Are You a Cannibal? Cannibalism in Online Marketing

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Do You Own More Than One Website? (ActiveRain doesn't count.)

Yes? Then this is for you!

Okay, a little marketing 101 to start off: When Crest decides that they want a larger market share of the toothpaste market, they try and come up with a new product to attract additional market share.

So they come up with Crest Tartar-Control. Personally, I think this is the dumbest thing in the world, because... Well, why in the heck would anybody want to buy regular Crest when there is a tartar-control version available right next to it? Do some people want tartar? It's stupefying when you think about it.

So Crest doesn't get any additional market share; instead, they cannibalize their own brand. That is to say, they spend a bunch of money trying to get new buyers, and meanwhile, all they succeeded in doing was getting some people to switch from regular Crest. Tartar -control Crest is a cannibal.

From Answers.com: In marketing, cannibalization refers to a reduction in the sales volume, sales revenue, or market share of one product as a result of the introduction of a new product by the same producer.

How This Applies To Realtors with Multiple Sites:

Although everything about the Google algorithm is "secret", most search engine experts agree that Google looks at who owns a site and where it is hosted on this big blue marble.

Makes sense, right?

So again, when Google indexes your page, they also index the name of the page owner and the domain host's I.P. address, using a service called WhoIs.

If you visit WhoIs.net you can put in your own website address and see your name, address, probably your home phone number... All kinds of neat stuff. Try it on any domain you'd like. You can get the email address of the big cheese in charge, direct phone numbers, even the name of their hosting company.

So, if you have 4 sites about Orange County Real Estate, all registered to you, and all hosted by the same company (which means it is extremely probable that all of your sites have the same host IP address) --- do you really think Google doesn't know this?

If you have 4 sites about Denver Real Estate and all are registered by the same guy or gal and hosted with the same hosting company, you will not do as well in Google if you just had one super-site. After all, you know you need unique content for each site... So you must be dividing your energies, right?

Remember: The Google algorithm is far too sophisticated to be outsmarted by even the smartest Realtor or mortgage broker.

1. If you have multiple domain names, register them under different names. Not fake names. Just "give them away" to all of your (married) sisters. It will keep you from being identified as a search engine spammer.

2. Host each domain name with a different company. This will mean that you will have four websites-- all with different IP addresses. Do you really think Google is impressed that there are 5 Phoenix mortgage websites, all hosted with a Phoenix company (goDaddy.com), all registered with GoDaddy.com and all owned by the same guy? That is a great way to be identified as a black-hatter.

3. But the best advice of all: Retire all but your best website. Keep a blog on ActiveRain and have one website under your name, about a particular topic, in the Google index. I only have one site: www.azwm.com and the last time I checked, I was number one for Arizona mortgage in Google. I don't have more than one website for National Wholesale Mortgage.

I hope this makes sense. Any questions?


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SEO Expert: Michael George
Phoenix, AZ
Real Estate and Law Firm SEO

SETH-- I can't say for certain.  Remember, most of this stuff is theory.  Well, actually all Google SEO is theory, no matter what anybody tells you.

It sounds like your issue is site design.  Why don't you keep the first one with Voda and host the second one with alamode.com (which has an awesome, easy-to-use interface for building sites) or try Point2agent, which I personally think is much more difficult to use than AlaMode, but to each his own.   

Nov 13, 2007 02:54 AM
SEO Expert: Michael George
Phoenix, AZ
Real Estate and Law Firm SEO
Ann-- heck no you won't be penalized.  I own 600-and-some domain names.  All registered at GoDaddy.  That doesn't matter to Google at all, because those domain names are not "indexed."     
Nov 13, 2007 02:55 AM
SEO Expert: Michael George
Phoenix, AZ
Real Estate and Law Firm SEO

Hi Ann---

-- what are your thoughts about having different URLS/domain names pointing at the same site?

What do you mean by pointing?  Not trying to be a smart alec here, but I have a certain definition of "pointing" and am afraid you mean something else.



-- what are your thoughts about a variety of domain names all hosted at the same place?  say for instance some of the domain names were bought through GoDaddy and point to the same site as in the first question...

Personally, I would never do that because if you have an account at GoDaddy, all of your sites have the same I.P. address in your account.  I use Bluehost.com, Godaddy, Winsave, and two others that I can't think of right now.  (Only one site is my mortgage site, but it makes the links coming from my others so much more reputable, because they are coming from other IPs.)


-- and my last question is like what Bryant asked - about the pointing of domain names, and does it matter if they point to a newer site or an older site, and why, if it does?

And so sorry, but I'm back to not understanding this question.  What does "point" mean to you and Broker Bryant?    This is what it means to me:

Domain Pointing

Nov 13, 2007 03:02 AM
Ann Cummings
RE/MAX Shoreline - NH and Maine - Portsmouth, NH
Portsmouth NH Real Estate Preferrable Agent

Hi Karen - by pointing, I mean that I have a website that has the domain name/URL of www.anncummings.com.  I also own www.anncummings.net or www.annecummings.com.  I have those URLS pointing to www.anncummings.com, so that if someone misspells my name or uses. net instead of .com, they still get to my site.  That's the kind of pointing I'm referring to.  Not sure if that's what Bryant meant or not, but I suspect it is from the way he asked the question.

I hope that's clear enough to show what I mean when I asked about pointing.   ;-)
Ann

Nov 13, 2007 03:07 AM
Anonymous
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Okay, from what you---and others are saying---it is okay to have a number of domains registered in one place--GoDaddy---but you should host them at different places to keep Google happy. 
Nov 13, 2007 03:10 AM
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SEO Expert: Michael George
Phoenix, AZ
Real Estate and Law Firm SEO

Ann-- I'm so sorry...  You were using the term the same way I was.  Like I said, I have just had a couple clients that meant something else.

There is nothing wrong with what you are doing.  In fact, thousands of companies do it for the exact same reason-- misspellings.  That's totally fine!

Nov 13, 2007 03:19 AM
Rachel Zeppinick
Sharma Estate Realty - Woodland Hills, CA
Woodland Hills Real Estate

Hello Karen,

I remember reading on one of your blogs suggestions to have multiple domain names, now I am confused, I know that domain names are not the same as websites but still....

 

Rachel Zeppinick

Nov 13, 2007 03:21 AM
SEO Expert: Michael George
Phoenix, AZ
Real Estate and Law Firm SEO

Hi Rachel---

I didn't mean to confuse.  I have multiple domain names because I buy them up like Real Estate.  I recently sold www.buyflowersonline.com for a very good price...  So I own lots of domain names, but I only HOST one domain that is about Arizona Mortgages.

Nov 13, 2007 03:23 AM
Bonner Thomason
Keller Williams Realty - Kernersville, NC
CRS, ABR, GRI, e-Pro

I also have several sites and several domain names. With goolgle changing their algorythims there has been a chalange that goes beyond content. i am considering also going to one site with the names that I have pointing to diferent pages.

Bonner

Nov 13, 2007 03:40 AM
Brian Burke
Kenna Real Estate - Lone Tree, CO
Broker & Advising Expert-Denver Luxury Real Estate
We had just tought about that. Thanks for clearing this up. We have some cleaning up to do... We also have several domain names pointing them to one site. Thanks for sharing this.
Nov 13, 2007 05:48 AM
Marchel Peterson
Results Realty - Spring, TX
Spring TX Real Estate E-Pro

Karen, Like Anne I have two very different sites that accomplish very different goals.  Our friend George kept bugging me about them both being in my name so I went in and changed one of the domain names over to my husands name.  I could not believe how easy it was to change.  There was a small fee but I still maintain everything exactly the same.  I had to fax them a picture ID so they could make sure I was legit but otherwise was a breeze.  My sites are hosted with two totally different companies so that one is taken care. 

Thanks again for the great advice!!

Nov 13, 2007 06:58 AM
Rey Gallegos
Supreme Lending (NMLS ID #2129) - Las Vegas, NV
FHA, VA, Home Loans Las Vegas, NV

Karen,

Being new to SEO, blogging, and web sites this information is invaluable!  Thank you.

Nov 13, 2007 07:49 AM
Michael I. Pulskamp
Mainstreet Brokers - Jackson, CA
REALTOR, EcoBroker, GREEN Desingnee

Karen,

Back before SEO and all this, google was a number, 10 to the 100 th power if I remember right. That is a 1 with 100 zeros behind it.

If I could give you that many points just for the SEO posts that you have shared with all of us I would!  Now, I can't even give you a five.

I only lately ran across you and your wonderful gifts to us, But thank you so very much.

Know that you are helping people all the time. And we are rooting for you!

If you do another seo blogging experiment I would be proud and thankful to be considered. I think that I am meandering along in the right direction, but I sure would like your help!

 

Mike 

Nov 14, 2007 07:06 AM
Robert Hammerstein -201-315-8618
Christie's International Real Estate - Hillsdale, NJ
Bergen County NJ Real Estate

Hi Karen,

I guess we'll be following everything more closely in the hopes of doing things to better accomplish our goals.  We thank you oh so very much for your generosity in the Rain and personally.   We wish you a very happy Thanksgiving.

Nov 17, 2007 01:26 AM
Armando Rodriguez
QUEST REALTY SERVICES - Orlando, FL
Orlando Homes 4 Sale, Real Estate Broker-GRI

Great post...I do have three sites. I'll be making changes.

Thanks for all you tips. And I hope your health is doing well.

Nov 17, 2007 05:19 AM
Sarah Eubanks
Hill Valley Financial Services - Oregon City, OR
Preferred Oregon Loan Consultant & Notary Public
Hi Miss Karen ~  So great to be reading your well thought out and informative posts.  I am so blesed to have such an intelligent friend.  When I get a little more caught up with some things, I will be giving you a call for some specific thoughts.  Hugs to you...  :)  Sarah
Nov 18, 2007 04:21 PM
Gary McNinch
Better Properties Real Estate - Renton, WA
Broker, Renton WA Real Estate

Karen,  Welcome Back.

Now my head hurts, I have separate pages on the same site for each area and each small housing development.  I have a couple of blogs that all point back or is it point forward?? to my main website.  I link and point out or in??? or is it up or down???  at?? toward??  at the main KW intl site and now I've widgeted and blidgeted youtubes.....  OH MY Goodness...

Actually I'm not sure where everything is registered until I get the request to renew and I am trying to get everyone to my homepage, www.RentonHomeFinder.com  where I have a blog off the front page.  Great post,

List and Sell, and have a wonderful Thanksgiving,

Nov 18, 2007 05:13 PM
Rita Taylor
None - Sanford, NC
Sanford NC Real Estate - Homes for Sale in Sanford North Carolina

Karen,

Thanks for the great advice!  As usual, I have part of this right and part is wrong - I will have to make some changes when renewing my hosting next year.

Nov 22, 2007 03:17 PM
Maggie Dokic | Miami, FL | 888.883.8509 X101
eXp Realty LLC - Miami, FL
GREEN, CDPE, SFR, Pinecrest | Palmetto Bay |
I always learn great stuff from you but you don't take me to the cleaners in exchange!  LOL  Thanks Karen.
Nov 29, 2007 06:09 AM
Patricia Beck
RE/MAX Properties, Inc., ABR, GRI, SRES - Colorado Springs, CO
Colorado Springs Realty
What a great post Karen. I've been hearing a lot of discussion about this lately.  "get more than one site so you can link them to each other and obtain more traffic and higher rankings in google."  I wasn't sure if multiple helped out rankings or not, so thank you for clarifying.  I only have one website and after reading this, am going to keep it that way!
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