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NEW STAGERS - WORK FOR FREE AND FOR HOW LONG?

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Home Stager with Sensational Home Staging

New Stagers frequently email or call me asking to "shadow" me for jobs.  I get calls from interior design students as well that would like to complete hours towards their education and internship - and ask to tag along.  My policy is that I use only Stagers (not decorators or designers) - because it's too much for me to have to explain the principles behind what I do - staging is not decorating, yada yada.  But I have brought new people out many times - and it's a way for them to watch and learn and gain confidence.

Question I have is if you are one of the people that wants to shadow, how long do you do this and when is it the right time to ask to get paid?

There are people that will take advantage of "new" or "newer" stagers - and I hear about it and really get sort of upset for these new people that are being taken advantage of by an experienced Stager that is capitalizing on the abilty to get "free labor."

The goal behind shadowing is to LEARN - and watch what the more experienced Stager does, how they run a job, what they pack, how they handle the project, etc.  And after a few times out - you have learned enough to warrant earning some $$ for your time.  Do you deserve the top rate of whatever your market will pay?  No - but there is a point where you don't need to be free labor anymore.

I can't tell you the number of times I have heard from Stagers that are letting themselves be "used" by - and excuse me if I am stepping on toes here - but cheap, experienced Stagers.  If we are in this to make money, and are bidding jobs correctly, then there should be funds in the budget to pay people what they are worth.  A new person - their experience is their pay.  When they have some experience, pay them.

So - new Stagers - my advice if you do have the opportunity to shadow someone - make sure to ask these questions or consider these points:

1.  How many times do you have to go out with this experienced Stager before you get compensation? My recommendation is about 3 times.

2.  What sliding scale do they use in order to pay you?  It should start off with about 25% of what the market will pay and go up from there.

3.  At the point where you feel you are being "used" - you probably are.  It's time to ask for compensation.

4.  If the Stager balks at paying you - they are probably not looking at it past their ego - of the "privilege of having you shadow them" (which I have heard) - and you are better off working to build your own clientele or finding someone else to shadow.  No one is so great that they get free labor all the time.  That person is just cheap.

And Stagers out there that are willing to bring a new person alongside to mentor or help them gain some confidence - I applaud that effort.  You are helping to train on the job - and it can take extra time to explain the "how to" of a real job.  Just be willing to honor that new Stager with up front communication that clearly lets them know what you expect, what they can expect, and give them something to work towards besides "experience" - because I know that money is usually in the budget to pay these people once they have some experience and don't need 100% direction.

And if you are bringing out newbies on a job - at least treat them to lunch!  Make sure they have a good experience - even if things don't run perfectly. . . because you never know where the relationship will go.  That "new" person won't be new forever and will have their own sphere of clients that maybe they will share with you on jobs where you partner.  THAT is the goal too - finding those we can work with - and have fun in the process.

- Jennie

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Jennie Norris, ASP Master, IAHSP-Premier, SRS, REO, Owner & Principal Stager, Sensational Home Staging serving the Greater Denver region

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Maureen Bray Portland OR Home Stager ~ Room Solutions Staging
Room Solutions Staging, Portland OR - Portland, OR
"Staging Consultations that Sell Portland Homes"
Jennie ~ It's upsetting to hear that experienced stagers use Newbies multiple times and don't pay them.  My personal policy is to pay everyone, regardless of whether they're new.  The beginner stagers naturally earn less than experienced ones.  However I firmly believe that everyone's time is valuable and deserves compensation.  Even helpers who carry bins, or do dusting & ironing and other general staging tasks save me a lot of time so that I can concentrate on the more complex aspects of staging.
Nov 16, 2007 06:44 PM
Jennie Norris
Sensational Home Staging - Littleton, CO
Denver Regions Premier Home Staging Resource,

Hi Maureen,

This post was sort of lost in the shuffle - so I apologize for not writing back to you - and yes, it is not good when new Stagers are taken advantage of - and I applaud you for paying ALL people involved in your Staging projects! Good for you!  I know what comes around goes around.

One thing I neglected to mention above is that no matter who you bring out on a job - make sure they are INSURED and sign a WAIVER of release that protects YOU from both damage they might do to the house, AND damage they might do to themselves!  No matter if they are friends or colleagues or even family - PROTECT yourself from a possible "situation" with insurance and waivers.  If they do not have insurance, put them as an additionally insured on YOUR policy - so that again, if there is a "situation" it is covered.

- Jennie

Nov 18, 2007 06:55 PM
Julea Joseph
Reinventing Space - Chicago, IL
Julea Joseph House Stager - Reinventing Space

Jennie,

Another great post from you.  I've never heard of this in the Staging field, but hear about it all the time from my ID Interns when they are interviewing w/me.  They consistently speak to other Design firms that do not offer any compensation for their time as interns.

Nov 18, 2007 09:59 PM
Jennie Norris
Sensational Home Staging - Littleton, CO
Denver Regions Premier Home Staging Resource,
It is something that as more experienced Stagers stay in the market - the new ones want a chance to "learn" and apprentice with these more seasoned Stagers. There is nothing wrong with that in my book, but I do take exception when the new person is clearly being taken advantage of - with no pay for extended periods of time, and/or reduced pay when it's time to let them enjoy income.  Of course, some could say if the person is willing to work for free or just about for free, then why pay them - and I come from the school of thought of honoring those that work with us - and when the job has money in the budget to pay people for their time. - Jennie
Nov 26, 2007 02:35 AM
Joan Inglis, Master Accredited Staging Professional
Carolina Spaces, LLC www.CarolinaSpaces.com - Charlotte, NC
Home Staging, Model Merchandising, Interior Design
The help that a new stager can give an experienced stager is at least worth the price of their gas.  I don't like being used and I don't use people.  You can at lest slip them $20.   Joan
Apr 13, 2008 04:05 AM
Maureen Maureen
Orangeburg, NY
Jennie - The answer to your question is 3 years.  This is the alloted time that the IRS will allow a company to loose money and still provide a tax write off.  If you are loosing money for more than 3 consecutive years the IRS considers what you do a Hobby and as we all know hobbies are not tax deductible.  If you claim a loss for the 4th year your business will be red flagged for audit.  
Apr 13, 2008 06:25 AM