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But I Heard, But I Heard, But I Heard - Short Sale Myths Debunked

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Anson Properties 3086504

But I Heard, But I Heard, But I Heard - Short Sale Myths Debunked

It can be very frustrating for a Gainesville homeowner who is facing foreclosure to not find the correct information necessary to assist in making a difficult decision on whether or not to short sale their home. We feel it is important that any decision you make is made by having as much information available to you as possible.  I have compiled myths I have heard or read over time to help clear some of the confusion.  One thing to keep in mind is that every short sale is different because each lender has their own policies and procedures and each borrower (seller) has their own unique situation. 

Myth 1- I must stop making payments before bank will approve a short sale

This is less common than it used to be, however I have worked with sellers whose short sales were denied because they were current on their payments.  I have only found this to be an issue with Freddie Mac and in one Gainesville seller’s specific case they had only $80 left each month after all bills were paid and had a loss of income.  However, it is not necessary for you to stop making payments for the bank to take you seriously and have a successful short sale.  It is important to do a little investigation up front by finding out who the investor is.  Many times this is not the same entity as the lender carrying your mortgage.

It is also important to understand that in fact, failure to make payments will ding your credit report for each month your mortgage payment is missed.  It is understandable if you are financially not able to and it is important that you do not stop because a friend, family member or agent has suggested you do so.  Please investigate the consequences of this prior to making that decision.   What the bank needs to see is a true hardship and reason why you are unable to continue making your monthly payments and /or must sell because of loss of job, relocation, divorce, etc. Short sales are very prevalent and due to current market conditions the banks generally understand why you are requesting to participate in a short sale, whether you missed payments or not.

Myth 2 – I should never accept a payment plan from the bank…they should forgive all my debt.

This is all too common and I hear it quite often.  Here is an example of a possible short sale scenario. Let’s say you owe $250,000 on your home, you bought it for $278,000 and it is now worth $150,000.  A $100,000 difference in what you owe the bank and what the home is worth.  A buyer contracts on your home for $150,000 and the bank agrees to the short sale, agrees to waive the deficiency but comes to you and asks for you to come to closing with $5000 or take a unsecured note for $10,000 at 0% interest payable over 15 years at $56 a month. You say no and the home ends up in foreclosure, is resold after being carried by the bank for a year from the foreclosure date to resale.  In the interim the home deteriorates slightly from nobody living in it and causes the value to go down by 15% and the sales price is $127,500.  The bank incurred taxes of $2800, attorney’s fees of $12,000, Realtor commissions of $7,600, carrying costs of $3300 for utilities for the year and $3500 in miscellaneous expenses.  The $100,000 difference in the short sale price to what was owed is now $151,700 that the bank may seek a judgment against you for that amount.  This is a big difference between possible out of pocket costs and not to mention how your credit will be affected. Keep in mind if you foreclose and a judgment is sought, your wages may be garnished.

Myth 3 – Pricing the home very low will get an offer quickly

Yes, pricing a home very low may get an offer quickly but at a cost to the seller and the buyer.  Banks do their homework and though you can get a great price on a short sale they will not just give the home away.  Most buyers are still of the mindset that they should not pay over asking price. An experienced agent will price the home in accordance to what the bank would most likely approve the short sale for.  In some instances, the agent may price the home on the higher end of the current market value and maintain a marketing report to help prove their case as to why the bank should take the offer.  This detailed report will provide the pricing history where offers were not entertained until the home was listed at a lower price. Most deals fall apart because of low ball offers, lack of communication between all parties and changing seller circumstances.  The disadvantage to sellers is that the time is ticking if they are facing foreclosure.  To waste their time on an unrealistic offer could cost them the home all together.  For buyers it is a waste of their time and they will need to start the search all over again. Make sure to offer close to or at FAIR MARKET VALUE.

Myth 4- The bank will not pay the commission for my Real Estate Agent and/ or the costs of listing the property with a real estate agent will be passed on to me

A real estate agent’s professional fee is taken out of the banks proceeds at close of escrow.  The bank will dictate how much the agent(s) will receive.  Most banks will not pay an agent’s commission if they are representing themselves as the buyer.  Now I do have an issue with this since technically in Florida the Agent is paid by the Broker and not paid directly from the bank.  This means the bank is denying paying the brokerage firm.  Just a small pet peeve of mine and screams trouble down the road.

Myth 5 – I cannot short sale with 2 mortgages

When the short sale process started many people could not short sale because they had a second mortgage.  After the first wave of foreclosures lien holders in second position realized that if they did not participate in the short sale they would receive $0. Now instead of foreclosing on a property, they have started to accept pennies on the dollar…which is better than getting nothing.  One mistake I have seen made in the short sale process is not initiating the short sale for both loans.  Some agents wait on the first to get approved before starting the second and this just causes additional time and delays.  It is much smarter to work them both and work them backwards.  What I mean by this is if you know up-front what the second will take it makes it easier to negotiate the first.

Myth 6 – A Short Sale is embarrassing…a black cloud will be hovering over our house.

There is nothing different in the way a Gainesville homeowner should prepare to sell their home as they would any other time.  A Short Sale has become so common place in today’s market that the stigma has been reduced.  Short Sales happen to people with good jobs making good money. It simply is a situation where you must sell and do not have the means to make up the difference. You should never feel or be made to feel embarrassed about the situation. It is much better than a foreclosure and you have the ability to buy a home again in 2-3 years depending upon your credit. 

Myth 7 – Any agent can list a short sale.

Not just any agent can do a short sale.  Many agents that do not truly understand how to complete a short sale may cause harm to the seller.  The fact of the matter is that most agents do not have a system or plan in place to list a short sale. We assist our sellers with a specific pre-listing system for short sales and a tailored marketing plan that assists in the short sale being accepted. We have also established partnerships with attorneys, loss mitigation and title companies to provide the service that is appropriate for you. This thorough system gives the banks what they want to see in a home sale. Not every short sale will be a success and for anyone to tell you otherwise they are mistaken.  Trust in the team that is experienced and has the ability to provide you with good counsel and reputable resources.

 

Ronald DiLalla
Century 21 Discovery DRE 01813824 - Anaheim, CA
No. Orange Cty Real Estate

Thre are a lot of myths out there.  Give them the facts...Have them see an attorney and/or cpa, and let them make their own decisions.

Oct 09, 2011 07:37 PM
Dave Roberts
Healdsburg Sotheby's International Realty - Healdsburg, CA

I met an otherwise sensible seller who had his credit ruined by taking a banker's advice to stop making mortgage payments. He ended up being able to secure private financing when he moved, but the bad advice was very costly to him since it prevented him from getting today's low rates.

Oct 09, 2011 08:17 PM
Anonymous
Anthony Lamacchia

Stephanie!

Great post! I am up here in Boston MA doing at least 30 Short Sales per month.  There are SO many myths and we are always having to clear the record.  I like your comments about how not all realtors can do Short Sales.  We filmed a bunch of You Tube videos to dispute myths one of them is called "Not Every Agent Can do a Short Sale" Here is the link to all the vidoes:
http://www.shortsalene.com/videos/

Again great job!

Anthony Lamacchia

Oct 09, 2011 10:34 PM
#3
Ben Benita
Ben Benita - Gainesville, VA
Speaker, Author, Game Changer, Coach

Great points, I negotiate short sales for agents all over the country.....there is a TON of bad information and asyou noted, I heard this, my cousin read that.

 

Bottom line - gow tih someone WHO HAS DONE THEM, and, DON LOTS OF THEM, be it an experienced agent, or, a short sale negotiatior like me......homeowners just literally cna NOT afford "But I ehard, BUt I heard, But I heard"....

 

Oct 10, 2011 12:46 AM
Stephanie Anson
Anson Properties - Gainesville, FL
Estates | Homes | Land | Investments

Ronald, I always encourage the consultation of an attorney.  I work with some of the best who used to represent the banks and understand how they work.  Unfortunately many sellers that I even feel need to consult one, refuse to do so.

Dave - It goes right back to those getting advise to file bankruptcy before trying a short sale.  Since I obviously do not have a license to practice law I cannot advise them on this but I do encourage owners to get a second opinion from a Real Estate attorney and lay out the known facts of both.  I hate to see some owners get taken advantage of, but it happens in all professions.

Thank you Anthony for the video links!  Great Job, precise, short and full of good information.

Ben great information.  thank you, I will look your company up.

 

Oct 10, 2011 01:08 AM
Anonymous
Lisa Lazaro

Thank you so much for this 'true', concise & to the point list of things to be aware of.  I've looked into a possible short sale of my home & as you said - I've heard it all from everyone & their brother.  Very good advise I am keeping close at hand for if/when the time comes.

Oct 10, 2011 01:11 AM
#6
Anthony Lamacchia
Lamacchia Realty, Inc. - Watertown, MA

Glad you enjoyed the videos. (For some reason my profile didn't pull through on my last comment.)

They were a lot of work to put together but they really help potential clients.

Thanks,

Anthony

Oct 10, 2011 01:36 AM
Anonymous
kevin Knebel

Stephanie...excellent information, very professional page. I rarely comment on articles like these so understand that your efforts are noticed and appreciated by those that never do. Only the best. K2

Oct 10, 2011 02:37 AM
#8
Anonymous
Terry McGovern

I agree with everything Stephanie had to say . I am assuming she is a Broker since she has a very good understanding of the Short Sale process unlike many Real Estate Agents.  Most Agents say they represent the Sellers interest which they should , yet do not. Reasons 1)They do not attempt to eliminate the deficiency judgements such as the bank pursuing the seller for the remaining balance of the loan, etc.2) they do not typically go after the 2nd mortgage leaving the seller  subject to that balance 3) They do not look at the whole picture at all, ie. other liens (MECH, ETC), not to mention the IRS, just when you thought the nightmare was over, the IRS looks at the balance, you did not pay, has INCOME and will hound you for ten years. Will that realtor still be around to help you then.. They (the realtor) are typically intimidated by the Banks and list the property for the unrealistic BANK offers. They do not understand that most of the time their not even talking to an official of the Bank , they are talking to some bill collector the Bank has contracted the work out to and has been given no negotiating power at all. DO NOT BE INTIMIDATED BY THE BANKS (AFTER ALL, THE BANKS HAVE PARTIAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS CRISIS, ALTHOUGH THE POLITICIANS LIKE BARNEY FRANKS(CONGRESS) AND CHRIS DODD(SENATOR) ALONG WITH FREDDIE MAC, BEAR MOST, IF NOT ALL THE RESPONSIBILITY ALONG WITH SLICK WILLY, REMEMBER HIM)!!

Threre is another option which most agents and/brokers are not aware of because they have not yet heard of it. It is called the "Assignment of Mortgage Payment". Do not let anyone tell you this is not a possibility and/or it is illegal because in fact it is legal in all 50 States and Canada and we have attorney's and Title companies doing these offers everyday. It has nothing to do with the original Lenders of the mortgage, assigning the Mortgage (ROBO SIGNING) to other lenders/BANKS.

This allows the Seller(s) to "Assign", NOT ASSUME, the mort payment to a Buyer . The seller in most situations, pays none of the closing cost including realtor fees, transfer taxes (where applicable) etc. and the seller(s) maintain their CREDIT RATING (which in a foreclosure or short sale would be ruined for 4-10 years). The Buyer(s) do not need a Bank for the 20% down payment and further stringent credit ratings  (750 and above). The buyer(s) pay the closing cost, assignment fee, and does not nescessarily need to have stellar credit ratings .


There is further explanation and disclosures " required" but if interesed, and you should be as a seller and/or buyer please call us at (855) 220-2677/ (410) 279-4837 



Oct 10, 2011 04:38 AM
#9
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!

Hi Stephanie. Excellent post and points! Short sales are one of the most complicated process of home selling so this post definitely explained it well. Great job!

Oct 25, 2011 12:15 PM
Anonymous
Terry McGovern

Another great article and thank you for sending this. I was very interested in the part about contacting the banks"investor" and how would one find that information out. That could be very usefull to me being in this short sale , foreclosurer business and much appreciated if you could e-mail me or call me @ 410-279-4837 anytime!!   Thanx again  for the valuable info and insight .    terrymcgovern1@gmail.com

Nov 06, 2011 04:17 PM
#11
Stephanie Anson
Anson Properties - Gainesville, FL
Estates | Homes | Land | Investments

Thank you Katerina.  I appreciate your input.

Terry, I will give you a call today.

Nov 07, 2011 01:39 AM
Greg Madsen and Richard McGarry
McGarry and Madsen Home Inspection - Gainesville, FL

Fascinating post. Thanks!

Nov 20, 2011 04:44 AM