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Hello, my name is Andrea and I am an alarm-a-phobe...

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Real Estate Agent with Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices New England Properties Licensed in Connecticut

alarm system panic buttonThe alarm system conundrum. To give out the code or not give out the code, that is the question.

I have one opinion on this conundrum, and one opinion only. Do not give out the code. I don't care if you have been an agent forever, if you have a halo, I am not giving you the code! I don't want the code when I show a house, I don't want the responsibility of trying to find the control panel and get the right code in without setting off the alarm. When faced with a house alarm I get all queasy and weak in the knees. I hate them. I don't hate what they do, but I just don't like them.

So, here I sit at a house that I am hoping to list. We are going over the pro's and con's of the home, the home owner beaming, tells me there is a very good alarm system. They are proud of it! It surly will be a great selling feature! My heart sinks... this means I have to learn yet one more alarm system and be there for all showings to open the door for the potential buyer. That is unless of course I find out they might be proud of the system, but they never use it. Or they have other arrangements in mind for showings. But it is my responsibility, together with the home owner, to come up with a plan that does not include giving out any codes to anyone, yet make the home available for showings.

A few days ago I was setting up showings for a buyer. One house had an alarm system, the agent proudly announced that the instructions were in the electronic lock box. (at least it was electronic and not push button or combo.. yikes!) My response to the agent elicited something I was not expecting. I said I would not shut off the alarm, I asked the agent to open the house for me. The agent had no intention of opening the house for us, it was my job to shut off the alarm code at her client's house. We were deadlocked. Who would win? Turns out we declined the showing for other reasons, crisis averted.

NOT in my book. I will not be responsible. I don't make other agents responsible at my listings. My home owners have not been comfortable with this idea either. I can see it now, someone breaks into the house and it will be the last man in that gets blamed.

bulldogYes indeed, the old alarm system conundrum, it is a thorn in my side for sure. It ranks right up there with those friendly dogs that never bite running around the house, the agent telling you they are friendly as friendly can be. NEXT...

Are you an alarm-a-phobe? Do you give out alarm codes over the phone to get in your listings? Do you place the codes and instructions to disarm in the lock box? As a listing agent, how do you handle this? As a buyers agent, what do you do?

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Andrea Swiedler, Realtor, Southern Litchfield County Real Estate

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Mike Bolaski
Coldwell Banker - 1000 Palms, CA

My feeling is that if you're trying to sell your home....then disable the alarm for the duration of the listing. It's just too much of a hassle and a liability on YOU the seller. If the alarm gets set off by accident it costs you a pretty penny from the alarm company.

Not to mention it's just a pain in the ass.

I had an agent list the alarm code in the MLS with all these detailed instructions on how to disable it. We walk in and right away I'm searching for the box. Wasn't by the front door anywhere, so I'm frantically rushing around the house trying to find this thing so I can disable it before it's too late. Long story short....the seller's had removed the alarm system several days before and never bothered to tell their agent!! (short sale, sellers had just moved out)

Dec 16, 2011 12:13 AM
Jennifer Allan-Hagedorn
Sell with Soul - Pensacola Beach, FL
Author of Sell with Soul

I love it when the instructions say: "If it's on, turn it off, here's how." Um... I'm not an alarm expert, how am I supposed to know if it's ON or not? And if it's NOT on and I punch buttons, did I just turn it on?

When a potential buyer walks into a house, they form an impression pretty quickly. If that first impression is that their agent is a nervous wreck (which I usually was) trying to make sure the alarm doesn't go off, it DOES make a difference to the overall ambience!

I'm with you. Leave it off.

Dec 16, 2011 12:54 AM
June Piper-Brandon
Coldwell Banker Realty - Columbia, MD
Creating Generational Wealth Through Homeownership

I am alarm a phobe too.  Inevitably I set off the alarm and end up waiting for the police to come.  I do have sellers who have a separate alarm for showings, some who will turn off the alarm for showings electronically, some have cameras that they can access remotely so they know when someone has been and after they leave reset the alarm. 

Dec 16, 2011 12:58 AM
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Andrea, I would say don't give out the code. It is the same as giving out your lockbox code to everyone.

Dec 16, 2011 01:02 AM
Ron Tarvin
Residential, Investment properties, rehab projects, property management, luxury homes, new construction! - Katy, TX
Broker, Katy, Houston, Cypress 77450,77494,77095

I don't like to show homes with alarms set either...it's a 50/50 proposition as to actually getting the dang thing to do what it's supposed to the first time, even if you DO have the codes and instructions!

However, some people insist on having that alarm on. On newer alarm systems, you can often have TWO codes.  They can set up one code for the REALTOR® that does not work past 8pm to disarm the system.  If someone tries to enter with the agent code after hours, so to speak, it will not work.  

I'm not sure about "not giving out the code" though...we willingly give agents unfettered access to these homes when an alarm is not present (through the use of a lockbox, usually electronic, which is just a device that substitutes for inputting a code) so I'm not seeing MORE responsibility present when there is an alarm.

Great topic that I've never seen discussed on AR and it's a very important one when showing homes!

Dec 16, 2011 01:48 AM
Mike Dobbins
Realty ONE Group - Cave Creek, AZ
Scottsdale, Cave Creek, Carefree

Oh I start to sweat every time I have to go show a home with an alarm set.

Dec 16, 2011 02:34 AM
Paula Bradfield
Bradfield Ramsey Group - Salida, CO
Your Salida Colorado area Realtor Team

The most important lesson I learned from your post is that giving out that code compromises their security system. In a way, so do lockboxes. I will have to be with this one because I also know that "easy to show" is critical with an over supply of homes and undersupply of buyers in my area.

Dec 16, 2011 03:05 AM
Mike Cooper, Broker VA,WV
Cornerstone Business Group Inc - Winchester, VA
Your Neighborhood Real Estate Sales Pro

Andrea, I had never thought about this until now.  Fortunately, any listings I've had with alarms, the sellers left them off during the lisitng period. 

Dec 16, 2011 03:19 AM
Patricia Beck
RE/MAX Properties, Inc., ABR, GRI, SRES - Colorado Springs, CO
Colorado Springs Realty

I really hate dealing with alarm systems when showing a home and never thought about the potential liability that may be involved. 

Dec 16, 2011 07:06 AM
Myrl Jeffcoat
Sacramento, CA
Greater Sacramento Realtor - Retired

Andrea - I am a self-admitted Alarm-a-Phobe.  The last house I closed escrow on, was loaded to the hilt with alarms.  There were security alarms.  And there were alarms on all doors leading in to the backyard, to alert there were toddlers going in the vicinity of the pool.  You name it and that house had it.  During the home inspection, the inspector, an appraiser and I were continually setting off alarms accidentally.  Out of frustration, I finally blurted out, "If I owned this house, a burglar would just have to have his way with me, because there is no way I could live sanely with all that racket going on all the time!"  The appraiser laughed, but the home inspector shuffled off to another room. . .LOL

Dec 16, 2011 12:47 PM
J. Philip Faranda
Howard Hanna Rand Realty - Yorktown Heights, NY
Associate Broker / Office Manager

Here's my alarm. No pin code, no malfunction, and many other fringe benefits other than security and safety. 

Furry security system

Dec 16, 2011 03:33 PM
Yvonne Wilder
Halter Associates Realty - Woodstock, NY

I've had listings with alarms and shown some with alarms.  Not my favorites.  Finding the box (or remembering where it is if you've shown the place before) can be challenging - there is usually an obstacle course like multiple entry doors (outside, mudroom, etc.) that are locked with keys that can stick, and then you have to run around the long kitchen island in the middle of the room and out into a hallway, or down a long hall to the other end of the house . . . Sigh.  Usually it's buyers who really have an interest in that particular home, so it works out.

For one of the listings with an alarm, the owner was no longer living in town, another agent set off the alarm, and the police called me - 20 minutes away - to go reset it.  Got there and the danged thing was hooked up to a megaphone contraption that blared the alarm noise interspersed with the owner's voice screaming the names of the neighbors and yelling HELP!  That other agent was long gone and I couldn't get the e-box and doors open fast enough!

Because our listings can go out to anyone in a number of fashions, I would never put an alarm code in the MLS.  And would not put it or instructions in an electronic lock box, even attached to keys.  How often have things gone missing from those boxes?????  And if a wadded up piece of paper gets stuck and jams the  box so no one can get into it, then what?  Happy to accompany with advance notice or allow another agent to open for their buyers, depending on the seller's wishes.  Either is fine with me. 

And loved some of these stories!

Dec 17, 2011 12:53 AM
Marnie Matarese
DWELL REAL ESTATE - Sarasota, FL
Showing you the best of Sarasota!

I'm with you Phil..... here is my alarm system.  But, seriously, alarm systems are the least of my worries in trying to sell a house.  If it has an alarm system and it is armed, the agent showing it gets the code.  If the owner does not want the code given out I have them disarm it.  There are so many other obstacles to gaining entry to listings these days that I just try my best to get as many people through my seller's home as possible.  "What if's" are crippling scenarios and I have never had an issue.

Dec 17, 2011 01:04 AM
Sharon Paxson
Sharon Paxson, Realtor® EQTY Forbes Global Properties - Newport Beach, CA
Newport Beach Real Estate

HI Andrea - agents are not supposed to put code in the MLS - but I still see that . I am uncomfortable with alarms as well. I was showing homes last weekend and one had an alarm - made sure it was all highlighted so I wouldn't miss it. Then clients decided they didn't want to see - relief!

Dec 17, 2011 03:42 AM
Teral McDowell
Referral Patners LLC - Murphy, TX

Great post, Andrea, I have set off one alarm thus far and it's not a nice feeling. I really don't care for the responsibility either.

Dec 18, 2011 02:53 AM
Steve, Joel & Steve A. Chain
Chain Real Estate Investments & Mortgage, Steve & Joel Chain - Cottonwood, CA

Andrea,

It appears the "alarm bell" has gone off on this great topic of conversation. Congratulations on your feature.

Wishing you a wonderful week without ANY unpleasant alarms.

Steve

Dec 18, 2011 11:21 AM
Bob & Leilani Souza
Souza Realty 916.408.5500 - Roseville, CA
Greater Sacramento Area Homes, Land & Investments

Andrea, I admit that I am an alarm-a-phobe myself! I also don't want the responsibility of dealing with an alarm code...I'd rather the alarm simply be turned off for showings if the listing agent won't be present. :)

Leilani

Dec 18, 2011 04:02 PM
Dale Taylor
Re/Max 10 New Lenox Illinois http://dtaylor.remax.com - Frankfort, IL
Realtor = Chicago Illinois Homes Townhomes Condos

Nice pictures of the 4-legged alarms.  You amused me!

Jan 14, 2012 05:29 PM
Dale Taylor
Re/Max 10 New Lenox Illinois http://dtaylor.remax.com - Frankfort, IL
Realtor = Chicago Illinois Homes Townhomes Condos

Nice pictures of the 4-legged alarms.  You amused me!

Jan 14, 2012 05:31 PM
Dale Taylor
Re/Max 10 New Lenox Illinois http://dtaylor.remax.com - Frankfort, IL
Realtor = Chicago Illinois Homes Townhomes Condos

Nice pictures of the 4-legged alarms.  You amused me!

Jan 14, 2012 05:32 PM