and says "whats your rate?" and truly expects to get an instant answer back.  I certainly wish I could answer that question with a simple "we're at 4.25% today" or "3.5% for a 15 yr"... but its not that simple.

In general I (and everyone else you talk to) needs to get MOST of this list to give you an ACCURATE quote for you and your situation:

  1. Loan Amount
  2. LTV (loan to value)
  3. CLTV (combined loan to value)
  4. Credit Score (lower of all borrowers middle score is used)
  5. Credit History
  6. Escrow Preference
  7. Closing Date
  8. Loan Type (Conventional, FHA, VA, RD, HomePath, Rehab)
  9. Type of Mortgage Insurance (monthly, cash, split, financed or lender paid)
  10. Property Type (single family, townhome, condo, 1-4 family)
  11. Occupancy Type (primary, secondary or non-owner occupied)
  12. Available Assets for down-payment
  13. Available Assets for “reserves"
  14. Asset Seasoning
  15. Co-borrowers
  16. Housing Ratio
  17. Total Debt Ratio
  18. Improvements Needed
  19. Employment Type (W2, Contract or self-employed)
  20. Employment History
  21. Documentation Available
  22. Relocation
  23. Seller Contributions
  24. Gifts (equity or for down payment or reserves)
  25. Cash-out

This is a long list and not all items are needed depending on the type of transaction (purchase vs refinance).  For refinance transactions the HARDEST question to answer is LTV as its difficult to guess what someone's home may appraise for in todays erratic market.

The BOTTOM LINE is: if you want to know what our RATES are... we'll need to know a HANDFUL of information about YOU, Your Situation and what you're looking to do before our rate quote should ever be "set in stone".

IN FACT... if you really want help in figuring out who to do your loan: go ahead and ask "what's your rate?". If you get a really quick answer... that's the guy to STAY AWAY FROM.

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Steven Brand - NMLS#261849  - Hancock Mortgage  - 612.386.5306

Branch Manager / Strategic Mortgage Consultant  & VA Expert

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Comments (18)

Steven Cook
No Longer Processing Mortgages. - Tacoma, WA

Steve -  Your comment at the end is the most important item on your blog.  In addition, if someone gives you a rate, without giving you the corresponding APR (which would be difficult without many of the items on your list) - RUN from them.

Sep 08, 2011 06:30 AM
Jon Quist
REALTY EXECUTIVES ARIZONA TERRITORY - Tucson, AZ
Tucson's BUYERS ONLY Realtor since 1996

I actually heard recently that the current list to give out a REAL quote now has 26 items on the list. Yikes.

Sep 09, 2011 06:41 AM
Donne Knudsen
Los Angeles & Ventura Counties in CA - Simi Valley, CA
CalState Realty Services

"If you get a really quick answer... that's the guy to STAY AWAY FROM."

ROTFL

I SECOND THAT!!! 

Sep 09, 2011 06:52 AM
Steven Brand
Hancock Mtg Partners - Stillwater, MN
NMLS# 261849

STEVEN     I should've just put that ONE line as the entire blog without the list huh? 

JON          love to hear what the 26th is...

DONNE     Keep on Keepin' on.

 

Sep 09, 2011 07:02 AM
Charles Dailey
iLoan - NMLS ID#4474 - Saint Paul, MN

Hey Steve, . . . what's your rate today?  Hurry up now and just answer because I gotta call this totally legit company that sent me an e-mail toady for a cupon to redeem a 1.75% 30 year fixed.  If I'm lucky, they'll sell my information to 9 other tool bags and I'll end up getting 1%.  God I'm smart!  LOL!  Love the post man!!!

Sep 09, 2011 07:29 AM
Steven Brand
Hancock Mtg Partners - Stillwater, MN
NMLS# 261849

CHARLES     thats the funniest of all.   Shoppers going to ONLINE companies and getting their info SOLD repeatedly to save $10 in closing costs.

Sep 09, 2011 07:48 AM
Evelyn Kennedy
Alain Pinel Realtors - Alameda, CA
Alameda, Real Estate, Alameda, CA

Steven:  Buyers need to understand that because of the market crash quoting a loan rate is more complicated now.

Sep 09, 2011 07:50 AM
Ed Gillespie
WealthWise Mortgage Planning, a Division of American Pacific Mortgage Corporation NMLS #1850 - Folsom, CA

Excellent post Steven!  Dontcha just love that question 'what's your rate"? My answer is "I have lots of rates, what rate are you looking for"? Sometimes for fun I'll show them a rate sheet and I'll ask them to pick a rate, then I'll say, "ok then, let's see how much that's gonna cost".  I'll then ask for information like you listed. It's tough having to retrain consumers on what it really takes to get a viable qoute when they've been hypnotized by silly radio ads and other advertising media by lazy and generally unprofessional originators who won't take the time to do it right.  Keep up the good work!

Sep 09, 2011 08:22 AM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi
NMLS #216987, IL Lic. 031.0006220, WI Licensed. APMC NMLS #175656 - New Lenox, IL
708.921.6331 - 40+ yrs experience

Steven:  Jon in Comment #2 is pretty accurate in his assessment of question tally for current pre-qualification.  Last time I actually kept track, the number of questions I had asked was 27 ... and I'm not sure I was done with the conversation!  It's no wonder people feel barraged during the process.  It CAN be a bit overwhelming.  Your list definitely will help prepare them for what is to come.  Great idea .. and great post ...

Hope business is good in your neck of the woods ...

Gene

Sep 09, 2011 08:22 AM
Steven Brand
Hancock Mtg Partners - Stillwater, MN
NMLS# 261849

EVELYN        Dave Mathews said it best:  CRASH INTO ME

ED               when Option Arms and Subprime Loans were around I'd say "I've recently closed loans from 1.95% all the way up to 12%... is there a rate you're looking for?"

GENE           this list is just the surface of questions we ask to take a Complete Application at our iLoan Branch.  These are just the first 25 or so to narrow in the RATE!!   Funny huh!

Sep 09, 2011 08:52 AM
Christine Donovan
Donovan Blatt Realty - Costa Mesa, CA
Broker/Attorney 714-319-9751 DRE01267479 - Costa M

Steven -

"If you get a really quick answer... that's the guy to STAY AWAY FROM."

 

I think that's such a perfect response and so true.  It's hard impossible to give an accurate answer to the question without information.

Sep 09, 2011 01:06 PM
Rodney Mason
Guaranteed Rate NMLS# 2611 - Atlanta, GA
VP of Mortgage Lending - AL, FL, GA, SC, & TN

All so true.  I had one the other day who didn't want to answer most of the above.  When I told her I couldn't help her without it, she stated that she had already spoken to someone who told her the rate without all of the questions.  I wished her luck because she is going to need it dealing with her current loan officer. 

Sep 09, 2011 02:24 PM
Beth Paterson
Reverse Mortgages SIDAC, LLC, NMLS #1790592 - Saint Paul, MN
CRMP, NMLS #342859

It's amazing to me that people hear a rate advertised and think that they are going to qualify even with bad credit, low income, etc. They don't realize what is needed to qualify for that low rate.

Sometimes all you can do is give the advice to stay away from the one who gives an immediate answer and then wish them luck if that's who they are going to do their loan - they'll needed it.

 

Sep 09, 2011 05:37 PM
Shay Campbell
Universal American Mortgage Company - Raleigh, NC
Raleigh, NC

Steven, licensed and experienced loan officer like yourself, knows you cann't quote rates from the hip. As you know the lowest rate is not always the lowest payment.  You might want to add a number 26: Lender paid or borrower paid mortgage insurance.

Sep 09, 2011 10:46 PM
Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

Great post Steven , I think we have gone from under regulation to over regulation. I think it will scare and confuse more potential buyers who are trying to shop for a rate and do not want to give personal information to every company just to get a quote. I think it will cause buyers to complete more research on companies  before giving any info/ Referrals from Realtors will be that much more important as i can tell them who has the best service or who i would not use myself .  What is going to happen to all these ads where companies post a rate in the Sunday paper?

Sep 10, 2011 12:59 AM
Paul McFadden
Responsive Pest Control - Seattle, WA
Pest Control, Seattle, WA.

Steven: Thanks for the list. What you say is so true. If we're quoting a rate before getting everything we're hedging like an attorney and saying things like O.A.C., assuming everything lines up, etc., etc. We really are still shooting in the dark even if we do have as much as we need. No one knows what the value is going to be; that's probably the biggest wild card these days. Thanks for the post!

 

 

Sep 10, 2011 02:33 AM
Ed Gillespie
WealthWise Mortgage Planning, a Division of American Pacific Mortgage Corporation NMLS #1850 - Folsom, CA

I hope some consumers read this post Steven!  Most probably don't even consider that the person giving them a quote might not even be licensed in the first place.  Ideally consumers should find someone who is competent and ethical (someone they trust) to work with more than finding the lowest interest rate quote.

Dec 16, 2013 05:19 AM
Steven Brand
Hancock Mtg Partners - Stillwater, MN
NMLS# 261849

Thanks Ed.  The whole licensing thing is whole 'nuther soapbox rant.

Dec 16, 2013 05:46 AM

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