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Listing Price $300k Offer Price $350k Lender Red Flags, Why?

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To the seller it's a blessing. To the agents it's more commission. To the lender it smells like the "F" word. Why would the lender flag this for review and what can you do about it? Since I am the one who gets the flagged files I can help you out a bit. This is not an automatic denial and in fact not going to be happening as much as it did a few months ago but it will still happen. As I am typing this there is a file in underwriting at my office very similar to this situation.

If the listing price is lower than the sales price and there was only one offer you'll likely have a problem. The first thing I think of in quality control is kickback - cash back at closing on a purchase. If you've read my AR blog for long you'll know exactly where I stand on this one. I'm not talking about the ones where a licensed agent gives part of their earned commission back at the table I'm talking about the ones where thousands or tens of thousands of dollars are given to the buyer directly from the proceeds of the loan. However, this may not be the case.

If your deal gets flagged by the lender for this issue what they must see to be convinced otherwise is the DOCUMENTATION supporting multiple offers also over the listing price. Just having one or two offers around, under or slightly over the listing price is not going to convince me this is a valid offer. Even if the property value is supported in that range it's the listing price to sales price you are going to have to overcome. 

Further - if the property has been on the market for some time or even previously listed then put back on the market that also is going to be an issue if the sales price is markedly higher than the listing price. Generally we will not accept a letter of explanation from the agent(s), buyer or seller but we will always consider the actual documentation with copies of the multiple offers.

Otherwise what you can expect will be for the lender to (a) deny the application for the loan or (b) offer to lend the listing price and a reasonable margin (for example's purpose only) of no more than 10% increase above the listing price.

THIS IS NOT CARVED IN STONE but it is something you need to be aware of as an agent, seller and buyer. The one thing that will never work is screaming, no matter how loud or profane it is, at the underwriter. 

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I started writing on Active Rain in 2006 when I was representing the mortgage industry. I am no longer in that industry and many of the older posts contain outdated information. Please do not contact me for LENDING or MORTGAGE questions but rather contact a licensed mortgage professional from your area. I have always been in marketing and branding and that is still what I do. Thanks for reading!

Comments(5)

Teri Eckholm
Boardman Realty - White Bear Lake, MN
REALTOR Serving Mpls/St Paul North & East Metro
Ken--The red flag is understandable based on so many of the problems and creative financing that has been out there during the past few years. Good explanation for those who weren't aware.
Nov 03, 2007 06:44 AM
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!
Ken- Thanks for the heads up. Here in Florida there is widespread scamming going on, I am writing a post about it and they are arresting the scammers too. Katerina
Nov 03, 2007 06:35 PM
Donna Yates
BHGRE - Metro Brokers - Blue Ridge, GA
Blue Ridge Mountains
Ken:  Good to know. I think underwriters are like umpires, there's no need to argue with them, they have the final say.  I know buyers sometimes roll their closing costs into the loan.  How does this work with an underwriter?  What's the best way to handle something like that?  Maybe you can write a short blog about it.  Thanks.
Nov 04, 2007 01:13 AM
Thomas Weiss
Thomas R. Weiss - West Palm Beach, FL

Ken,

I see it! It's just becoming common.

Tom Weiss

Nov 04, 2007 01:16 AM
Ken Cook
Content, coding, marketing, host. - Marietta, GA
Content Marketer/Creator

Teri - it's not that common in today's market but I have on on my desk now where the listing price was 88k and the contract price is 105k on a property that honestly is worth at least 145k. The borrower is an investor so it's a good deal for him, I just need to see the proof that other offers were made between 88 and 105.

Katerina - Good to hear! Florida and Texas have been inundated with cash back offers. I will be reading that posting! 

Donna - we have guidelines for how much we will allow the seller to contribute to closing and the number is generally between 2% and 6% of the loan amount.

Thomas - it's just coming to light. We have always considered this even in the explosive growth market.

Thank you all for commenting! 

Nov 04, 2007 02:22 AM