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No More Short Sales

By
Real Estate Agent with KW Vaca Valley DRE #01412791

I know many people have had great luck with short sales.  And I know I haven't really given it a fair chance, but I hate short sales.  This is why; I've  had 3 different buyers try to purchase a short sale home and all 3 transactions have given me trouble. Here is what happened.  On the first short sale the process took so long my client got impatient.  But he stuck with it.  We went into escrow (big mistake) did a home inspection,  and found some major plumbing problems.  Since this was an "as is" property, my client felt it was too much to pay for in addition to other repairs that were needed.  So he backed out, and we initiated the cancellation.  The agent either refused to have the seller sign to return funds, or maybe the seller refused.  We almost went to small claims court a month later when they finally released the earnest money.  For the second short sale, I had learned my lesson and held my client's money until the bank approval of the sale.  In this case it took so long for the lender to respond that my client lost interest, and, once again, backed out.  At least I was still holding his check so that was much easier.  The third time everything was going very well.  The lender holding the first lien responded very quickly, then we waited for the second lien holder.  They took their sweet time and, in the end, refused to accept the deal sayingeven though they were getting a small sum, they weren't getting enough.  Now the way I understand it, if the property goes to foreclosure the lender in second position loses everything.  It didn't make sense that they would want to lose everything, but here we are.  We are in fact still working on this deal two weeks later, and maybe we will come up with an answer.  The cog in the wheel is the second lien holder. 

If nothing else I've learned some important tips.

1. Advise your clients this could take as much as 6 to 9 weeks for the lender to approve.

2. If there are two different lenders involved the lender in 2nd position could stop the entire process.  Try to work with just one lender on a short sale.

3.  Go the the 2nd lien holder first.  If they don't accept, it doesn't matter what the first says.

4. Hold the buyer's check in the file or your broker's file until acceptance.  That way the buyer is assured of getting their money back in case of a cancellation.

 

Vicky Poe
Good Ole Rocky Top - Crossville, TN
Realtor/ Auctioneer
I feel your pain.  I have a buyer that has been trying to buy a forclosure and the bank is dragging their feet.  I have a cash buyer that will close immediately.  The house has not been winterized and it is getting cold.  We are withdrawing our offer if the pipes freeze.
Nov 09, 2007 01:15 PM
Konnie Mac McCarthy
MacNificent Properties, LLC - Cobb Island, MD
Broker/Owner - VA & MD "Time To Get A Move On!"
I hear ya...I had the same experience...I see a short sale, and I make sure I explain to my buyer about the pros and cons of them..
Nov 09, 2007 01:16 PM
Terry & Bonnie Westbrook
Westbrook Realty Broker-Owner - Grand Rapids, MI
Westbrook Realty - Grand Rapids Forest Hills MI Re
I does take a lot of Patience and each of us have to make the decision if we and our clients want to go through the ordeal that the banks seem to think we need to go through. Now you have the deal and then just before closing they want to have us reduce our fees because they think we will and some of us do. The process is difficult but you need to protect everyone including yourself. Good luck so far I have tried to avoid them unless it is a local bank I can talk to.
Nov 09, 2007 01:19 PM
Todd Jones
Weichert Realtors - Hibble & Associates - Clarks Summit, PA

Vera,

 I appreciate your post and would like to provide a different point of view. I have made it a practice to go after listings of people in pre-foreclosure. If you dot your "i's" and cross your "t's" there is a lot of money to made. First of all you are helping the owners get out before it is too late. When you help them out, they tell everyone they know about you (bringing you more listings). This process also let you get close to someone who makes decisions with the bank. Getting a deal together can also bring more work (listings) from the bank in the future. i am not saying that everything is easy, but there are a lot of opportunities out there. Your tips are very good. buyers need to know up front that it may be a slow process.

Nov 09, 2007 01:26 PM
Mary Warren
Las Vegas, NV

I too feely your pain.  Short sales are a pain in the tush and the bank almost always ends up lowering the commission...making us do all the work, for next to nothing.  BUT with almost 50% of the houses in LV in short sales or foreclosure we have no choice.

Nov 09, 2007 01:28 PM
Lisa Bosques
Burien, WA

In our area there is a company that is great at negotiating short sales.  Their website is www.washfa.org.  They specialize in short sales and foreclosures.  They are sometimes the purchaser of these properties, but the interesting thing is that they are also available to realtors, and they will do all the paperwork and communication for a fee of 1.5%, which they say the bank usually pays for.  If the bank doesn't pay for it, it's negotiated out of the realtor's commission, but I am told that is rare.  They know how to prepare the research so that their file goes to the top of the pile.  I haven't used them, but I have seen their presentation and they seem like an excellent resource; plus, they have a very high success rate, and they can get everyone paid.

Maybe there is a group like that where you are located. Just for future reference. 

Nov 09, 2007 01:33 PM
Vera Gleason
KW Vaca Valley - Vacaville, CA
Determined to Move You in Solano County

Vicky, Konnie, Terry, & Mary,  Thank you for your words of understanding.  Sometimes it is just good to know others have been through the same thing.

Todd, I realize some have made a great living working with short sales.  And I do believe you are providing a service by taking on these clients.  It takes a special person to see these through.

Lisa, Thank you for the info.  I will look into it.  This may also be something to post as a blog.  I am sure a lot of agents would like to know about this service. 

Nov 10, 2007 09:33 AM