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What Do You Do When Things Go Pear-Shaped?

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Industry Observer with Swanepoel T3 Group

It's happened to all of us: we write a post that creates strong reactions and things go pear-shaped. Sometimes we wrote in perfect innocence, sometimes in righteous indignation, sometimes with an intent to stir the pot, but suddenly our own personal little blog goes pear-shaped. Sometimes the most hum-drum topics -- from home staging to open houses to door knocking -- can incite the most unimaginable conflict among AR members. Other times the topic itself is controversial, like the foreclosure moratorium or what Zillow.com is really up to. 

In any case, alliances form, shift and disperse as we each have our say. When I first joined, I watched with deep envy as Amanda Durbin Hall and TLW gleefully hijacked posts (it took me two years to ask ADH to explain "I love lamp"). I lurked while Paul Slaybaugh and Jason Sardi whipped off witty soliloquies and snappy rebuttal posts. And as I became more active on AR, I saw bloggers crash and burn in Stager-gate, the SEO wars, and of course the ongoing debate over the future of AR.

My little AR world has gone pear-shaped more than once.

In the fall of 2010 I wrote a series of posts about the foreclosure moratorium that quickly became a battleground of opinions and misinformation. I was sinking fast in one of those comment threads when Debe Maxwell gracefully stepped in:"Leslie, I know you didn't mean that, did you?". Since I had no idea what I meant by that point I took the lifeline and started responding to comments with "yes, of course" and "interesting point" and "thanks for commenting". Debe makes me smile.

Disagreement doesn't need to mean disagreeable. Some bloggers handle the unexpected conflict very well, like Jackie Connelly-Fornuff in her infamous post "I Kicked the Buyer to the Curb". I will never forget the deeply emotional -- and completely inexplicable -- reaction to Tom Branch's cell phone post about why he doesn't give out his cell number. Tom didn't want to talk about phones for quite a while after that but he sure handled that comment thread well. No matter what the topic, Greg Nino speaks his mind and doesn't argue...he just writes what he thinks and moves on. He's sort of a strong silent type of blogger. 

J. Philip Faranda is one of the best at writing on controversial topics and maintaining control of the conversation. Sometimes I'll bet he wants to write "Jane, you ignorant s*#t" when things get out of hand, but I think he always manages to successfully make his points and be a gentleman. 

Alan May writes well, on just about every topic under the sun, but I don't think I've ever seen one of his posts get out of control. I think I can hear him grimace from time to time in responding to comments, but he shuts off unpleasant debate with his masterful command of language: "Hmmm, you don't say...." certainly keeps the radical fringe from getting more worked up. 

It's hard work to write well on interesting subjects, offer well-reasoned opinions and then keep your cool when people loudly disagree. In Jon Zolsky's post about AR a few days ago I commented that I participate less on AR these days because it's distracting to write consumer-oriented posts and end up arguing business practices with people who can't say what state your town is in. Jon's comment to me was perfect "but why argue if you don't want to". Jon is a wise man.

So what do you do when things go pear-shaped? We should avoid provoking people into digging themselves in deeper when a comment thread gets wacky. When you see someone struggling or over-reacting in a comment thread, a private message or a gentle nudge might help them to re-establish equilibrium. If you see your own post going pear-shaped, it's probably best to close off comments or delete the darn thing altogether. It's hard to put our words out there for all the world to chew on, but the rewards can far out-weigh the benefits if you can keep your world from going pear-shaped. 

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Tom Branch
RE/MAX Dallas Suburbs - Plano, TX
Broker, CDPE, SFR, ACRE, Plano TX Ambassador

Leslie,

Great post as usual. A friendly email is the best way to let someone know.

Tom

PS - I'd forgotten about that beating!

Apr 22, 2012 02:20 AM
Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Leslie,

There is always the option of reading a post and not commenting on it if you are in disagreement.  I do think your advice of a friendly email is the best solution.  Wouldn't it be nice if we gave everyone the benefit of the doubt?  A

Apr 22, 2012 03:41 AM
J. Philip Faranda
Howard Hanna Rand Realty - White Plains, NY
Associate Broker / Office Manager

There you go, ruining my street cred as a honey badger blogger with the "gentleman" slur. 

To your point, I think the adage about going out on a limb to get the best fruit applies. Disagreement is fine, personal attacks aren't. I like a spirited debate, so long as it is a professional one. 

xoxo

Apr 22, 2012 04:06 AM
Tammy Emineth
Personal SEO - Website SEO and Real Estate Marketing - Frenchtown, MT
Content Marketer, SEO Teacher, Website Fixer

Leslie, your post was very timely as I tend to get a little too emotional behind the scenes when I am rejected or confronted and accused with no recourse. My business has seen over and above it's fair share of scam artists and rising about that takes some doing. To some though, it's a no-win battle and even my congratulatory or agreeable comments are often deleted. I just have to buck up, move on and realize that you can't please everyone and I shouldn't try.  I just want to cultivate the relationships of folks on here that I can relate to and assist when needed. Thanks for your post Leslie, and I think you hit everyone of those fabulous bloggers on the head (figuratively speaking of course! ;-) )

Apr 22, 2012 04:13 AM
Tim Bradley
Contour Investment Properties - Jackson Hole, WY
Commercial Real Estate Expert in Jackson Hole, WY

I enjoy seeing the various points of view. And when a commenter steps beyond the bounds of decency and makes personal attacks, you always have the option to simply not respond. What's that about wrestling with pigs? You get muddy and the pig enjoys it!

 

Apr 22, 2012 08:36 AM
Allison Stewart
St.Cloud Homes - Saint Cloud, FL
St. Cloud Fl Realtor, Osceola County Real Estate 407-616-9904

Leslie

THANK YOU- I enjoyed this post, and you made some really important points.  I had to step away from AR for awhile when it was no longer fun after blogging almost daily for over 5 years for many of the reasons you cited. 

Apr 22, 2012 08:04 PM
Karen Fiddler, Broker/Owner
Karen Parsons-Fiddler, Broker 949-510-2395 - Mission Viejo, CA
Orange County & Lake Arrowhead, CA (949)510-2395

Great post....and I'm so glad someone put it front and center. For me? I had a recent post that started out with positive comments and then there was an end attack. What I found most interesting about it is that I imagine there were those who disagreed right away, but waited for someone else to say it before joining in. Rather funny...don't you think?

I have no problem with those who disagree....I get a bit annoyed at adults who call names and react childishly or condescendingly, but I try to stay above that when I can. I don't always succeed, of course. And my definition of "staying above it" might not be everyone else's.

The bottom line is I write what I think....and if I didn't believe it, I couldn't write it. So I have solid reasons behind my posts. And I can defend them..and do when I need to. That said....I've written posts and had responses which have caused me to rethink my position and change my mind. That's also a beautiful thing.

Sorry for the long response...this will be an interesting thread in itself. Right?

Apr 23, 2012 12:25 AM
Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

Leslie, thank you so much for the thought provoking post, almost a history lesson leaving me wanting to go check out some of these folks and their posts.

Apr 23, 2012 11:21 PM
Leslie Ebersole
Swanepoel T3 Group - Saint Charles, IL
I help brokers build businesses they love.

Bob Crane: we definitely have history here...social media at work in all it's ways

Karen: I should have mentioned you. You have had more than one post that brought out a vocal minority but you have beautifully managed the conflict numerous times.

St Cloud Homes: it's not just blogging, it's an ongoing social experiment

Tim: yeah, but sometimes we can't help ourselves

Tammy: you've been in the thick of things more than once...seo is sort of like black magic to most of. But persevering in our business counts for a lot, don't you think? I'm glad you've stuck it out.

Phil: spirited professional debate? This isn't the Federalist Papers.

Ron and Alexandra: yes,it would be nice that way.

 

 

 

Apr 24, 2012 11:30 AM
Kristine Ginsberg
Elite Staging and Redesign, LLC - Short Hills, NJ
NJ Home Stager

Leslie - I forgot to ask (maybe I don't want to know, lol) what was stagergate? I've been on AR for a year and a half - what did I miss? BTW, I love your post and can relate to it all. I once asked a question for my sister who was selling her home about her agent and before I knew it people were slamming me and then fighting with each other. It was out of control and I did exactly what you said - I shut it down.

Apr 28, 2012 01:06 PM
Russell Lewis
Realty Austin, Austin Texas Real Estate - Austin, TX
Broker,CLHMS,GRI

Leslie, this is so well written and absolutely spot on. Having the pleasure of getting to know you, I KNOW you are not the type to "unnecessarily" stir up trouble! When things do get out of hand it's good to have the support of others who...gently make suggestions and guide us (Thank goodness for Debe Maxwell!) And of course we have to listen and do our part, removing our ego and taking care of business!

May 02, 2012 12:10 AM
Leslie Ebersole
Swanepoel T3 Group - Saint Charles, IL
I help brokers build businesses they love.

Kristine: there was a 350 comment thread here a year ago where people debated the role of agents, stagers, milkmen and dog walkers. It was brutal. 

Russ: thank goodness for Debe Maxwell! And you, and all the others who make AR a cool place.

May 03, 2012 09:06 AM
Cathy Criado
Criado Realty - San Antonio, TX
Making Real Estate Profitable

I guess I'm just the kind of person who finds it a waste of time and mental energy to debate opinions given they are what they are, opinions. Facts are a whole other subject, and I won't argue that unless blatentl incorrect. Trying to change opinions is like trying to move mountains. Not worth my time, but sure can tick me off.

 

May 06, 2012 12:05 PM
Joni Bailey
101 Main St. Realty - Huntsville, TX
Your Huntsville / Lake Livingston Area REALTOR®
Most of the time it's one of those topics with no right or wrong answer. Just what works best for you.... It makes you want to comment "REALLY? All that over whether or not we should use a showing service? I would hate to be working with you on a deal and a REAL problem come up." HA! But then... Two wrongs do not make a right! (Dang!)
May 06, 2012 11:45 PM
Juli Vosmik
Dominion Fine Properties - Scottsdale, AZ
Scottsdale/Cave Creek, AZ real estate 480-710-0739

Well written, Leslie.  It's interesting to see the different blogs, but I mostly avoid the really controversial ones - I tend to get a little too nasty when someone posts something that's so out of line.  

May 19, 2012 01:45 AM
Jason Sardi
Auto & Home & Life Insurance throughout North Carolina - Charlotte, NC
Your Agent for Life

Excellent post, Leslie.  And who is this Slaybaugh dude you are referencing? ;)

May & J. Phillip are two of my favorites, as are you.  AR can get distracting but only if you let it.  And sometimes letting it can be a good thing and sometimes ... not so much.

Okay, now it's time to give Tom Branch a call on his cell.

May 19, 2012 02:34 AM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

Leslie - I enjoy seeing a good debate, and I think that when agents chime in about how they would have handled situation it's helpful to new agents. I think (hope) it makes them think about the situations they'll encounter and how best to respond.

I don't enjoy the posts that get into personal attacks, so generally just leave and go somewhere else. Once in a while I'll speak up to defend the writer if I think the commenters are getting off track and misunderstanding the point that was being made.

We see that misunderstanding a lot when people only skim a post instead of actually reading it. I've read comments that say "I disagree" and then go on to support whatever the writer said. Kinda funny.

Anyway - great post. Now I have to go follow your links to see what I missed.

Thanks!

May 19, 2012 04:24 AM
Debe Maxwell, CRS
Savvy + Company (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
The RIGHT CHARLOTTE REALTOR!

Leslie, Obviously I don't pay attention to my Google alerts for my own name!  LOL  

You are so funny!  I have loved getting to know you and have learned so very much from you.  Sometimes I think the written word bites more than the spoken one so, unfortunately, we have to 'fine-tune' our comments sometimes.  You're a brilliant writer and I love your comments--they always add to the conversation and add SUBSTANCE too!

Thanks for the mention and I am so sorry it took so long to respond!  xoxo

 

May 23, 2012 08:03 AM
Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman
Liberty Homes - Mililani, HI
(RA) AHWD CRS ePRO OAHU HAWAII REAL ESTATE

I'm one of those 'boring' writers who purposely does not write to get a big heated debate going. There has to be balance somewhere lol

May 23, 2012 11:42 AM
Jason Sardi
Auto & Home & Life Insurance throughout North Carolina - Charlotte, NC
Your Agent for Life

Of note, Sally has just published a controversial blog on whether Debe Maxwell is actually a citizen of the United States.  This could throw all commission checks written to a "Debe Maxwell" in the past six years out the freaking window.

Thanks Sis!

Unclaimed Money, here I come!

May 23, 2012 02:22 PM