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When Your Parent Needs to Go to An Adult Care Home, What About Their Home

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When Your Parent Needs to Go to An Adult Care Foster Home, What About Their Home

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One of the most difficult things to handle, I believe, in any child's life is when their parent or parents have the need to be in an Adult Care Foster Home. 

Decisions are difficult about where to place them (sounds cold does it not), finances of how to care for them and the stage of life they are in. I think it is a difficult time of life as our parents age and we need to take over, much as we have for our own children.  It is not always possible to take them into your own home for many reasons and putting them Adult Care Foster Homes is not easy.

Then what do you do about their house, if they need to go on Medicaid, they cannot keep it if it is in their name, government rules you know.This is a legal matter to be handled carefully.

Do they have enough savings to pay for the Adult Care Foster Home, and if they do not, then what.  So many decisions both emotional and legal that need to be made, medicare helps especially if it is time for hospice, still what about their home.

My husband's mother is in this position and luckily a long time ago everything she had was put into a trust with powers of attorney, so that the problem of finances would not be so difficult. She is not wealthy by any stretch nor were my husband parents ever wealthy. They had a very modest home they lived in for the last 35 years, did not make many repairs or even paint from the original colors of the home. 

It had red carpet, red and black wallpaper, dark kitchen cabinets and counter-tops, dark woodwork, and a brick corner platform for a wood burning fireplace which is no longer legal in Oregon without changes. A Sanish style that was so popular in the early seventies.

We need to rent this home so that my mother-in-law has more income and she does not go through her savings so quickly so we decided to do as much updating as possible without costing us a fortune.  Here is what we did.

  • Took off the dark paneling on the walls that covered the family room and part of the dining room, dry walled, textured and painted all walls a neutral color.
  •  Bamboo wood flooring was laid down in the dining room, hall and three bedrooms.
  • New carpet is being installed in the Living Room and Family Room.
  • The wood stove was removed and now we are deciding on the brick area where the stove stood. 
  • All new sinks, fixtures and toilets throughout. 
  • Painted all rooms in neutral warm tones


The house does not look like the same house and we did not have to spend a fortune to get the work done as we did most of it ourselves.

In this market it does not behoove us to sell the house unless we absolutely have to and we hope this will not be the case. 

So what do most people do with their parents home when it is necessary to place their parents elsewhere. Getting their parents the care they need plus medical services and importantly where they will be safe?

This was our solution for the time being and it has taken the whole family to get it done with the least possible expense so we do not eat into the savings of my mother-in-law or our own.  It is a difficult situation...so what would you do

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Mary Stewart
HomeTrust Real Estate, LLC, Homes for Everyone - Wilsonville, OR
Wilsonville and Surrounding Portland Metro Areas

Jayne, it sounds to me like you and your mom are on the same page.  I just know from experience that moving too quickly often ends in regrets, I think you have a handle on it.  As I said your mom is lucky to have you and you to have her.  The bonds are so irreplaceable but yet they stay with you always. Not easy always to "grow in your years" in the way one would like.  The best of thoughts your way.

Nov 02, 2011 10:19 AM
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

I am soon to face this same scenario & to be honest I think this is a good decison. You can't really sell the house in a quick fashion so why not give her the income per month? Doesn't really solve the problem but a helpful one that I'm sure she needs.

Nov 02, 2011 10:23 AM
Mary Stewart
HomeTrust Real Estate, LLC, Homes for Everyone - Wilsonville, OR
Wilsonville and Surrounding Portland Metro Areas

Hi Tammy, I am so glad your mother is in good health, that is also what I hope for myself in the years to come.  Would she be open to a discussion about creating a trust that she is in control of, with a trustee on as well to take over when she is no longer able to handle her affairs?  It might be a way to go especially if things could get ugly in the future.  Then when she is no longer able to handle the trust the trustee takes over.  I believe this is the way my husband and his brother handled the matter.  The thought of not being in control is the fear that holds many people and when they find out they are in control then it might not be an issue any longer.  Just a thought, an trust attorney would know.

Nov 02, 2011 10:25 AM
Mary Stewart
HomeTrust Real Estate, LLC, Homes for Everyone - Wilsonville, OR
Wilsonville and Surrounding Portland Metro Areas

Gloria, I am sorry your mother fell and broke her hip a very painful experience.  It sounds as though you are doing what will work for her.  I am glad my husband, brother and his parents had the foresight and the wisdom to form the trust with the provisions they did.  It has made everything so much easier.

Very nice comments and information, very valuable.  Thank you so much.

Nov 02, 2011 10:29 AM
Mary Stewart
HomeTrust Real Estate, LLC, Homes for Everyone - Wilsonville, OR
Wilsonville and Surrounding Portland Metro Areas

Thank You Sylvie,

Time passes so quickly and many things happen along the way and before you know it you are there.  We are all so glad that the family came together and updated the house together.  Everyone did something, I just happened to do the painting of most of the walls along with my husbands brother.  Two people make it happen so much more quickly and some things we hired done.  This is a real bonus for my mother-in-law because it is really rentable now where before it was questionable.  She is not aware as her mind does not always grasp everything but the results are of great benefit to her.

Nov 02, 2011 10:34 AM
Mary Stewart
HomeTrust Real Estate, LLC, Homes for Everyone - Wilsonville, OR
Wilsonville and Surrounding Portland Metro Areas

Lyn we all felt it ws the best decision at this time.  It does give her the monthly income that is so helpful for her.  The Adult Care Foster home is expensive and without the income it would be tough.  We are trying to preserve her savings as much as possible because she may need every penny down the road.  Getting old is not what it might be cracked up to be in the movies or on television.  Where are the Waltons anyway.  A time gone by. Sad.  Thank you for sharing.

Nov 02, 2011 10:38 AM
Woody Edwards
First Choice Realty, Inc - Chesterfield, VA
A Realtor® Who Answers His Phone!

This is not an easy decision for anyone to make.  Each case has its own separate circumstances, making it even more difficult.  I, being an only child had to go through it 10 years ago.  The worse part was I had to deal with laws of 2 states......where she had lived and the house was as well as the state where I lived and brought her to live in a facility near me.

With the support of my wife and son, we had the enjoyment of her being near for almost 5 years.  It was difficult at the time, but I will always be able to look back and feel I did what I had to do to make her last years as enjoyable as possible.

As I stated, this is a difficult decision for anyone to have to make, and I wish anyone in the circumstances described, all the best with one piece of advice......Get the details, make a decision, and DON"T second guess yourself!!!

Good luck!

Nov 02, 2011 03:21 PM
Ric Mills
Keller Williams Southern Az - Tucson, AZ
Integrity, Honesty, and Vast Real Estate Knowledge

This is a tough situation and me and my family are in this position also.  I would recommend talking to an attorney that specializes in Asset/Medicare management before you rent the home.  Even in a family trust there are rules of assets that the Gov't looks at.  Basically to get Federal and state help for elderly care their assets have to be below a certain level.  Good luck and let me know what you find out.  I will also try and let you know what we find out.

Nov 02, 2011 04:13 PM
Debb Janes
Nature As Neighbors - Camas, WA
Put My Love of Nature At Work for You

How did I miss this?  Congrats dear Mary!  Sounds like you all rallied to make it happen. So many of us can relate. 

Nov 02, 2011 04:53 PM
Bob Miller
Keller Williams Cornerstone Realty - Ocala, FL
The Ocala Dream Team

Hi Mary, Excellent post.  In some states there are also estate planning issues such as will the asset offset state supplied assisted living.

Nov 03, 2011 02:01 AM
Kate Akerly
Kaminsky Group - Manhattan Beach, CA
Manhattan Beach Residential Sales

This can be a very difficult time in life, but it sounds like you have taken as much control of the situation as you can.  Fortunately, there were at least some assets that could be leveraged to help provide income.  Good luck.

Nov 03, 2011 03:13 AM
Mary Stewart
HomeTrust Real Estate, LLC, Homes for Everyone - Wilsonville, OR
Wilsonville and Surrounding Portland Metro Areas

Good Morning Woody,

The advice you gave "Get the details, make a decision, and DON"T second guess yourself!!!" is the best ever and I totally agree with you. You and your family did such a wonderful thing for your Mother and the memories that were created for your family I would be willing to bet were wonderful as well.  A beautiful way to demonstrate to your children the strength of family and the love that comes from it.  Thank you so much for commenting and sharing your story.

Nov 03, 2011 05:01 AM
Mary Stewart
HomeTrust Real Estate, LLC, Homes for Everyone - Wilsonville, OR
Wilsonville and Surrounding Portland Metro Areas

Good Morning Ric,

My husband and his brother did a good job in helping to create the trust before his Father passed away.  It is in good order.  My mother-in-law is not on any state or federal programs with the exception of social security and medicare, not medicaid.  Her assets would not allow medicaid.  She and we are paying out of pocket for her care in the Adult Care Foster Home and this is part of the reason the home is being rented, to supplement what she is paying. It is expensive and more than she was paying in the Adult Care Home she was in before.  She needs so much more care now. It is working so far, but evaluations are always ongoing.  This is just what has worked for us and I think probably we are fortunate.

Nov 03, 2011 05:06 AM
Mary Stewart
HomeTrust Real Estate, LLC, Homes for Everyone - Wilsonville, OR
Wilsonville and Surrounding Portland Metro Areas

Good Morning Debb,

We are fortunate, my husband's whole family came together and we all pitched in and made the changes to the house. It looks great and the carpet went in yesterday, we will finish up this weekend so it will be totally rentable.  A blessing for my mother-in-law although she is not always aware of what is happening, her mind just won't let her. Sad.

M

Nov 03, 2011 05:09 AM
Mary Stewart
HomeTrust Real Estate, LLC, Homes for Everyone - Wilsonville, OR
Wilsonville and Surrounding Portland Metro Areas

Good Morning Bob,

I guess all states are different aren't they, luckily everything has worked out okay for my mother-in-law.  It has taken a lot of work and research, but we did it right and the good news so far is that we are able to supplement her monthly income to pay for ther room and board as she is not on any state programs for assistance or medicaid.

Nov 03, 2011 05:12 AM
Mary Stewart
HomeTrust Real Estate, LLC, Homes for Everyone - Wilsonville, OR
Wilsonville and Surrounding Portland Metro Areas

Good Morning Kate and Mike,

We have been fortunate with the small amount of assets that she has.  It is not a lot in the whole scheme of things, but for now it is working, this is why we do not want to sell the house yet.  She will need the money down the road if it becomes applicable.  She is 93 and not in any kind of good health.  My heart goes out to her as I know she would rather not be here at this time in her life, she has said many times she wants to be with my husbands Father who passed about a year and a half ago.  This is not what I would wish for anyone.  Guess it is a good thing to take good care of our physical and mental health while we are young going forward. Thank you for your comments.

Nov 03, 2011 05:17 AM
Thomas McCombs
Century 21 HomeStar - Akron, OH

It is always a tough call for everyone, especially the one who is being moved out of her house. To be told that he/she can not stay there any longer is often more than she can stand.

If you were able to get thru this OK, then my hat is off to you.

 

Nov 04, 2011 04:03 AM
Mary Stewart
HomeTrust Real Estate, LLC, Homes for Everyone - Wilsonville, OR
Wilsonville and Surrounding Portland Metro Areas

Good Morning Thomas,

It really is a tough call.  The good new for us was that my in-laws moved from the house to an Adult Living Center several  years ago.  My father-in-law passed about a year and a half after-wards, but at least she was used to living there. She recently became unable to help herself so we moved her to the Adult Care Foster Home.  She seems to like it and they do take good care of her.  I believe, for her, the blessing was she was not in the home when my father-in-law passed. 

That is so difficult as I watched my own parents go through that scenario years ago.  My mother passed first from cancer and my step father was outside of himself until he passed two years later. Difficult to watch.

Nov 04, 2011 04:40 AM
Wayne B. Pruner
Oregon First - Tigard, OR
Tigard Oregon Homes for Sale, Realtor, GRI

This is always a difficult situation. My wife is going through this with her parents.

Oct 11, 2012 02:14 AM
Mary Stewart
HomeTrust Real Estate, LLC, Homes for Everyone - Wilsonville, OR
Wilsonville and Surrounding Portland Metro Areas

Wayne, this is always a difficult process to go through for sure.  We are still there, but now because my husbands mother is running out of money, medicare is beginning to handle it.  Very interesting and a lot of hoops one has to go through.  I hope your wife's journey is a little smoother.

Oct 15, 2012 01:58 AM