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For me – I ain’t buying the 8.3% unemployment rate released last Friday.

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us unemployment rate incorrect

 

For me – I ain’t  buying the 8.3% unemployment rate released last Friday.

 

There are 140M working people in the US and a 10% UER would mean 14M out of work

 

Last Friday’s monthly UER was 8.3% or 11.6M out of work. There are 4M that have left the workforce, given up, no longer looking for work and are not counted any longer in the unemployment (UE) figures. If those 4M were to jump back into the “actively looking” for work, if you added those folks back in – divided by the number of people in the work force it would show about a 12% UER.

 

Are they playing around with the numbers? It’s the “Bureau of Labour Statistics”, it’s supposed to be non-partisan, but it is the Dept of Labour --- Hilda Solis - - who works directly for Obama….Not Saying Anything. There is room for error, but not that much

 

How about the $20/hour people who are at least working somewhere for $12/hour until they get what they want – the “under-employed”. Add them into the equation and we may have an under-employed rate of closer to 20%  

 

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Wallace S. Gibson, CPM
Gibson Management Group, Ltd. - Charlottesville, VA
LandlordWhisperer

Ed * I agree * the FoxSnooze folks on the Kirby couch are some of the FEW who are actually delving into how these %s are calculated.

When you are OUT or UNDERemployed, your UNEMPLOYMENT is 100%

Feb 05, 2012 11:40 PM
Doug Dawes
Keller Williams Evolution - 447 Boston Street, Suite #5, Topsfield, MA - Topsfield, MA
Your Personal Realtor®

Those still unemployed and NOT receiving benefits are not counted in the 8.3%. The REAL unemploynet rate is closer to 20 %

 

Feb 05, 2012 11:41 PM
Ed Newman
Alamo Infrared, LLC - Midvale, UT

I totally agree, we are much worse off than we know of

Feb 05, 2012 11:43 PM
Ed Newman
Alamo Infrared, LLC - Midvale, UT

Keep in mind that the "gubmint" monthly jobs report is based on - - - Random Phone Calls to 3500 people

Feb 05, 2012 11:45 PM
Phil Leng
Retired - Kirkland, WA
Phil Leng - Retired

Hi Ed,

I agree with all the above.

The country is hurting.

Time for a change in the top spot.

Phil

Feb 05, 2012 11:49 PM
Lisa Von Domek
Lisa Von Domek Team - Dallas, TX
....Experience Isn't Expensive.... It's Priceless!

Good morning Ed,

There is some "funny" math going on with the unemployment numbers...Washington continues to play the shell game with the public.

Feb 05, 2012 11:51 PM
Ed Newman
Alamo Infrared, LLC - Midvale, UT

You're right Lisa - not funny but just plain fuzzy. I'm just not playing their game - we are so much smarter than they are

Feb 05, 2012 11:55 PM
Ed Newman
Alamo Infrared, LLC - Midvale, UT

Phil - I agree. It's pathetic of the leadership of this country

Feb 05, 2012 11:57 PM
Edward Gilmartin
CRE - Boston, MA

I recall when new jobs were repoerted when Reagan was president a lot of people screamed that they all were hamburger flipping jobs when they were not..now that they really are hamburger flipping jobs where are these same people?

Feb 05, 2012 11:59 PM
Ed Newman
Alamo Infrared, LLC - Midvale, UT

hamburger flippin jobs are too low for them now

Feb 06, 2012 12:02 AM
Edward Gilmartin
CRE - Boston, MA

The federal government is hiring like crazy. There is never a recession in Washington DC

Feb 06, 2012 12:37 AM
Ed Newman
Alamo Infrared, LLC - Midvale, UT

I was in DC last month - its incredible

 

Feb 06, 2012 12:42 AM
Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
REALTOR®, Broker

Thanks for sharing this great information.  I will be sure and pass it on to others

Feb 06, 2012 01:29 AM
Mike Carlier
Lakeville, MN
More opinions than you want to hear about.

I don't know what to say after the profoundness of the last comment:)  OK, I'll try.  ADP numbers are encouraging, and seem to back up the alleged untruths being told by the federal government.  Lest you think I'm an apologist for the current head of the executive branch, I do believe that he is losing his war on business.  He will take full credit for his loss and paint it as a victory.  No matter what the "true number" is, and I don't think anyone knows to a high degree of accuracy, we're dong better now than a year ago.

Feb 06, 2012 01:40 AM
Tom Braatz Waukesha County Real Estate 262-377-1459
Coldwell Banker - Oconomowoc, WI
Waukesha County Realtor Real Estate agent. SOLD!

Ed

Really good point. When you do the math it really does not add up to what they are saying

Mar 10, 2012 10:24 AM
James A. Browning
Browning Real Estate School/REO Institute - International, IT
MRE REOCertified(R) SSCertified

Thank you for sharing your blog; we need Real estate Professionals to share their comments and information regarding their markets and experiences. Thanks again from beautiful Colorado

Jun 07, 2012 06:04 AM
Edward Gilmartin
CRE - Boston, MA

Since Obama has become President a record 5 million Americans have gone on Social Security Disability....just a coincidence...and these folks are not considered unemployed any longer....and get a monthly check for life.

Jun 07, 2012 10:12 AM
Carl Winters
Canyon Lake, TX

Seems the new norm is "fuzzy math" in more ways then one. Please tell us the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Not only are we getting "fuzzy math" figures but some brand new words to describe current events.

 

Jun 30, 2012 08:33 AM