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Florida Mortgage | Short Sales do not always mean that the Realtor does not get paid!

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Real Estate Agent with THE PODGURSKY GROUP @ Re/Max Direct

After reading a lot about short sales and those people that love or loathe them, one theme keeps coming up that makes me understand new topics for Continuing Education that would be exceedingly timely right now.

So many Realtors show their clients short sale or bank owned properties just to see the Mortgage Broker, Bank, Title Attorney and Buyer's personal attorneys get paid... but the Realtor either sees their typical commission cut dramatically or sees it disappear altogether.  It doesn't always happen, but it is not uncommon!

First of all, complaining about it isn't helping anything or anyone.  It just turns off your clients that may be interested in that deal because it is the perfect home for them and the only one currently on the market in that neighborhood or of that model! 

Also, saying you'll NEVER do a Short Sale is just cutting off your nose to spite your face in this market.

You can't always expect 3% on every deal. 

As a Mortgage Broker, I am used to my compensation fluctuating.  Just the market fluctuations themselves can create a last minute adjustment in my compensation.

Sometimes the pay off numbers on these short sale transactions are just too tight.  Between multiple bank liens, HOA liens, IRS Tax Liens, State Tax Liens and selling expenses including remediation and repairs, the margin on these properties are very low.  The banks understand they're going to lose money... but they also know what they're willing and able to lose

That's where Realtors need to get wise on the subject of "how low can you go!"...

Short Sale transactions really aren't like a Limbo contest... but the allusion is very applicable.  At some point, EVERYONE falls under that pole.  Just the best Limbo dancer usually never has to show how low they really can drop.

So we're seeing people enjoying Short Sales and people hating them... because some Realtors are willing to go lower!  They understand that the "traditional" 3% commission is an industry benchmark on listed properties purchased conventionally. 

Short Sales are unconventional.

So... this is where the best and most experienced Realtors and their supportive Brokers step in to make a move that keeps the bar from dropping that next level.

How?

First of all, If you have someone buying Short Sales, they're shoppers.  Get them into some level of a Buyer's Agency Agreement.  If you really do have great deals on great properties to show them, they will reward you with their loyalty in BLUE ink.

Second of all, you should have a new Buyer's Agency Agreement drafted for short sale commissions much like traditional Commercial Real Estate Agents use... including a Minimum Commission clause.

My first commercial real estate broker stated that every listing agreement had to have a percentage AND minimum fee spelled out in a dollar amount. 

  1. So I would take a lease listing for 6% with 3% for the cooperating agent - the Tenant Rep
  2. I would take 5% if I brought the tenant as well
  3. I would take a minimum (per house rules!) of $1500 commission

Why? 

Well... most lease listing agreements were advertised for 3 or 5 years.  But what if 3% of a one year lease with extension options was only $800???  Then we had to agree on that bottom dollar number...especially if we had to split it!

So...my advice is when you are working with Short Sale Buyers, write a Buyers Agency Agreement and explain carefully something like this:

In most cases, I will receive my full compensation from the Seller.  In some cases, the negotiation of the short sale will make it impossible for me to receive my full commission.  In this case, the Buyer agrees to pay at closing (on the HUD) the difference in the commission paid by the bank and 3% of the purchase price... The most that the buyer will be responsible to pay will be $X.

note: this is a suggestion, I am NOT an attorney - and neither are you - so get a real attorney to write this for you.

At this point, you let them know what the maximum will be out of their pocket.  Remember, unless they are using a Hard Money Loan, they will likely have to pay you out of pocket... a Hard Money Loan may allow them to wrap closing costs into the financing. 

So since it is cash that they are spending, show them you're willing to cut the number down to make it agreeable for all parties... show them how low you can go.

Armed with a valid (have your attorney check the agreement before using it!) Buyer's Agency agreement with commissions spelled out, you are sure to get paid a fair commission on your Short Sale transactions...

and a paid Realtor is a happy Realtor!

Read more about Short Sales in Florida by following this link Florida Mortgage | Short Sales & Bank Owned Properties


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Comments (8)

David A. Podgursky PA
THE PODGURSKY GROUP @ Re/Max Direct - Boynton Beach, FL
THE PODGURSKY GROUP - Make the Right Move!
ps... make sure to make copies of this agreement and get it to the title attorneys and the mortgage broker to include in their paperwork!  That will be your safety net to getting paid!
Nov 04, 2007 03:31 AM
Renée Donohue~Home Photography
Savvy Home Pix - Allegan, MI
Western Michigan Real Estate Photographer

We were chatting about this in our mastermind group on Friday.

I am not huge on short sales and it has nothing to do with commission.  It has to do with how good the listing Realtor is as far as getting the package submitted prior to an offer coming in so we don't have to wait months and months and even sometimes you still have to wait!

As far as commissions go, one member of our group drafted a letter for REOs and short sales that I think we should be making mandatory in our listings and offers.  It isn't about protecting our commissions or setting a "standard" (illegal) but educating the banks about what is going on with commissions in our market.  It was recommended to submit MLS listings/new construction flyers that are above what the banks generally feel is fair. as far as commissions go.

Nov 04, 2007 04:42 AM
Thomas Weiss
Thomas R. Weiss - West Palm Beach, FL

David,

This is a Great Post!!! I follow alot on Short Sales.

Tom Weiss

Nov 04, 2007 04:54 AM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital
David, we're not seeing many short sales, but out boiler-plate buyer agency agreement have the buyer making up the difference between a less than agreed to commission in the buyer broker agreement.  
Nov 04, 2007 04:58 AM
Richard Zaretsky
THE ZARETSKY LAW GROUP - Board Certified Real Estate Atty and AUTOMATED LAND TITLE COMPANY - West Palm Beach, FL
Florida Real Estate Attorney

Good Post David and thanks for joining!

You raise an often forgotten or overlooked point.  On the Buyer side for short sale transactions you always have a buyer that is pressuring the deal downward - you do the negotiations and next you know you negotitiated away a good part of your commission!

A Buyer's Premium, like in an auction, or your suggested Buyer Agreement for Compensation are terriffic and necessary ways to ensure that the Buyer Broker is getting paid - by the lender or by the Buyer.

On the Seller side, if there are 2 commissions involved (Buyer and Seller brokers) the Seller Broker needs the same protection.  The Seller Broker should condition the listing on this type of arrangement - where the Buyer is protecting a fixed commission and makes up any shortfall.

Creating the shortfall protection could actually make some short sales work where they otherwise wouldn't because of negotiation problems with the lender(s).

Richard Zaretsky, Esq., RICHARD P. ZARETSKY P.A. ATTORNEYS AT LAW, 1655 PALM BEACH LAKES BLVD, SUITE 900, WEST PALM BEACH, FLORIDA 33401, PHONE 561 689 6660  RPZ99@FLORIDA-COUNSEL.COM - FLORIDA BAR BOARD CERTIFIED IN REAL ESTATE LAW - We assist Brokers with Short Sales

Nov 04, 2007 07:33 AM
Bill Roberts
Brooks and Dunphy Real Estate - Oceanside, CA
"Baby Boomer" Retirement Planner

David, I think that we are quickly getting to the place where every real estate transaction will be handled this way, not just short sales. Buyer's Agent agreements should be mandatory, and the buyer should fully expect to be responsible for paying for his own agent.

Minimum commissions are also a very important part of any commission agreement.

This is a timely subject.

Bill Roberts

Nov 06, 2007 07:07 AM
Chrissi Zaccheo Ewing
RealtyOneGroup Engage - Jensen Beach, FL

I unfortunately, am going to list a short sale. Not in the fact that I don't like them. Honestly I have not handled one yet. But it is a person very close to me and that hurts. Thank you for the other links I need to learn more about this.

 

Nov 07, 2007 01:26 PM
David A. Podgursky PA
THE PODGURSKY GROUP @ Re/Max Direct - Boynton Beach, FL
THE PODGURSKY GROUP - Make the Right Move!

renee - thanks for the input - that's a good idea

tom - thanks

patricia - I hope you see more - better than foreclosure sales!

richard - thanks for starting the group and great advice... now we know who to call when we have a short sale question that we need to refer to an attorney!

bill - the problem is that the BANK controls the deal... which is questionable at best.  I think that they should just submit to a standard commission - whatever is customary in the market.  News on Palm Beach County came back recently that the average commission is up from 5.1% to 5.4%, signs that the discounters are fading... but if they pick the average sales commission, 5.4% or 2.7% each way isn't that big a knock to take to get a deal done - just 10% less... 90% of something!

Chrissi - I am glad for your clients... I am sorry for their trouble but glad they are getting someone to help them.  The hardest part was to be brave enough to contact you... when I moved into my house 3 yrs ago I let all my neighbors know what I do.  I told one of them that I could help him with a refi/heloc and help fix his credit.  About 2 months ago he went into foreclosure because he just wouldn't ask for the help...

Nov 07, 2007 01:49 PM