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Do you TAKE better photos or do you MAKE better photos?

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Richard Weisser Realty

Do you TAKE better photos or do you MAKE better photos?Call me old school. But I have always believed that a photograph should be conceived through the lens and not in image-editing software.

I just downloaded a Beta version of Adobe Photoshop CS6 to see what I have been missing over all of the years. Photography professionals swear by Photoshop and it has become the standard image editor for the industry.

It sure seems to have a lot of bells and whistles, and does a lot of things that I don’t understand.

Because I still think of a photograph as an instant of time captured in the moment and not as a future project for experimentation.

And while it is true that my trusty old D80 uses complex algorithms to generate my image file, I still shoot in manual mode with quality lenses and filters.

My guess is that I won’t be purchasing a license for the product once my trial period is over.

But you never know. If I play with it enough I just might learn to love it!

Spring Flower

Fireworks

The Oconaluftee River in the Great Smoky Mountains National Park

BTW These photos are from my archives and were NOT edited in my Beta version of PhotoShop!

Kathy Streib
Cypress, TX
Home Stager/Redesign

Richard- I had to look twice at your post because I wasn't sure if the photos were "yours" or "yours via Photoshop" .  And, if that's what you can do without Photoshop, I'd say spend your time doing what you're doing because if you mastered Photoshop you would put us all to shame!  

I am a Point 'n Shot photographer.  What I loved about the now-departed Picnik was the wrinkle remover! But some day I am going to learn Photoshop.  It's all art, whether your art comes out through your camera and the settings or through a combination of camera and editing software.  The common denominator is your vision. 

Apr 24, 2012 12:35 PM
Peg Barcelo
Fluff My House! Home Staging Inc. 250.486.6369 - Summerland, BC
The FlufftasticStager from Summerland, BC

Fab photos, Richard! There are a lot of things to learn with all these programs and if you can take a beautiful original photo that's great! :D I'm still working on learning my camera...

Apr 24, 2012 12:36 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Richard, I do use I-Photo to do a bit of crop/straighten to edit the photos that I take.  Photoshop is beyond my capabilities.  Your stuff is gorgous by the way.

Apr 24, 2012 12:56 PM
Carie Shapiro
North Shore Suburbs & Chicago Real Estate - Evanston, IL

Wow ... gorgeous photos, Richard!  I'm pretty much a 'point and shoot' kind of gal myself.  I really don't have much experience with the photo editors, so I always have my fingers crossed that my shots will come out right the first time :)

Apr 24, 2012 01:22 PM
Maria Morton
Platinum Realty - Kansas City, MO
Kansas City Real Estate 816-560-3758

Richard, I'm with you. I prefer well composed photos the old fashioned way. We're probably in the minority.

Apr 24, 2012 01:29 PM
Wayne Jackson
Lakeshore Realty 208-714-4109 - Hayden, ID
North Idaho Realtor, Serving Coeur dnullAlene and Hayden Lake

Richard, Photoshop was developed as a graphic arts program. Over the years Adobe has added many features for photographers but it's still a very slow akward program for photography and has a very steep learning curve. Adobe has a program just for photographers called Lightroom. It's much cheaper, many times faster and very easy to use.

 

Apr 24, 2012 01:58 PM
Evelyn Kennedy
Alain Pinel Realtors - Alameda, CA
Alameda, Real Estate, Alameda, CA

Richard:

Your photos are breath taking.  It is remarkable that these photos were not edited.  I can see I have a lot to learn.

Apr 24, 2012 02:19 PM
Sun City Grand Homes Surprise AZ Real Estate Leolinda Bowers Designated Broker Leolinda Realty
Leolinda Realty - Surprise, AZ
Sun City Grand in Surprise Arizona

Richard, your pictures are exquisite! What type of camera to you use?

Apr 24, 2012 02:20 PM
William Johnson
Retired - La Jolla, CA
Retired
Hi Richard, Just beautiful. I understand your perspective and mostly agree but there are times when enhancements save an otherwise poor photo. I do not think that most of the photographic art I have seen for sale or are published have escaped corections however minor. Your photos are very special and your passion for having learned your art shows in your presentations.
Apr 24, 2012 02:50 PM
Amy Jones Group
South East Valley - www.AmyJonesGroup.com - Chandler, AZ
4 Time BEST OF OUR VALLEY Winner

GORGEOUS photos, Richard.  Wow! If you did those with no editing software...my guess is.. "you don't need no darn editing software!"

Apr 24, 2012 03:05 PM
Tammie White, Broker
Franklin Homes Realty LLC - Franklin, TN
Franklin TN Homes for Sale

Richard, I am with you. I thing a photo is a moment in time and don't do anything to enhance or detract from that moment.

Apr 24, 2012 04:06 PM
Joni Bailey
101 Main St. Realty - Huntsville, TX
Your Huntsville / Lake Livingston Area REALTOR®

I have it and prefer to use the free ones on the web. I can be finished with what I want done before photoshop finishes opening up... AND it doesn't take up space on my computer. Since you only make minor changes, you do not need Photoshop. If you want to put your face on Superman's  body... THEN open up Photoshop! 

Apr 24, 2012 09:34 PM
Cheryl Ritchie
RE/MAX Leading Edge www.GoldenResults.com - Huntingtown, MD
Southern Maryland 301-980-7566
Richard, the photos look magazine worthy to me! What software did you use previously use for the simple stuff?
Apr 24, 2012 10:38 PM
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Richard, all the software in the world cannot replace an eye for good composition. With the new point and shoot cameras and phone cameras, everyone is an expert photographer. It still takes a good eye to get a great photo. You've got the eye! Your photos are amazing!!

Apr 24, 2012 11:12 PM
Jim Frimmer
HomeSmart Realty West - San Diego, CA
Realtor & CDPE, Mission Valley specialist

If you read about "old school" photography, though, you'll understand that photographs have never really been conceived through the lens. They are conceived with the human brain.

Just look at everything that is coming out about Ansel Adams, arguably the greatest photographer the world has ever known. He took dozens of pictures of the same thing and then modified them in his darkroom using different chemicals, papers, dodging, burning, etc.

Personally, I think that a "photograph as an instant of time captured in the moment" is a picture. I make a differentiation between snapshot pictures and photographs.

As well, you say that you "still shoot in manual mode with quality lenses and filters." What do you think "quality lenses and filters" are? Photoshop and the other digital editing programs simply make those lenses and filters accessible to the masses, at much lower cost than actually buying all those lenses and filters.

Our household here has Photoshop CS6 Beta, Photoshop CS5, PaintShop Pro X4, and Photo-Paint X5, as well as all the free ones (Picassa, PicMonkey, etc.). Even Word 2010 has very good picture editing capabilities. We also have a Canon Rebel, Rebel XSi, and 550D that we use, as well as lenses from 10mm wide angle to 55-300 zoom to 500mm prime. They all do different things that make a snapshot, a picture, into a photograph.

Stop by a photography gallery and talk to the professional photographers. You'll be surprised at just how much post-processing goes into those professional photographs.

Apr 24, 2012 11:26 PM
Amanda Christiansen
Christiansen Group Realty (260)704-0843 - Fort Wayne, IN
Christiansen Group Realty

Really loved the last picture Richard.  Very cool stuff!                                                                                                            

Apr 24, 2012 11:41 PM
Terkel Sørensen
Real Estate Places - Temecula, CA
Realtor, 951.805.0773 , Bank owned and Short Sales

Nice shots Richard.

and now for the dissenting opinion... 

I grew up around cameras, rollei's, agfa, pinhole... you name it, and there are image pros in my family.

We create or make images by deciding what to shoot, and in your case, you think hard about what you are shooting and compose and create the right mood for your image. 

Photoshop is your darkroom, look at the menus, it's all from the darkroom - treat it that way and photoshop can be a giant asset for you. On the other hand, if cutting things out of pictures is all you need, heck, maybe get into real estate and hire a photographer... 

One of the most frequent uses of PSD for pros is to adjust color balance to be true... shoot a true white reference or a gray scale and use that to adjust your colors, helps you print images that actually has the colors you intended. 

 

Apr 25, 2012 12:24 AM
Sandy Acevedo
951-290-8588 - Chino Hills, CA
RE/MAX Masters, Inland Empire Homes for Sale

Hi Richard... these are really stunning photos. I don't think you need photoshop. Whatever for? You have a great talent!

Apr 25, 2012 01:24 AM
Bryan Robertson
Los Altos, CA

Photoshop will never fix a poorly taken photo.  I have Photoshop CS5.5 and rarely use it.  It's complex, huge, and slow but it does a few slick tricks.  However, no software will fix a bad angle, poor lighting, and other issues.  Better to just take a good pic the first time.  When I have to tweak a picture, I just use Corel Paintshop Photo.

Apr 25, 2012 04:06 AM
San Antonio Texas New Homes for Sale
www.sanantoniotexasnewhomesforsale.com - San Antonio, TX
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Hill Country

Great Photos ......  I take pictures and usually get 1 fantastic picture out of 20  then I salvage 2 out of 20  and the rest a re just there ..... !!!   

Apr 26, 2012 09:53 AM