Why I Never Use Facebook, MySpace or Twitter ....Never Have ....Never Will...Ever !

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Facebook is a dangerously out-of-control social networking environment full of voyeurs, cretins and lurkers looking for indecent relations. It includes many less-than-savvy commerce-concerned users trying to get rankings in Bing, Google or other search engines through the application of fast meta tag recognition, which by any other name is a short cut and lazy dogs way out of some well-defined hard work and effort. I'd absolutely, positively recommend that anyone with common sense avoid some social networks like the plague. A Facebook icon on any page is recognition that there's the potential for another schmoe to lurk in the house. I want the "F" icon, Floogle, Schmoogle, Google, or any other blog or social networking icon that I don't subscribe to off my page. When I see that "F" icon on a blog page it looks like an "F" on an exam paper.

Isn't that the grade that the Harvard student who started it got from his peers ?

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Rainmaker
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Kasey & John Boles
Jon Gosche Real Estate, LLC - BoiseMeridianRealEstate.com - Boise, ID
Boise & Meridian, ID Ada/Canyon/Gem/Boise Counties

#34 haha!  That's what I was thinking, I could barely tell what David's opinion was! -Kasey

Oct 04, 2011 06:45 PM #64
Rainmaker
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Glenn Ritchie
First Team Real Estate - Fullerton, CA
Realtor - The OC.

I can't believe this post is getting all this attention...yet I saw it, I get now.....David isn't into FB, so what. 

Oct 04, 2011 06:56 PM #65
Rainmaker
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David Saks
(retired) - Memphis, TN

Cool, Mark and Tim. Which side of the family frequents Facebook ? You'll know which side of your family the smarts come from.

Oct 04, 2011 06:57 PM #66
Rainmaker
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David Saks
(retired) - Memphis, TN

That guy from Boise is such a riot...hardeeharhar.

Those social networking icons attach themsleves to your blog pages like lice on a dog.

Oct 04, 2011 07:02 PM #67
Rainmaker
1,571,116
David Saks
(retired) - Memphis, TN

That's right, Glenn. I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it people like me ! Did you decide after you became frustrated with competing in the science fair to become a real estate agent, Glenn ?

Oct 04, 2011 07:07 PM #68
Rainer
162,198
David Farrell
David V. Farrell Co. - Garden City, NY
Licensed NY State Real Estate Broker

David - I love the post.  People do not realize that by joining FB and the others they are literally giving away a coujple of hundred dollars to the site owner, who is a weasel (in my opinion) who appears to have been given this programming assigment by two other slick Harvard guys.  He said he was doing it, then he said he didn't have the time, then he launched his own site.  That's my understanding.  However, if they say the site is worth $100b, and it has 800m members, each one is worth about $125.  That's just the tip of the iceberg.  The also provide the IRS/Federal Gov't/private investigators/FBI/CIA/the world, complete insight into your life. 

There is an expression that say you be defined by who you keep as friends.  In this case, it is so true.  In 10 minutes, any investigator can find your friends, even if you don't ever post.  Thereafter, they can basically find out everything about you either by combining your posts and theirs, or by intervewing friends.  It's sick.  However, Americans have always been willing to give up their rights to privacy for nothing.

Beyond that, Facebook is simply AOL rehashed for those who forgot about it or were to young to remember the first popular IM device or 'You've Got Mail'.  It's crap.  To look on there and see people I thought were intelligent involved in games of 'mafia wars'', 'farmville' or other garbage - it's ridiculous.

Any business that can be had on Facebook should be able to be had elsewhere.  My children have been forbidden from having accounts (and I'm pretty lenient as a dad), but they have thanked me for it.  They say that, even by middle school, so many problems have come from it that it is ridiculous.  Why has bullying become popular?  Because people are faceless and easy prey online.  It's easy to destroy someone when you can type anonymously or even just forward rumors.  It's sad.

It will be the downfall of thousands of people's careers, schooling, life, etc.  As a mom in my town once said, could you imagine every girl you grew up with being defined by the worst night they had in their youth?  So true.

The government would probably be involved and against its abuses, but the government is able to use and abuse it for their own benefit as well.  Stay away!

If you need 'friends' on the computer, it's rough.  And, for everyone who says it 'allows them to keep in touch with people they haven't seen in forever,' well, send them and e-mail, or, huh, an actual letter and enclose photos!  Geez, that's a crazy thought.

For business, one has to realize that the average user on FB has an IQ far to the left of the center of the bell curve.

Great post.

Oct 05, 2011 04:43 AM #69
Rainer
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David Farrell
David V. Farrell Co. - Garden City, NY
Licensed NY State Real Estate Broker

By the way, while AR has so many teriffic features, it also has section that mimic FB.  I know it's great for everyone to share, and I don't have to read or see these poses, but enough already with photos of people's dogs, cats, flowers, etc.  I don't care and they have nothing to do with real estate.  I'd love to see the point system tweaked here to makes sure that people post about relevant topics.  I'm not looking for a Stasi overlord to review every post, but I know that most people are allowed to blog ad infinitum about nonsense or, more recently, I saw someone post over 300 Blogs in under 48 hours.  They were simply adding their entire local MLS to AR by some robot or other. 

Don't get me wrong - I'd love to replace my local MLS with Active Rain as then I could return to having control over my listings!.  But, that's not the case just yet.  In the mean time, it would be nice to have two columns of blogs - one for real estate discussions, another for people mass blogging listings or other advertisements, and maybe, actually, a third for people to self-assess what they are writing and post to the third column called "fairly useless crap which some people might find entertaining." 

Or, the third column could be - "Look here if you simply want to make inane comments on inane posts to get your 25 points."

I think you and I are called 'haters', but I don't think that's the case.  I think it is that we can see a little farher down the line to the deleterious effects that FB is having on our society.  And, Tweets, give me a break.  I don't care what 99.9999% of humanity ever has to say.  I surely don't need to be tweeted by anyone other than my radiologist in the case of a bad x-ray.  Otherwise, get some degree of self esteem (or, actually, get rid of your sense of self-importance, and skip the tweet that your cat just had babies or your just abouto to board a plane. 

The economy is in the crapper.  Everyone says it's e-commerce that will help pull us out of it.  Does anyone stop to think it may be things like FB and the other 'social media' that caused our economy to crash.  Everyone has their heads so far up their - facebook accounts - that they don't do anything while our politicians run rampat over our rights and our finances.

OK - I'm done.  You hit a nerve in me!

Oct 05, 2011 05:01 AM #70
Rainmaker
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David Saks
(retired) - Memphis, TN

Pink dashiki fashion blogs and Bichon Frise lovers blogs seem like they're just not suited for ActiveRain, David.

I'm not a hater. I'm a pragmatist. I'm a person who takes a practical approach to problems and I'm concerned primarily with the success or failure of the actions precipitating from their advent. As a realist, I also have to accept the world as it literally is and deal with it accordingly or make the changes necessary which further assist me with my need to conform to the modifications in lifestyle. Making the adjustments may not be easy, but the act of adjusting something to match a standard and the process of adapting to something, such as a change in environmental conditions, because of necessity is an essential modification of internalized representations in order to accommodate a changing knowledge of the reality of the way things are for the moment. If I love to water ski I'm not going to the Sahara Desert.

No question that "F"book was a phenomenon. "WAS" (and I refused to use it then because I knew it was hoi polloi poison) Now that the act of improving by expanding or enlarging or refining "F"book is not an issue any longer it's not a phenomenon for users or anybody else. It's old news and become a place for cyber bullies and exploitation. It's a kind of a freak show for those with morbid curiosity and a place for ex lovers to spy on the jilted relations. But it lives up to the slogan "for the people". What kind of people is the question ?

"F"book and the other social networks are going to be around for awhile. Users will get tired of the programs and drift away like they always do, but some will continue to make "F"book a vestige of their biological constituency, become attached to it at the hip and leave their DNA strands and garbage in cyber Joe Schmoedom.

"F"book is utilitarian. Proof is the "I Had a Salad Tossed on Me in Poland" (click) blog roll.

"F"book also caters to many users gravely lacking intellectual acuity. The appeal to minors are the easy cookie-cutter mechanics constructing web pages in "F"book and the cheap high they get from a state of mental numbness resulting from the shock of sensory overload. They enjoy subscribing to violent interaction with individuals or groups entering into chaotic streams of unorganized cognition, many with personal beliefs or irrational judgment not founded on any proof or certainty leading to cyber bullying, ridicule and horrific crime.

"F"book, is dangerous.

 

Oct 05, 2011 06:55 AM #71
Anonymous
Kay
I bet you still have a black and white tv.
Oct 08, 2011 09:49 PM #72
Rainmaker
1,571,116
David Saks
(retired) - Memphis, TN

I did have a black and white tv that once belonged to Elvis that my girlfriend bought me years ago, but we donated it to charity. I'm not into Mafia Wars or Salad Tossing In Poland blogs. Facebook sucks, but that's my opinion and I'm entitled to it. I'd hesitate to do business with people who use it, and intensify my scrutiny of them before I do. "F"book should provide a can of oil to each rusty automaton that subscribes to it.

Invasion of the Body Snatchers

Oct 09, 2011 12:22 AM #73
Rainmaker
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Pamela Seley
West Coast Realty Division - Murrieta, CA
Residential Real Estate Agent serving SW RivCo CA

David, this is some of the best writing on this topic I've read. Boingboing.net has a great article called "Facebook of the Dead." I quit "F" book 2-1/2 years ago after a very short time spent on it. I received a computer virus from an incoming message, and the Farmville requests were obnoxious. I find it hard to believe that anyone actually generates real estate business from FB--but what do I know? I agree that FB is dangerous, especially for teens. It's vapid and hideous. After reading this I'm thinking of closing my twitter account and google+. I've not generated business from either of those social media sites. I don't tweet what I've had for breakfast, just blog posts on real estate and my listings. You've shed some more light on the monstrosity called social media. 

Oct 28, 2011 06:35 PM #74
Rainmaker
1,571,116
David Saks
(retired) - Memphis, TN

ActiveRain has transparency and integrity, Pamela. The penalties for behavior unbecoming members of our profession are serious. Participation and engagement in a gregariously unstable, unfocused, mood-swinging setting is a formula for disaster, creates resentful disposition and a lack of trust. Healthy commerce has no place there, nor will it ever succeed.

Oct 28, 2011 07:04 PM #75
Rainmaker
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Faye Y. Taylor
StepStone Realty, LLC - Floresville, TX
Homes for Sale Floresville, La Vernia & San Antoni

David,

I am not very techy but in the last month there has been a story stating that even when you log out of FB their site tracks your internet activity.  So they have a good pattern of your habits to sell.   Frightening.  Not sure how accurate the infor is but it was enough to stop me from going to FB on any type of regular basis.  I do like to connect with old friends though and it is an easy platform to do so.

Oct 29, 2011 08:25 AM #76
Rainmaker
1,571,116
David Saks
(retired) - Memphis, TN

There's a snippet of code than can be downloaded to the registry of your operating system that tracks your presence and key clicks, Faye. The name of the program eludes me, but F'Book users would be prime candidates for that type of intrusion because of the incoherency and overall lack of cohesion of the platform. F'Book use is like standing under a tree in an open field in an electrical storm. Have you ever read their EULA (end users agreement) ? It's safe to presume that most will not, nor have they ever. They just click "agree" and move on never knowing what's lurking behind their browser embedded in the F'Book source code. F'Book has the potential to be nasty. Beware.... Nice to hear from you.

Oct 29, 2011 09:58 AM #77
Rainer
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Devona Garrigus
Garrigus Real Estate - Redlands, CA
REALTOR® / Short Sale Specialist

David,

Unfortunately I use Facebook, but I despise it. It is a waste of time, but I can't deny the link love it can provide, so I will use it.... for now.

Oct 29, 2011 10:30 AM #78
Rainmaker
1,571,116
David Saks
(retired) - Memphis, TN

 

Dollars one will spend on F'Book, Devona.

Oct 29, 2011 07:18 PM #79
Rainer
162,198
David Farrell
David V. Farrell Co. - Garden City, NY
Licensed NY State Real Estate Broker

That's the average annual income of the average FB user you're showing right there.  I don't think they can afford to spend all that. 

Oct 30, 2011 01:15 AM #80
Rainmaker
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David Saks
(retired) - Memphis, TN

Hahaha...David...

Oct 31, 2011 05:49 AM #81
Rainer
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David Farrell
David V. Farrell Co. - Garden City, NY
Licensed NY State Real Estate Broker

You've got the post that will never die - and I noticed up top that 'points have been removed' from it.  What's up with that - they don't like the photos?

Oct 31, 2011 06:24 AM #82
Rainmaker
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David Saks
(retired) - Memphis, TN

I typically post 20 to 30 or so blog posts a week, David. When the ten post limit has been reached the "points for posts removed" icon is displayed by default unless I've chosen to implement the icon by checking the box that says, "not my content" when I upload my post, which I typically do when I receive the financial crimes reporting from the government or other sources for reprint. Even though points are removed for posting the blog, comments still generate a few points. The point system is fun, however, and important to ActiveRain because of the healthy and very spirited competitive nature it's created.

Oct 31, 2011 06:43 AM #83
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