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If Amazon.com Sold Homes

By
Real Estate Broker/Owner with New Paradigm Partners LLC EB #1326335

QuestionsMary & I have a new listing, and as we were talking about how we were going to market it, we were struck once again with how little we really know about who the potential buyers for this home are. Sure, we can make a few assumptions: based on the price of the home, we can guess at their socio-economic status; based on its size, we might know something about their family; and we can take a stab at their motivation, since they are buying in “interesting times” for our market.

But for our purposes, we’d like “who” to have a much more specific meaning, in the sense of:

  • What are the names of these potential buyers?
  • Where do they live?
  • What is the most effective way to communicate with them?

If we knew these basic things, our marketing could approach the oft-discussed goal of targeting with a rifle instead of a shotgun. We’d be much better at selling our listings.

Today, I got an e-mail from Amazon.com, containing the usual suggestions about books I might be interested in. And as usual they were right – several were relevant to my interests and I didn’t already own them. Amazon does this often, and they’re very good at it. And it’s no secret how they do it – they pay attention, they analyze their data, and they communicate effectively. They know what I want, they save me the trouble of searching for it, and they offer it to me.

And I thought how excellent we would be at our profession if we were like Amazon – and I wondered what it would take for the real estate industry to develop the same kind of capability and why we aren’t doing it.

Paying Attention (Data):

DataAs an industry, we have NAR’s annual survey, which contains a lot of very useful information about home buyers. But it’s a national survey, and we all know that real estate is a local phenomenon. We need to understand how our local market works – where our home buyers are coming from. It turns out that we’re sitting on a ton of data, in the form of our transaction records and files. And this could easily be supplemented by external sources such as public records and private databases. Information isn’t the problem.

Analysis:

The technology to manipulate large amounts of data to identify trends is widely available, as is the capability to aggregate raw data to respond to privacy protection issues. In theory and practice, it would not be difficult to use available data to characterize our local markets and answer questions such as:

  • AnalysisAre buyers of new 2-story homes local or relocating?
  • What are Gen X & Y buyers purchasing locally?
  • Are buyers actually using QR codes here?
  • Is age still a major factor in identifying buyers of ranch-style homes?
  • Etc. etc.

With the kind of characterization possible, we could have a pretty decent idea of what the typical buyer types were for any new listing in our market area. Analysis isn’t likely to be the problem then, either.

Effective Use (Marketing):

TargetingWe’re all marketers – it’s what we do, and the successful among us not only do it really well – they innovate. This isn’t going to be the bottleneck – if we get a fairly specific and detailed description of the potential buyer for one of our listings, we’ll find an effective way to find them and present an interesting opportunity to them.

(And, on the other side, can you imagine a listing presentation where you can make a substantiated claim that you can identify specific potential buyers for the home?)


So, why aren’t we already doing this?

I believe the main reason we’ve fallen behind the technology curve on this has to do with the structure of our industry. The data, the technology and the ability to put the result to good use are all there. But it would take a big effort and a major investment to put them all together, and I think that the will to do so is lacking.

Most of us are independent contractors of some sort, and we walk out the door every day with a substantial percentage of the industry’s earnings in our individual pockets. Thus, for the large real estate companies – the ones with the capability to make the necessary investment – the profit motive is weak. And whatever the benefits, and no matter how they might be shared, they wouldn’t be immediately available – doing something like this would take time and effort, and, in today’s market environment, there doesn’t seem to be much long-term thinking going on.

But I’d bet that something like this is going to show up someday, maybe even soon. It’s probably going to come from a source external to our industry – maybe a couple of data geeks in a garage somewhere. It’s going to be revolutionary, and if the source is external, it may be disruptive. It might just wind up challenging us more than enhancing us, because we didn’t do it ourselves, and ceded the benefits and control of it to others. Maybe it’s time to start giving this some thought.

Posted by
Mary & Dick

Mary & Dick Greenberg
New Paradigm Partners LLC
2601 S. Lemay Ave. #41
Fort Collins, CO 80525
970-689-4663
www.maryanddick.com

 

Data Source: IRES MLS

Comments(45)

Anonymous
Peter Michelbach

Dick -- you got me wired...will have to do some brainstorming with 'out of the box' ideas for different models of targeting, more buyer oriented needs...thanks. Peter Michelbach (9 Million Dollar Club) David Grace R/E Perth, W.A.

Sep 26, 2011 02:26 AM
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Mark Welsh
Kirkland, WA

I too think you should have developed this already through a company.  My company even does recommended listings that the client has not seen, then you can send it in a few clicks.  Secondly, facebook has a great tool for advertising exactly as you had discussed.  you really do need to keep up on the technology.

Sep 26, 2011 02:29 AM
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Dick, I think the demographics are out there without violating Fair Housing. Putting it together would be a huge task.

Sep 26, 2011 02:52 AM
Ron Marshall
Marshall Enterprises - Saint Michael, MN
Birdhouse Builder Extraordinaire

Dick, Google, Amazon, Facebook....one of them will come out of the pack soon and try to put individual realtors and brokers out on the street.  Sad.

Sep 26, 2011 03:12 AM
Kate Akerly
Kaminsky Group - Manhattan Beach, CA
Manhattan Beach Residential Sales

You would have to control the platform on which purchasers are searching (e.g. Trulia or StreetEasy in NYC). If you owned the platform, the data would be available to you.  Agents can't do this because they don't have the platform.  If your own website had enough traffic you could do it with the dataset there but the key to Amazon is that they have a huge market share to justify the effort.  

Sep 26, 2011 03:30 AM
The Derrick Team - Indy Metro Realtors
Carpenter Realtors - Avon, IN
Your Pet Friendly Realtors

Since buyers continue to buy homes they didn't even desire when we first started searching, not sure how accurate data from anywhere would be. Would be nice to have this data though...

Sep 26, 2011 03:39 AM
Dick Greenberg
New Paradigm Partners LLC - Fort Collins, CO
Northern Colorado Residential Real Estate

Hi Everyone -

There is a bit of confusion about what I meant - which is not to say that your comments aren't great and full of food for thought. But I'm not talking about mining something like MLS or Trulia or an IDX site to see what buyers are looking at.

What I'd like to see developed is a statistical predictive model, based on actual home sales data correlated with other sources, that tells me in specific detail what types of buyers are buying what types of homes. Thus, if I had listed a 5 bedroom ranch with a finished basement in Loveland, CO, the output would say something like: 87% of buyers for that type of home in that region live within 15 miles of the home they bought; 47% were empty nesters, 35% had 2+ children; 67% were 2 wage earner households and 12% were retired; 76% moved from a home they had lived in 7+ years, etc. etc. And I want that data locally, not nationally.

That kind of data would let me identify a pool of prospective buyers for whom I could get names, addresses and probably e-mail addresses. Then I could market to that group.

Everything is available for such an effort, short of someone actually willing to invest the time and money in doing it.

Sep 26, 2011 03:52 AM
Lori Bonicelli
Bonicelli Design - Marietta, GA

Dick, excellent thoughts!!  

I am not a realtor, but one of the many who really want to get out of the "home ownership nighmare".    I am 35, married, 2 school age children our household income is between $75K-$130K (purposly being kinda vague) We have made a total 180 in the type of lifestyle and home we will want to live in next.  When talking to all of my friends who are very similar to me, most want the same thing.  

The mortgage payments should not exceed $1200/mo on a 15year mortgage.  Why??  because that is the max anyone of us is going to live in that house!  We need that place paid off BEFORE we have to pay for our kids college!  We want very well built homes, energy effecient, neutral architecture, no maintenance flooring (hardwoods,tile), smart design with huge kitchens/central gathering area, office for whole family to do work & homework, small bedrooms w/built-ins instead of closets eliminating furniture except a bed and occasional chair, seamless easy to clean/spray down bathrooms, no maintenance yards  that have enough sun if you want to grown your own food. We are sick of working our butts off to pay for the exorbant energy costs, maintenance, upkeep, etc...  on these rediculously large homes!

So YES the house will need to be smaller.  YES it will not be 3 stories, 4 baths, huge master suites w/sitting rooms, living rooms, dinings rooms, family rooms, office and then yeah you also have a basement media room...  that is just crazy!!  We need high quality affordable homes in safe areas. Unfortunatlly if you want to live in an economical home you usually are stuck in a high crime area. :(  Please prove me wrong!  I WANT to live in those 50's ranches again!

Sep 26, 2011 04:01 AM
Kimo Jarrett
Cyber Properties - Huntington Beach, CA
Pro Lifestyle Solutions

Analytics is easy, securing the data is not, yet when you compare the data available to Amazon to your local MLS, the economy of scale isn't affordable to its members. Finally, most agents wouldn't utilize the information anyway, just my opinion.

Sep 26, 2011 04:44 AM
Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

Well, I think if we had a database of what people were looking at on all the real estate sites, we may be able to come up with such predictions.

Sep 26, 2011 06:04 AM
Edward Perez
Sothbey's International Realty - Hoboken, NJ

Hi Dick,

Nice article and ideas.

That kind of data would be useful if it were easily available and affordable.

My thoughts are that in a reasonable active local market, an active agent should know where their buyers are coming from and what their basic demographics are simply by their personal interactions and those of their colleagues.

It does require one to be aware of this and to ask the question "whom am I speaking to".  This is dependent on several factors such as whether they're buying, selling, renting or investing, the size and style of the property, location, amenities etc....

I keep a paragraph of my typical Hoboken condo buyer profile and I include what their needs, wants,  fears and desires are.  It's a tool I picked up from Michael Russer, aka, MR Internet.

Whenever I design any marketing piece, I make try to make sure that I'm "speaking" to the right person.

Thanks again for sharing your thoughts!

 

 

Sep 26, 2011 06:28 AM
Bob Miller
Keller Williams Cornerstone Realty - Ocala, FL
The Ocala Dream Team

Dick, what a well written post!  And colorful to boot!

Sep 26, 2011 09:40 AM
Deb McNeill
Flying M Team Small World Realty Fort Worth, Tx - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

Very thought provoking post. I have a couple of internet geek friends who've already done some back end work in RE. Maybe I'll put a bug in their ear about what you (and I) would like to have.

 

Sep 26, 2011 09:53 AM
The Real Estate Professionals
Real Estate Professionals - Salt Lake City, UT

I don't know if you're familiar with Seth Godin, but he wrote a book that explains the power of permission advertising. If you can find out who your target market is you can advertise to them in the right places and have a better chance of advertising to someone who will actually buy. You could start gathering this information about your customers with a good website and database. But I respect how hard it is to complete this kind of research, but I'm sure it will pay off as you hit your market with a rifle instead of a shotgun as you expressed earlier.

Sep 26, 2011 09:54 AM
Bill Reddington
Re/max By The Sea - Destin, FL
Destin Florida Real Estate

Years ago Dunn and Bradstreet had that kind of info available in order to target market. I think you have to market to the internet and let it do its work. Pick whatever your poison might be and go for it,

Sep 26, 2011 02:53 PM
Mike Henderson
Your complete source for buying HUD homes - Littleton, CO
HUD Home Hub - 303-949-5848

The closest thing that I have seen is those companies say they can target who the most likely sellers are in a limited geographic area.

Sep 26, 2011 06:22 PM
Dave Roberts
Healdsburg Sotheby's International Realty - Healdsburg, CA

Great post well deserving of the feature status. None of us have Amazon volume, but all of us have data in our own offices. We discuss "buyer profile" at all our meetings and make an effort to understand if new buyers are local, regional, or national. We try to categorize them by generation, profession, and interests. There's no reason not to have your own early form of an analytical approach to your buyers. 

Sep 27, 2011 04:32 AM
Kathy Sheehan
Bay Equity, LLC 770-634-4021 - Atlanta, GA
Senior Loan Officer

Very well written, thought provoking blog post.  I have enjoyed all of the comments made.

Sep 28, 2011 01:26 AM
Linda Fidgeon
Berkshire Hathaway Homeservices Page Realty - Wrentham, MA
Make your next move your best move!

I'm afraid I don't see the connection. Amazon is marketing to YOU based on previous purchases, so they know  something about you. This isn''t true when sellinfa listing. You are marketin to people you have no prior experience with. You can make some assumptions about the buyer  based on the specs of the home. But you can't make any assumptions specific to the buyer. I always try to write a prifile of the most likely buyer of each listing, but beyond that I think the best idea is to try to appeal to the widest possible aqudience.

Sep 29, 2011 08:05 AM
Larry Atkins
State Wide Realty Co. - Farmville, VA
Veteran Owned & Operated

What a wonderful topic! I have often thought the same thing. I have often wondered that Realtor.com hasn't come up with something like this. But until then, I use my email newsletter to do something similar. Subscribers are able to choose specific categories homes, land, farm and such. Not perfect but helps me narrow my target a bit. Then I am able to compile new listings or "feature" properties that I have in those categories to send them.

Sep 29, 2011 09:45 AM