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Real Estate Agent with Century 21 Redwood DC-SP98366576

UPDATE: The continuing saga of a fat hand in a cookie jar. Now, from the highest point of Mount Wife, echoes of "Hmph, I told you so" will ring down on me.

I spent a couple more hours going back and forth with the couples lender. He had sent a letter over that included the terms  :purchase price $499,000. combined loan amount $419,500, CLTV 80%, qualifying rate up to 8%. Those terms were inside the typical "You have a pulse and if I can verify anything you told me during our phone call, you might get a loan" letter. The buyer's out of town dad was involved and he hit me with "Look, you're a father and I am a father. I just want to be sure my daughter is being protected." He was also the one that had to sign off on her dropping one hundred thousand dollars into the transaction.

So I ask the lender, " Can you splain to me, I am just a dumb agent, how 80% of $499,000 is $419,500? I just use a paper and pencil and arithmetic and I only come up with $399,200." He began that strange dance that occurs on a long distance call with most internet lenders. Problem was, I couldn't hear any music! He told me that he would have to get back to me.

I called one of my local boys and had him call the couple. He took an actual application and did whatever those lending people do with desktop underwriting. He called me back in 20 minutes. Things did not look good for the home team. The kids were deeper in debt do-do than they should be and there was no way they could get a loan for a rate better than 9.5% (and that was only if they paid off about $8,000 in collections). We chatted and did that behind the scenes planning of how the news should be broken to the couple. (don't fret, I had their permission to discuss all this stuff from them). I am the coward and prefer the white horse, so we decided that he would call, go over reality with them, offer to meet with them and assist them in how they can clean up their credit, so that in 3-6 months they will be in a better buying position.

Then, I called. I do my best to point out the good that has come of our first day together. They now know the truth about their situation. They have had a taste of what is available in their price range. They actually got to meet an agent in person and had all the disclosures about home buying explained to them. They now have an ally in the lending industry that will sit with them and help them get on a budget, pay off debt and what strategy to use with old creditors regarding the credit bureaus.

I called the agent that had the property listed and had been kind enough to send disclosures to let him know that we would not be writing and wished him well on the open house on Sunday.

I called the agent that placed the offer on the home that was dead and told her that we could not get an answer from the bank until tuesday. (my partner can deal with that one.)

I met the winterize fellow at the home and left him to lock up when he was done. Damn, one thing actually accomplished.

Driving home, my phone rang (did I mention I bought a new car and when the phone rings, you just hit a button on the steering wheel and everything comes out the radio? I don't know how they do it, but it is very cool) Well, it was her dad calling to thank me for today. He wanted to know if I would still represent them when they get their act together. I told him sure. (that guarantees they will be ready in early spring. my wife are I are booked for another trip then!)

At 10:30, I walked through the door and did my best father-knows-best impersonation "honey, I'm home". The lady of the house came around the corner, gave me a look and said "you probably didn't stop to eat, What's left of dinner is on the stove, you can heat that up. When you finish maybe you can tell me how early we leave in the morning." With a move that was more graceful than any Gene Kelly dance move, she plucked my phone from my hip, turned it off and dropped in her purse.

One day you will learn that I come first...if anyone has to wait, it will be those other people.

Sometimes, this is a very hard business.

Comments(12)

Sean Allen
International Financing Solutions - Fort Myers, FL
International Financing Solutions

Hey John,

Maybe that internet lender is using the "New Math". You know, that is the math that us older folks can't quite figure out that our kids learned in school.

Unbelieveable

Sean Allen

Nov 17, 2007 11:37 PM
Kris Wales
Keller Williams Realty - Lakeside Market Center - Macomb, MI
Real Estate Blog & Homes for Sale search site, Macomb County MI

John, you're one of the good guys.  I'm so glad this young couple had you looking out for them and their best interests.  It sounds like your wife is a keeper too :-)

 

Nov 17, 2007 11:38 PM
Jennifer Allan-Hagedorn
Sell with Soul - Pensacola Beach, FL
Author of Sell with Soul
Believe it or not, I actually  miss days like that. Makes you realize why you do what you do, even when it doesn't result in a paycheck. Selling real estate (competently!) is FUN!!!
Nov 18, 2007 12:05 AM
Missy Caulk
Missy Caulk TEAM - Ann Arbor, MI
Savvy Realtor - Ann Arbor Real Estate

Excellent job, John. It is better the couple have an accurate impression of their financial situtation. Good save.

Nov 18, 2007 12:11 AM
Frank Verna
Frank Realty - Jupiter, FL
Broker / Owner
Isn't that the new school of thought  where 2 plus 2 = 7? No wrong answers, isn't that right?
Nov 18, 2007 12:17 AM
Susan Haughton
Long and Foster REALTORS (703) 470-4545 - Alexandria, VA
Susan & Mindy Team...Honesty. Integrity. Results.

Ah, New Math...where it only matters how you FEEL about the answer.  ;-)

Great job, John...you sound as if you have the perfect wife for you to be in this line of business.  It takes a special breed!

Nov 18, 2007 01:01 AM
Simon Conway
Orlando Area Real Estate Services - Orlando, FL
She's a fine and very tolerant woman John. Please tell her I said hi and do have a wonderful Thanksgiving my friend.
Nov 18, 2007 01:10 AM
Kelly Sibilsky
Licensed Through Referral Connection, LTD. - Lake Zurich, IL
Your wife is very understanding!
Nov 25, 2007 12:45 AM
Elaine Hanson
Coldwell Banker Realty - Malibu | Topanga - Malibu, CA
REALTOR - Topanga, CA Real Estate Agent
I really enjoyed your story, John.  That's life in real etate!  Your wife is a gem.  I hope you had a wonderful time with your family this weekend.
Nov 25, 2007 03:45 AM
John MacArthur
Century 21 Redwood - Washington, DC
Licensed Maryland/DC Realtor, Metro DC Homes

Thank you all for sharing this moment in my life. I have just returned from the trip. My wife is a gem. She only reminded me two or three times that we did not leave on Saturday. In her defense, most of those reminders occured at the tale end of our midnite thursday to 9 am friday shopping excursion.

It was my idea. I thought it would be great fun. She agreed and was really into it until about 4am. Of course, being the sensitive guy that I am, we continued another 5 hours. I think that I am fortunate that she did not hit me with a brick. (Can anyone explain why old DVD's on sale for $2.86 seem like a great bargin at 530 in the morning?)

She enjoyed the finest of meals and the best of shopping. In turn, she rode along while I played the World Tour golf course and practiced her photography in Atalaya while I played with a friend at Arrowhead.

We listened to seasonal music on the drive home with only one more stop at the outlets in NC.

Today, everything is here that was here a week ago.

Life goes on and some of us are lucky enough to share that life with a "keeper".

Nov 26, 2007 05:28 AM
Simon Conway
Orlando Area Real Estate Services - Orlando, FL
Thanks for bringing us all up to date with the end of this story. As for the shopping trip - crazy!! We did ours from the comfort of a computer screen! Welcome back J-mac.
Nov 27, 2007 02:49 PM
R. B. "Bob" Mitchell - Loan Officer Raleigh/Durham
Bank of England (NMLS#418481) - Raleigh, NC
Bob Mitchell (NMLS#1046286)

Excellent story...I'm glad that you helped those people out.  All you agents out there...a local loan officer that you know and like is well worth a bit higher rate...I"ll let you in on a secret...most of the time, the local guy isn't any more expensive!

 

Bob Mitchell

ValueList Real Estate Services, Inc. 

Dec 04, 2007 03:24 PM