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For the Sake of Negotiating... Oh How Much Fun It Is to Ride

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with 3:16 team REALTY ~ Locally-owned Prosper TX Real Estate Co. #9001154

For the sake of Negotiating..... Lessons of Feet Dragging - yes, even in a Buyer's Market.


So, I've experienced the Lessons of Feet Dragging, Negotiating and Dragging just for the sake of Negotiating. It is not fun to witness buyers wanting to haggle just for the sake of haggling.

In the end, when the counter offer is not accepted and a new offer is introduced into the picture, it would be very disappointing when you lose the house, the house you've been talking about and the house you've been spending your time visualizing in.

So many times I wonder why buyers cant be serious? What could $2,000 mean in a $200K transaction or better yet, $2000 in a $500K transaction? Is it worth haggling?

ABSOLUTELY NOT! After evaluating the pros and cons of going back to the sellers for a tiny pricehaggle, in the grand scheme of things, it will not make a small pinch in the monthly payment,

WHY OH WHY DO YOU RISK ANOTHER OFFER COMING INTO THE PICTURE?

Do you know until it's signed and executed, you - the buyer is still vulnerable and that you have not secured anything yet.

And agents, don't come back to tell me how your clients will now pay the price they originally agreed on. It may be too late. The seller may have signed and executed the other offer. The seller may be upset about the haggle, the seller wants to deal with the other non-haggling buyer.

I've personally experienced 2 back-to-back negotiations where buyers lost because of Negotiation for the sake of Haggling.

 


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For the Sake of Negotiating... Oh How Much Fun It Is to Ride

Christine Ordze
Royal LePage Benchmark - Calgary, AB
ABR, CCS, ePro

Loreena, some buyers are just really focused on the price. We just have to prepare them before going into negotiations that this might happen and they'll need to decide to walk away. Playing games in a serious situation is never good. Thanks for the post!

Feb 06, 2012 01:08 AM
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Loreena, I'm from the old school where successful negotiations means a win-win. Some people think they don't win unless they come out ahead and get one over on the other. Negotiating is good, haggling is not.

Feb 06, 2012 01:36 AM
Justin Dibbs
Fairway Independent Mortgage - Ashburn, VA
Mortgage Advisor

I can be simply amazing how short sighted some home buyers are.  I ask buyers how upset they would be if they lost the home to another buyer over $2,000?  Most of the time, they say very upset and then it's usually pretty easy to convince them in the error of their thinking.  Sorry you're dealing with this right now.  Fortunatly I haven't had this problem pop up in quite a while.

Feb 06, 2012 02:03 AM
Brad Andersohn
Retired Executive Director of Education at eXp - Boulder Creek, CA
ActiveBrad - 707.646.1876

Loreena - in this economy I think there will be more haggling and penny pinching than ever before. 

It's good that there are great agents like you out there helping to educate others in local markets that often times it's a waste of time and energy.  Buyers also have a big concern that something better might come along and at a better price and therefore have a touch time committing and taking the plunge. 

They need YOU to show them the way and the ropes.  Great to know that there are people like you out there willing to take the time to educate them and then help them through the home buying and home selling process. 

Keep up the great work, I'm sure your clients and those about to be your clients really appreciate it!

Feb 06, 2012 02:07 AM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

As Barbara points out..there are some lesson in life that come with a premium...

Feb 06, 2012 02:15 AM
Lang Premier Properties
Lang Premier Properties - Clawson, MI
Metro Detroit Real Estate Group

buying a home definitely isnt easy...so many people dont realize this! They definitely dont want to mess around in the upcoming spring market.

 

Feb 06, 2012 02:47 AM
Anthony Daniels
Coldwell Banker - San Francisco, CA
SF Bay Area REO Specialist

When I encounter such buyers, I don't insist the 1st time.  Once they lose out on the house, which they pretended wasn't of so much interest initially, they then frantically beg me to change the outcome because they really, really want it.

The 2nd time around, they are usually on board with my advice, if not, I just suggest we part ways.  My last buyers that did just that, have missed out on 3 more homes since November, with their 3rd agent. 

Some people never learn.....others do.

Feb 06, 2012 03:46 AM
Maria Morton
Platinum Realty - Kansas City, MO
Kansas City Real Estate 816-560-3758

Loreena, buyers often lose the first house they want because they are listening to everyone but their agent. The second house, the tend to listen to their agent. (Or, as Anthony says, find another agent.)

Feb 06, 2012 04:05 AM
Christine Smith
Buyers Brokers Only LLC - www.BuyersBrokersOnly.com - Canton, MA
Exclusive Buyer Agent & Attorney, Canton, MA

Loreena...it is so true.  Usually I tell them to focus on the monthly payment - a couple of thousand over the course of a 30 year loan is not that much more per month.  Of course, if the Seller is refusing to budge at all & the buyer has come up a great deal, buyers will sometimes dig in their heels.

Feb 06, 2012 04:36 AM
Kristin Moran
Owner - RE/MAX Access - KristinMoran@Remax.net - San Antonio, TX
San Antonio,TX - Real Estate - 210-313-7397

A very hard lesson to learn.  I agree with what Christine said above.  HOpe you are doin gwell!

Feb 06, 2012 04:52 AM
Bill Gillhespy
16 Sunview Blvd - Fort Myers Beach, FL
Fort Myers Beach Realtor, Fort Myers Beach Agent - Homes & Condos

Hi Loreena,  I suspect that for many the idea of haggling is a little bit like " beauty ".  It is in the eye of the beholder and varies from case to case.  What is haggling to me may be risky and annoying to you.  A smart buyer/seller knows how to stay focused on the big issues.

Feb 06, 2012 05:16 AM
Gary Woltal
Keller Williams Realty - Flower Mound, TX
Assoc. Broker Realtor SFR Dallas Ft. Worth

The $2,000 in a $500K transaction borderlines on craziness, but never but craziness past people Loreena, as they will do it. Some people just get stubborn.

Feb 06, 2012 05:19 AM
Jim Cheney
Saint Francis Property Santa Rosa, CA - Santa Rosa, CA
Rincon Valley Realtor 707.494.1055

its just a personality thing that you cant control

Feb 06, 2012 05:33 AM
Valarie Swanson
CENTURY 21 Award - San Diego, CA
San Diego Real Estate

I think buyers and sellers start to take negotiaions personally as it gets down to the wire. Their pride often gets in the way of good business sense. It's in all of us, but we see it more often in our line of work.

Feb 06, 2012 05:43 AM
Bryan Robertson
Los Altos, CA

My rule of thumb with buyers is that they shouldn't waste time when the offer and asking price are within 1% of each other.  During negotiations, if we're within 1%, it's time to stop haggling and just get it done.

Feb 06, 2012 06:15 AM
Cherise Selley
Selley Group Real Estate, LLC - Colorado Springs, CO
Colorado Springs Realtor

Loreena,

The low interest rates eradicate any haggling over a few thousand dollars.  We agree with this assessment... g

Feb 06, 2012 10:17 AM
Kevin A. Guttman-Author, ReverseMortgageSpecialist
NMLS #384936 - Colorado Springs, CO
877-251-9709

This is so true, it amounts to less than $25/mo in the loan! People HAVE to win though!

Feb 06, 2012 10:42 AM
Donna Harris
Donna Homes, powered by JPAR - TexasRealEstateMediationServices.com - Austin, TX
Realtor,Mediator,Ombudsman,Property Tax Arbitrator

I just had a listing agent contact me today because her seller backed out of the contract with the other buyer. She was calling to see if we wanted back in the picture. My buyers didn't submit their offer when they found out it was multiple offers to deal with.  The buyers asked for 10 too many things, and now the seller wants to play with someone else.

Feb 06, 2012 12:26 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Loreena, too many buyers are reading the doom and gloom reports in the paper, then they get the old shockerooo!

Feb 07, 2012 01:56 PM
Holly Weatherwax
Associate Broker, Momentum Realty - Reston, VA
A Great Real Estate Experience

I have been on both sides of this issue.  For many, it is the thrill of the 'win.' I try to explain in a true negotiation both parties must feel like they 'won.'  Too often the competitive nature of the clients that I work with comes out and they cannot get their heads around how very little that $2,000 (or $500 or $5,000) means over the course of 30 years! I have had a number of clients miss out on the right house because they were stubborn.

Feb 07, 2012 11:28 PM