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One person’s conducive condition, is another person’s romantic notion.

By
Home Inspector with Charles Buell Inspections Inc.

 

When a home inspector or a structural pest inspector starts talking about “conducive conditions,” there is a good chance they are not talking about conditions conducive to supporting your home’s well being.  They are more likely talking about conditions that are detrimental to the health of your home.

Basically anything that can encourage, support or result in infestation of wood destroying insects or wood decay/rot can be considered a conducive condition---conducive to wood destroying insects---conducive to wood decay/rot.

Missing paint, missing caulk, missing flashings, improper flashings, missing roofing, leaking roofing, plumbing leaks, leaking gutters, missing gutters, improper drainage, failed sump pumps, and leaking windows are just a few of the things that can be a conducive condition.

Then of course there are the sorts of things that are considered conducive conditions because perhaps they create a pathway for wood destroying organisms into the structure.  For example, crawl spaces filled with vegetation or exteriors of homes covered with vegetation, make the areas difficult to inspect and can result in hidden damage.

Vegetation in a crawl space 

Home inspectors must report these conditions because of the risk that if they are not taken care of greater harm to the home can and will occur over time.  Another example of a conducive condition that can result in lots of damage over time is a missing plastic ground cover and/or missing ventilation in the crawl space.  Uncontrolled moisture in crawl spaces can lead to damage by wood destroying insects, wood decay/rot and/or mold growth in the under structures of the home.

But what is to be done when the entire foundation of the home is a “conducive condition?”

Conducive Conditions 

While some of these old growth cedar logs have performed well for nearly 100 years, it is the portions that are totally submerged that hold up the best.  All the wood and metal components used between the structure and the under-water logs routinely fail and need maintenance and/or or replacement.  Many of these intermediary structures are now routinely replaced with pressure treated materials.

Regardless, a buyer would be well advised to keep in mind that all of these under-water structures, or close to under-water structures, remain a “conducive condition.”

One person’s conducive condition, is another person’s romantic notion. 

This is the case with both house boats where the entire foundation is a conducive condition and with logs homes where the foundation is likely OK but the entire structure above ground can be a conducive condition.

Our romantic notions are best nurtured by structure’s that support those notions the longest and with the least amounts of denial (money).

 

Charles Buell, Real Estate Inspections in Seattle

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Kathryn Maguire
GreatNorfolkHomes.com (757) 560-0881 - Chesapeake, VA
Serving Chesapeake, Norfolk, VA Beach

Very cool photo!  I never would have imagined that 100 year old submerged logs would still be functional as support.

May 07, 2012 12:34 AM
Chris Smith
Re/Max Chay Realty Inc., Brokerage - New Tecumseth, ON
South Simcoe, Caledon, King, Orangeville Real Esta

This is an area where I have little knowledge Charles, thanks for illuminating the area and alerting me that I need to know more about this situation, or suggest experts (like good home inspectors) to assist a buyer's evaluation).

May 07, 2012 12:48 AM
Kristin Johnston - REALTOR®
RE/MAX Platinum - Waukesha, WI
Giving Back With Each Home Sold!

OMG, I aways love seeing the home inspectors posts, pictures, and thinking what the heck? I always learn something!

May 07, 2012 01:01 AM
Donald Hester
NCW Home Inspections, LLC - Wenatchee, WA
NCW Home Inspections, LLC

Charlie, 

I love that conducive condition. Got to love Seattle, maybe we should consider it One large "Conducive Condition" ; )

May 07, 2012 01:34 AM
Gary Woltal
Keller Williams Realty - Flower Mound, TX
Assoc. Broker Realtor SFR Dallas Ft. Worth

Some cities Charles even fine the homeowner for a stack of wood next to a garage due to it being conducive to bugs or rodents. Great point you make.

May 07, 2012 04:48 AM
Steven Cook
No Longer Processing Mortgages. - Tacoma, WA

Charles -- thanks for brining up this important point.  It makes one think about what has to be done to take care of the parts between the logs and the actual base of the house.

May 07, 2012 05:25 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

I like conducive conditions!  I like a kitchen that is conducive to cooking food, a bed conducive to a good night's sleep and a shady yard conducive to a hammock.

You made it sound like all of them are bad...

May 07, 2012 05:41 AM
Paul S. Henderson, REALTOR®, CRS
Fathom Realty Washington LLC - Tacoma, WA
South Puget Sound Washington Agent/Broker!

That's why I always encourage my clients to ask questions during a home inspection. The misconstrued term may cause the client to miss out on their dream... 

May 07, 2012 08:49 AM
Carl Winters
Canyon Lake, TX

Don't stack your firewood on the patio next to your home. You can expect problems at some point. You don't want problems with wood - hungary insects...could cause a conducive condition.

May 08, 2012 12:36 PM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Kathryn, yes, as long as they stay submerged they last a long time

Chris, I don't think there are many areas around the country that get to experience these structures

Kristin, thanks

Don, we could become the "Conducive State" instead of the Evergreen State

Gary, I could see that---especially in areas with Subterranean termites

Steven, yes that is the area that really suffers

Jay, for sure---the word conducive can be used in lots of good ways

Paul, defining terms is crucial to getting ones point across and not leave everyone confused---or disappointed.

Carl & Ceil, see it all the time around here---even storage sheds pushed right up against the siding

May 08, 2012 12:59 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

;>)

May 08, 2012 07:48 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

A good take on the negative or positive connotation of a word or a condition. 

May 09, 2012 10:20 PM