Sure I Trust. But I Also Verify.

By
Real Estate Broker/Owner with J. Philip Faranda (J. Philip R.E. LLC) Westchester County NY License # 49FA1074963

Roadside signBuyers in this real estate market enjoy many more liberties and advantages with sellers than I have ever seen since I was first licensed in 1996. Not only do they have the lowest rates in half a century, they have far more bargaining power, and in Westchester County, where a starter home can cost $500,000, that is huge. It is a great time to be on the purchasing side. The one thing they don't get to do, however, is consider themselves exempt from reasonable scrutiny regarding their qualifications to buy. Simply put, I as the listing agent have to verify things, and no amount of annoyance or insistence to the contrary can change that. 

I have written previously how cash buyers simply have to show proof of funds if they want to be truly taken seriously. Today, I will reiterate that fact for buyers getting a mortgage. If you are going to submit a pre approval, or in today's case, a prequalification, it is part of my job to verify things, and that goes beyond your agent's "cross my heart" reassurances. It means in many cases calling the loan officer on the pre qualification letter and asking questions. Here are some that I would ask:

  • Have you verified the borrower's credit?
  • Have you verified income and employment? 
  • Have you run  the borrower through your underwriting software (an industry standard)? 

Today, we had an offer where it was disclosed that they were in the process of selling their current home, it was submitted with a pre-qualification from a mortgage broker, not a direct lender, and the amount on the letter was less than the offer. My question to the buyer agent was shrugged off with a reassurance that all would be fine because they had extra money. Perhaps that is all true, but my job is to verify, not take assurances blindly. Like I said, in Westchester, with the competing number of homes for sale, real estate mistakes can be very expensive. Having a deal die can cost my clients tens of thousands of dollars. 

SO...I called the listing agent on the property they were selling (under contract, strong buyer) and I also spoke with the loan officer. I heard what I needed to hear from those I needed to speak with. Without getting into too many details, this did not sit well with the buyer, who actually called me directly. 

Sorry, but that is how it is today. I have to verify the qualification of buyers before I can advise my client to accept an offer. Spending months off the market under contract with a buyer who cannot close is not acceptable. Buyers are the belle of the ball now more than ever, but they don't get a mulligan on basic due diligence from the listing agent. It is my job to verify, and the notion that I am invading their privacy is fallacious. It is absolutely our business to ascertain that the buyer can perform. If I wanted to take some perverse pleasure in sticking my nose in someone's personal business, I'd watch reality TV. This is business, and should never be taken personally. 

Comments (108)

Kerry Jenkins
Prime Properties - Crestline, CA

If a buyer is insulted that you are checking up on their financing, well that's just too bad so sad. in this day and age you need to make absolutely sure they can buy the house before 3 months later we have to cancel due to their lack of being able to prove something financially!

Oct 13, 2011 07:38 AM
Anonymous
Mike Shearer

Great blog. It is so basic and causes so much trouble if you don't make these kinds of calls. I would not even consider accepting an offer unless I had a personal conversation with the loan officer.

Oct 13, 2011 07:42 AM
#90
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

J. Philip

An excellent read that buyers agents and buyers should read - they can help each other be prepared for verficiation, or provide proof up front. Since when is buying a home private. The most important issue - the money, and everyone that ties in (job, saving, credit, debt, loans, assets, alimony) - has to be public or it can't happen. If someone does not want to share THAT is a big red flag.

Jeff

Oct 13, 2011 07:46 AM
Gene Riemenschneider
Home Point Real Estate - Brentwood, CA
Turning Houses into Homes

I have been burned as a buyer's agent as well.  My client tells me he can do something - then he cannot.  I have learned the hard way.

Oct 13, 2011 07:50 AM
Ann Steinemann
Russell Realty,Westlake, Ohio 419-602-0339 - Westlake, OH
REALTOR, GRI, PPS

Hi Philip, timely topic relayed with your typical balance of diplomacy and directness. Just last week I had a call from an agent who wanted to show one of my listings. He needed some additional information prior to showing it. When I called him back he said he wasn't going to show it after all. Since it was a corporate relocation he'd asked the prospective buyers for a preapproval letter prior to showing. The buyers got offended and said they didn't want him knowing their financial information and refused to see the listing with that requirement.

These days I make it a point to ask for a preapproval letter before showing property to any buyer prospect. Our area is filled with REO and short sale listings which require preapproval letters from "approved lenders" with any offer submitted. When I explain this to buyers upfront, they are usually more than happy to comply. I've saved myself countless hours of running around with unqualified buyers since I began asking for a preapproval letter prior to beginning the home search process.

Oct 13, 2011 09:01 AM
John Juarez
The Medford Real Estate Team - Fremont, CA
ePRO, SRES, GRI, PMN

J. Philip,

You did the job that you felt obligated to do and it looks like you got the answers that the buyer’s agent told you that you would get. Of, course, had you not verified the information – has you assumed that everything was as stated – well, we all know what happens when we ASS-U-ME things.

Oct 13, 2011 09:02 AM
Kent Dills
Broker, Dills Real Estate - Bellingham, WA
Real Estate 817-495-8028, Bellingham, Washington

Another great post (topic and writing) JP!

Agree 100% with Rob's comment (#87) about the loan officer's phone # being the most important info on the pre-approval letter too!

Oct 13, 2011 10:24 AM
Dawn A Fabiszak
Private Label Realty ( Denver metro area, Colorado - Aurora, CO
The Dawn of a New Real Estate Experience!

J P ~ going beyond the basic lender letter, I believe it is important to actually speak with the lender to find out how far the application has processed.

Oct 13, 2011 01:53 PM
Beverly Femia
BlueCoast Realty Corporation - Hampstead, NC
Broker Realtor Stager - Greater Wilmington, NC Are

Hi Phillip,  All the checking wouldn't be necessary had the buyer's agent had given you all you needed.  I hoped to reblog but that option disappeared as I was endeavoring to do so! 

 

 

Oct 13, 2011 01:55 PM
Carol Tunis
Florida Homes Realty & Mortgage - Saint Augustine, FL
Carol Tunis...a "HouseSold" name!

Amen!  Although weren't not over it until we've closed as anything can happen.  Why wouldn't you verify the creditworthiness of a buyer.  Upfront, if you're the buyer's agent and upfront when you've got an offer if you're the seller's agent.  Things are way too dicey out there to depend on a wish and a prayer...

Oct 13, 2011 02:43 PM
Anonymous
Anonymous

In my area, there is a clause in bold type that states that the buyer gives permission to have his credit-worthiness and ability to buy checked, so every offer gives permission to perform due diligence.

Oct 13, 2011 03:03 PM
#99
Ken Anderson
Apex Results Realty Inc., Brokerage - Burlington, ON
Broker in Burlington, Ontario

In my area, there is a clause in bold type that states that the buyer gives permission to have his credit-worthiness and ability to buy checked, so every offer gives permission to perform due diligence.

Oct 13, 2011 03:13 PM
Bob Miller
Keller Williams Cornerstone Realty - Ocala, FL
The Ocala Dream Team

Hi Phillip.  As usually your posts are great and educational.  Keem 'em coming!

Oct 13, 2011 10:56 PM
Anonymous
Penny Sargent

Thanks for the back-up.  I too am amazed at how many agents will submit with a pre-approval letter that is not just outdated but the the buyer's are still shopping for a loan, then when you call the LO they tell you they can't talk to me because I don't have authorization. 

Oct 14, 2011 07:39 AM
#102
Steven Pahl
Keller Williams Tampa Properties - Tampa, FL
Real Estate Consultant Tampa, FL 813-319-6423

You are right Phillip, I find that the more I verify and document the more I close!

Oct 14, 2011 10:00 AM
Will Nesbitt
Nesbitt Realty at Condo Alexandria - Alexandria, VA
Nesbitt Realty is a family-run brokerage.

Great post, very useful information to have. I've delt with all of these issue first hand.

Oct 15, 2011 07:19 AM
Steven B. Harkness
American Capital Corp - Silverdale, WA
360-981-8615-concierge service VA-FHA-USDA

 

Hi Phillip, Steve Harkness here; I am a 19 year licensed mortgage loan officer in the State of Washington and I couldn't agree with you more. Especially now that there are two very distinct skill set's doing loans. There are those like myself whom are licensed, who have been in the business for years, who have the same fiduciary duty to do what’s in the best interest of the client as you the Realtor. Then there are the non-licensed bank clerks that were a name tag that says "loan officer." These individuals have just enough knowledge to tell the borrower where to fill sign the 1003, and the banks very much want to keep it that way! You see, they are paid a pittance of what a loan is worth. The banks new business model is not to hire anyone with too much experience, and certainly not someone that understands the process from taking the loan application to the securitization of the loan as collateral for a bond that will then be sold on Wall Street. The problem for you and the consumer is you get what you pay for, or in this case what you don’t pay for. The job of the bank loan officer is to be a front man for the bank. To bring you guys donuts, and rate sheets. Show up at functions where there are Realtors and represent their bank. Ask them how a loan is going and they will tell you, "everything is great, and truthfully how would they know differently since many of them barely understands how a loan goes together especially in this environment where the rules change bi-weekly. If I was in your shoes I would be calling their Processor daily for an update....if you can find out where their processing center is. When I am questioned about the strength of a borrower by someone like you I carefully tell you what you need to know to do your job without violating the confidentiality of my/our client(s). We are both in this together and it is going to take both parties to fix this broken real estate market. What I would like to emphasize now more than ever is all mortgage lenders are not the same, and most of us generate our own referrals that we then share with our business partners, and expect same. Those that hand out business cards of three different lenders need not apply!

Steven B. Harkness

W.J. Bradley Mortgage Corp.

MLO# 140972

http://steveharkness.com

Cellular (360) 981-8615 

Oct 15, 2011 07:53 AM
Gayle Rich-Boxman Fishhawk Lake Real Estate
John L Scott Market Center - Birkenfeld, OR
"Your Local Expert!" 503-755-2905

Such wise words, Phil. It helps me further layer my knowledge base coming from a veteran in the real estate field. I am lucky to work with a loan officer who is SO professional and most of my buyers who don't pay cash go through him. He makes me look good! I trust him implicitly and I also end up working directly with the appraisers who call me as I am the only one selling in this area and I've gotten to know them as well, which is SUCH a benefit, because an appraiser can also be that person who makes or breaks the deal.

Buyers seem to feel that they can get everything for nothing as if they have ALL of the power and reining them in a bit by double-checking is just the process of doing business sensibly in this tumultuous time.

Oct 15, 2011 09:00 AM
Jayson Holland
Listings.com - Denver, CO
Jay Holland

Great post. Of COURSE you have to verify. This is your job as the listing agent. If the buyer called you directly to complain, dont stress, just refer them back to their broker/agent for explanation. In Colorado we call lender letters "toilet paper" since that is about what they are worth. IF you dont follow up and call the lender directly and do your due dilligence on the buyer, you are putting your client the seller in jeopardy. This is basic and I cant believe it isnt standard standard standard. Congrats on the feature.

 

 

 

 

Nov 01, 2011 05:41 AM
Wayne B. Pruner
Oregon First - Tigard, OR
Tigard Oregon Homes for Sale, Realtor, GRI

This is a major part of our job and many agents keep their heads in the sand.

Sep 28, 2012 02:02 PM

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