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COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT ON YOUTUBE

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Real Estate Agent with Charles Rutenberg Realty Inc. 516-575-7500 NRDS ID#641625055

COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT ON YOUTUBE

I'm always so fanatical about adhering to copyright infringement laws that I was really upset to see the following message, copied directly from Youtube, twice this month on videos I posted:

 

 Your video may include the following copyrighted content:

Acknowledged claims
  • Musical Composition administered by:
    Music Publishing Rights Collecting Society

What does this mean?

Your video is still available worldwide. In some cases ads may appear next to your video. Please note that the video's status can change, if the policies chosen by the content owners change. Learn more about copyright on YouTube.

This claim does not affectyour account status.

I believe this copyright claim is not valid.


If you do not agree with this copyright claim, you have the right to appeal. By clicking on the above link, the following choices appear:


I believe this copyright claim is not valid because:

I own the CD / DVD or bought the song online.

I'm not selling the video or making any money from it.

I gave credit in the video.

The video is my original content and I own all of the rights to it.

I have a license or written permission from the content owner to use this material.

My use of the content meets the legal requirements for fair use or fair dealing under applicable copyright laws.

The content is in the public domain or is not eligible for copyright protection.

 

In due time, you'll hear from the Youtube people again with their decision as to the matter.

Dear j,

GoDigital for a third party has reviewed your dispute and released its copyright claim on your video, "MERRICK MANOR TOWNHOUSES & SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.mp4". For more information, please visit your Copyright Notices page

Sincerely,
- The YouTube Team

The copyright claim for one of my videos was released. It appears to have been a mistake. I used a free music selection offered by Flip Video to accompany the above footage, and as soon as they were able to verify this, it was no longer a problem.

 

The 2nd copyright claim is for a video I made of my daughter's high school choir singing at their Winter Performance. I'm still awaiting a decision. I have no personal contact information on this video and have not made any money off it. Perhaps, it will help if I include the composers of each number that was represented in this concert. I was unaware that this was necessary.

Sanford H. Calhoun High School Music Department Winter Concert 2011

 

If anyone has any experience with this sort of thing, I'd very much appreciate your advice.

 
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Jill Sackler

 

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Comments(42)

MaryBeth Mills Muldowney
TradeWinds Realty Group LLC - Braintree, MA
Massachusetts Broker Owner

Very good post, I think many times it just takes someone stating that the copyright is wrong.  Many thanks, important information

Feb 16, 2013 10:52 PM
David Knox
David Knox Productions, Inc. - Minneapolis, MN

Copyright infringement can be simplified in a couple of ways:

1. If you didn't write, create, produce or record the music...then it isn't yours. Period. Anything created by someone else it theirs and you may not use it unless you get permission and/or pay for it. If you need music, check out royalty-free services.

2. Use car theft as an example. If you steal someone's car, it is still a crime even if you credit the driver from whom you stole it, only used it yourself or didn't make a profit.

If there is music, images from TV, or movie clips in your YouTube videos, then you must remove them and/or blur them out.

Just ask yourself a question on all your posts: "Is there any image or audio that isn't mine in it?" If so, it's not yours to use. 

Feb 16, 2013 10:56 PM
David Knox
David Knox Productions, Inc. - Minneapolis, MN

Fred #18. Those same senators stand behind the contract laws that protect your commission...same as they protect the rights of performers who create music.

Feb 16, 2013 10:58 PM
David Knox
David Knox Productions, Inc. - Minneapolis, MN

Downloading music from iTunes gives you the right to play it on your own devices. You do not own the music. The statement "All rights reserved" pertains to the creator of the music and/or the owner of the rights to it. I wanted to use 20 seconds of "Takin' Care of Business" by Bachman Turner Overdrive. I paid BTO $10,000 and Sony $10,000. I could use it on a fixed quantity of DVDs.

Feb 16, 2013 11:01 PM
David Knox
David Knox Productions, Inc. - Minneapolis, MN

Paddy 19. We REALTORS® are fanatical about protecting our commission should a listed seller attempt to sell directly to a buyer and cut us out. A copyright is like a listing agreement.

Regarding music in the background: someone else's music is IN the video and only the copyright owner has the right to determne in which video the music is played. We've recorded agents in the field and if the radio is on during an interview we can't use it. We're very careful to avoid having radio, TV and/or music in the background.

Imagine if you created a beautiful song then found it playing on an offensive video.

Feb 16, 2013 11:06 PM
Dave Keys
MOVE UP in Google Search Learn How Here - Brea, CA
Chief Search Strategist Real Estate SEO Expert

I've had paid royalty free music get tagged by YT. I got it released through the challenge but even the challenge form warns you that "misusing" it may result in severe actions. Not fair to end users. Yes, YouTube needs to clean up their system.

It's annoying.

Feb 16, 2013 11:38 PM
Bob Miller
Keller Williams Cornerstone Realty - Ocala, FL
The Ocala Dream Team
Hi Jill, we agree. We have read the very act of creating a piece automatically makes it copywriter.
Feb 17, 2013 12:20 AM
John DL Arendsen
CREST "BACKYARD' HOMES, ON THE LEVEL General & Manufactured Home Contractor, TAG Real Estate Sales & Investments - Leucadia, CA
Crest Backyard Homes "ADU" dealer & RE Developer

Almost makes you start thinking about posting anything online anymore.

Feb 17, 2013 12:28 AM
Robert Hammerstein
Christie's International Real Estate - Hillsdale, NJ
Bergen County NJ Real Estate

Jill - I use my own recorded music that I myself have recorded as well as my own photos that I myself took and You Tube still gives me those messages on occasion...Then I go through the motions you described and I still get their adds on my videos.... go figure.. Just my two cents

Feb 17, 2013 12:44 AM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

I've never gotten involved with using YouTube, and this post makes me glad I haven't!

Feb 17, 2013 12:57 AM
Ruthmarie Hicks
Keller Williams NY Realty - 120 Bloomingdale Road #101, White Plains NY 10605 - White Plains, NY

One of the reasons my video music is soooooo banal is the copyright issues that I'm afraid of.  I always use what is provided by Animoto and  proshow web just to avoid this issue, but let's face it....they are boooooorrrrrrring. 

However, I had a very bad experience with Animoto on this.  Several videos flagged even though I picked from  their approved list of composers.  For about a month, it just kept happening.  Byt the time I got the notices,  I had cancelled my animoto account because their customer service was nothing short of appalling.  I was wondering whether that meant that I had somehow lost the rights to to the music I had downloaded while I had the account. It sounded remote and it didn't make any sense.  If you have to take down all your videos when you change vendors, no one would ever be able to change.

At the end of the day I clicked the link that said I had permission to use the music and the problem resolved itself - for all the videos (I think there were 4-5).  As for your daughter's chorus, I can't imagine that any composer would not expect the music to be performed or put on YouTube. You certainly aren't making money from that, its a family thing.  Don't know the answer to that one or why it was even flagged.   

Feb 17, 2013 01:00 AM
Kimo Jarrett
Cyber Properties - Huntington Beach, CA
Pro Lifestyle Solutions

I didn't realize that re-posting or forwarding a You Tube video via email was that easy, so thanks for the information. 

Feb 17, 2013 01:23 AM
Brad MacKenzie
Brad MacKenzie - Duxbury, MA
Turning Houses into Homes on the South Shore

Fred Knox is right.  I especially applaud his response to Fred #18.  But folks, don't throw the baby out with the bath water: use YouTube for your creations.  If some part of your creation wasn't created by you, get permission to use from the creator before you publish what's not yours. Simple.  

Note that the high school needed permission to sing the songs in the first place.  Thus, videotaping that performance is also covered by copyright.  If that isn't clear, then YT needs to make it clear to their users unless they want to be liable for what people illegally post.

While no one wants YouTube to be overzealous, this is an alpha-error (over-inclusive) vs. beta-error (under-inclusive) problem that applies to millions of videos.  The high school example is an excellent example of why YouTube is justified in doing what is really their only legitimate option; they need to be over-inclusive while they work out the technological and public-education methodology of properly enforcing copyrights.  

Unfortunately for them, YouTube makes money when other people are ripped off, and they are the only ones in a position to mitigate, and eventually eliminate, that misappropriation (read: theft).  Otherwise, republications of copyrighted material without permission from, or payment to, the copyright holders will continue.

If you want to make a video for personal use, it's pretty hard to stop you.  But you bust through all the exceptions to the copyright owner's rights when you put that video up on the internet for all the world to see.  It's not personal use, or fair use, or in any way legal, if you are posting copyrighted materials on YouTube with neither compensation nor permission.

Feb 17, 2013 03:13 AM
Brad MacKenzie
Brad MacKenzie - Duxbury, MA
Turning Houses into Homes on the South Shore

Jill asked:

If anyone has any experience with this sort of thing, I'd very much appreciate your advice

with regard to her story that:

The 2nd copyright claim is for a video I made of my daughter's high school choir singing at their Winter Performance. I'm still awaiting a decision. I have no personal contact information on this video and have not made any money off it. Perhaps, it will help if I include the composers of each number that was represented in this concert. I was unaware that this was necessary.

The answer is that copyright protection does not turn on whether you make money off the publication, whether or not you have personal contact information on the publication, or whether you acknowledge the composers.  None of those facts creates an exception to the copyright owner's rights.

While there are limited exceptions that allow people to use copyrighted materials without compensation or permission, for example, personal use (e.g., publications you've purchased and are using personally on your headphones), and fair use, they are the exceptions, and you would do best to err on the side of caution and respect for others' rights by not relying on them.

What you need to republish someone else's composition in any public forum -- when you haven't paid them for the right to do so -- is permission, just as the high school needed permission to sing the songs in the first place.  

Feb 17, 2013 03:25 AM
Rob Renk
Center Street Lending - McKinney, TX
AE | Fast Fix/Flip Loans for Residential Investors

Why bother posting anything online.  Someone will always complain about it even if you are all original with your own material.

Feb 17, 2013 03:31 AM
EMILIA B COOPER, REALTOR® SFR.NCHSE.AHWD
LAROSA REALTY - Orlando, FL
Short Sales, Foreclosure & Bank Owned Real Estate

Thanks Jill for very important information! Great post!

Feb 17, 2013 08:16 AM
Jean-Paul Peron
The Outer Banks Real Estate Copmpany - Corolla, NC
Carova Beach - Living & Working in 4-Wheel Drive

I remember one time I took some video from my phone while drive down the beach and posted it to Youtube. It only took a couple of days before I got a message that my vdeio was blocked bacause There was an Allan Jackson song playing over the readio in my jeep.  :)

Lesson learned.

Feb 18, 2013 05:10 AM
Tina Gleisner
Home Tips for Women - Portsmouth, NH
Home Tips for Women

In my circle, lots of people are going to other video hosting sites to avoid dealing with YouTube so wondering what others here are doing?

Feb 18, 2013 08:37 PM
Jill Sackler
Charles Rutenberg Realty Inc. 516-575-7500 - Long Beach, NY
LI South Shore Real Estate - Broker Associate

Thank you all so much for taking the time to write such great comments. I truly appreciate your advice. Clearly, when I first started using YouTube, I didn't really understand just what is and isn't allowed. Now, I know to be even more careful with the selections I choose to put up. Since I don't believe I'm going to be creating my own music anytime soon, I think I'll err on the side of caution and just leave out music altogether.

This post was actually written almost a year ago, although it generated a ton of responses just recently. I just put up another video (Animoto) and picked music from their approved list. Like the commenter above, I was saddened to see it flagged by YouTube once again. It doesn't appear like the right hand knows what the left hand is doing. Like I said, I may continue to use video but I'll probably leave out the music.

I'm confused about what Brad wrote in #35. If the school received permission and/or paid for the rights, like they do when putting on a school play, then is videotaping that performance also covered or not? Or, can I videotape it but NOT put in on YouTube?

Feb 22, 2013 01:31 AM
Mike Crosby
Mike Crosby Realty - Placentia, CA
Placentia- Yorba Linda Real Estate - 714-742-2897

Copyright is something we need to be aware of  thanks for the post.

Nov 02, 2013 01:51 AM