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Square footage by seller

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Real Estate Agent with Realty World-American Dream Realty

Ouch! Does that term make anyone else squirm?

 

It sure does for me. I've been on both ends, where my seller lied to me about the size (perhaps they just guessed? Maybe threw in the garage measurements?) and where my buyer and I had to decide if we wanted to walk away from an escrow after getting the appraisal and noticing the error. I always check with the county to see what data they have, but in many cases, they just don't have the measurements recorded.

 

Is it worth getting into an argument with a seller? Do many agents insist on taking their own measurements and what about the liability if you're challenged on your numbers? It's such a grey area, and yet it's vitally important to the value of the property.

 

Have you ever had a deal fall out on the discrepancy in reported square footage?  

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Chris Tesch
RE/MAX Bryan-College Station - College Station, TX
College Station, Texas Real Estate
Kerry, we either use CAD square footages or previous appraisals.  I did have a deal almost fall through from a discrepancy of 27 square foot.  The CAD stated the square footage as being 1615, and the appraisal showed it as being 27 square foot smaller.  The buyer got very agitated and stated that since he thought the house was larger he should be getting a lower price.  The interesting thing is, we had the price per square foot at $77, and the 27 square foot would be over $2000 worth of house.  Fortunately the appraisal came in at $2000 over sales price, but he still wasn't happy.  I had to convince him that at that point the seller could sue for non-specific performance if they wanted to.
Dec 09, 2006 09:07 PM
Norm Fisher
Royal LePage Saskatoon Real Estate - Saskatoon, SK
In my area an agent is expected to "take steps to discover facts about a property which a prudent agent would take to market a property (or something to that effect)."  The regulators expect agents to know how to measure a home.  It's not rocket science, but rather, pretty basic math. A "misrepresentation" in quoted square feet because an agent chose to use public sources or a sellers representation would result in sanctions.  They'd say, "You are the professional."  I use those other sources as a basis of comparison.  If there's any substantial discrepancy, I measure again.
Dec 10, 2006 04:39 AM
Brian Ortiz
HomeSmart - Chicago, IL
Chicago Real Estate Broker

Everyone seems to always have a different method of measuring square footage.  I know it is a specific number with simple calculations.  I've realized some Realtors count closets, decks, hallways, stairs, etc.  Typically what does everyone count into their calculations.  I often find sellers and other Realtors all will try to calculate the sf of a property, and all will receive a different result. 

I always measure first then cross ref with public info, or previous listings of the home.  Luckily here in Illinois, the sf field in our MLS is written as "ASF (Approx Square Footage)". 

Is there a general rule of thumb others follow?

Dec 10, 2006 05:01 AM
Norm Fisher
Royal LePage Saskatoon Real Estate - Saskatoon, SK
If there is some "association of Appraisers" in the US they probably have guidelines which their members use.  It's probably a safe route to follow those.  I use the exterior of the foundation for a main floor and my best effort to eyeball second levels. A lawyer I spoke with said there are no successful litigations for minor discrepancies in the 2-3% range.
Dec 10, 2006 05:36 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

There was a case.  Back in early 1994, I read a case where a buyer sued and won a case against a real estate agent because the house was 100 square feet less than listed in the MLS.  The buyer, of course, was an attorney. 

After reading that case in our State Realtor newsletter where they notice us of real estate litigation, I have NEVER since listed square feet in a listing, let buyers take their own measurements and took out a $1,000,000 liability policy shortly thereafter. 

Another case was a successful case against a Realtor when the buyer fell off a back porch and broke an ankle.  The JUDGE SAID that when an agent shows a home, they are in the shoes of the owner and responsible for the safety of the buyer walking through. 

This is also why so many new home sites have a "hard hat" period when buyers aren't permitted to walk through alone. 

It doesn't pay to take risks with information or safety.

 

Dec 10, 2006 08:41 AM
Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

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