Inspecting a recent renovation

By
Home Inspector with A2Z Home Inspections

Flipped by a "quality builder" .... I don't know why we don't get along.

When in doubt ....screw it the inspector will never look in the crawlspace!

.....My momma said there'd be days like this. Simply unreal, should I be insulted that a builder would think an inspector would not see this or not care?

Photobucketexposed live conductors Photobucket - insulation hanger went through numerous joists with ease. Photobucket Photobucket 2 pics of the sill plate ... well what's left of it. Photobucket sure just sandwich the rotted joist .... it'll be fineeeeee; support? we don't need no stinkin support!

Comments (16)

Brian Corwell
RE/MAX Sauk Valley - Sterling, IL
Sterling, Illinois Real Estate

Wow!!! Gotta love an inspector that is not afraid of a little crawl space...good way to CYA and get lots and lots of photos. Looks like it was money well spent by the potential buyer that most likely saves them from costly repairs in the future...I hate when a flipper starts to do "quality" work like that, but in a small town like ours that word spreads fast.

When will they ever learn?

By the way...did the deal close?

Jan 02, 2008 03:31 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector
Chris, I guess we just have to look at it as "job security."  As long as there are builders like this and "big-box" stores we will have jobs.
Jan 02, 2008 03:33 AM
Chris Frantz
EDU Real Estate Group - Indianapolis, IN

Very interesting pics.

Jan 02, 2008 03:33 AM
Chris Duphily
A2Z Home Inspections - Stroudsburg, PA
Stroudsburg PA Home Inspector

Brian - It was a decent sized crawl space (4' in height). What is particularly funny/pathetic was the fact that the contractor replaced all the floor joists in the rear half of the home. Only sistered the rotted joists in the left front quarter of the structure and did nothing at all to the right front quarter of the structure. 

Some will never learn but I educate and learn from all who are willing. No, my client walked after being told of the rotted joists. My client did not buy this home. 

 

Charles - I love my job and the job security that presently exists, but I'm a lot happier seeing a family finding a home that has truly been renovated. Those big box stores do tend to sell some questionable materials, scary walking through them sometimes.

 Chris- interesting is the face of this builder when he views my report. 

Jan 02, 2008 08:35 AM
Erby Crofutt
B4 U Close Home Inspections&Radon Testing (www.b4uclose.com) - Lexington, KY
The Central Kentucky Home Inspector, Lexington KY

Carelesness abounds.  Good job security for us.

I had one where the first 10 feet inside the crawl space was insulated but nothing else.  Asked the seller about it.  He said the Appraiser told him he needed to see insulation in the crawl space "so he did".

Buyer was there and wasn't happy.  Appraiser had asked buyer for a copy of the home inspection report.

Ooopps!  It all came crashing door.  Poor seller ended up insulating the whole thing as he should have done the first time.

As someone once said "I'm constantly amazed at the trouble & time people will spend to do things wrong!"

Jan 02, 2008 01:50 PM
Vincent Coccia
Construction Services Integration - Paoli, PA
Wow that is sad...It is amazing what some construction companies will try to get away with.  My firm does not do any work like this!  Whoo.  Thanks for the post! 
Jan 02, 2008 02:18 PM
Chris Duphily
A2Z Home Inspections - Stroudsburg, PA
Stroudsburg PA Home Inspector

Erby - It at least adds a certain amount of comic relief when the seller tells you why he tried to pull a fast one. Appraiser must of loved looking like the one with egg on his face. 

 

Vincent - Great to hear that quality contractors still exist! I'll try to remember your name when I do work in Bucks County. 

Jan 03, 2008 10:24 AM
Joseph Lang
Pillar To Post Professional Home Inspection - Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Home Inspector, Southern California
I think you're right, Chris, that many people don't think an inspector will look in the crawlspace.  Good post.
Jan 04, 2008 02:20 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

I hear it over and over again----"the inspector didn't even go in the crawl space."  It is perhaps the single most important area to inspect and inspect well.  I personally know inspectors that look for any excuse to not go in there.  One rat turd and they are "outa-there."  No ground cover and twhey are "outa-there."  Insulation hanging down and they are "outa-there."  Granted there are personal safety issues----but they rarely keep me out.

 Hanging insulation

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Charles Buell Inspections, Inc

 

Jan 04, 2008 02:35 AM
Chris Duphily
A2Z Home Inspections - Stroudsburg, PA
Stroudsburg PA Home Inspector

Josephand Charles - I agree 100% the "looks good from my house" approach is one of many things that need to change in our industry.

The only time I do not enter a crawl space is when there is visible effluent and even then I go back once the problem is repaired to finish the inspecting the crawl space. 

Stay safe out there guys! 

Jan 05, 2008 12:20 PM
Patrick Wiseman
PJC Home Inspections - Washingtonville, NY
 Great Photos Chris. See you Tomorrow Night.
Jan 09, 2008 08:53 AM
Chris Duphily
A2Z Home Inspections - Stroudsburg, PA
Stroudsburg PA Home Inspector
Thanks pat, See you at the meeting tonight. Remember the speaker for this event has changed.
Jan 09, 2008 10:49 PM
Mario Kyriacou
360 Degrees Building Inspections - Toronto, ON

WOW!! Simply amazing, good find.

 

Nice pics Chris!!

Mar 16, 2008 06:31 AM
Anonymous
Mario Kyriacou

I love everyone and hate no one. Kinda poetic eh?

 

Mario Kyriacou

360 Degrees Home/Mold/Commercial Inspection

Jul 30, 2008 11:22 PM
#14
Anonymous
Russell Ray

http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=30604&page=18

Post 263

Isn't Mario on the ESOP with Bushfart? Considering these two repeatedly breach the COE of Nachi repeatedly under the nose of Joe Farsetta its no one NACHI is a joke!

Jul 30, 2008 11:35 PM
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Chris Duphily
A2Z Home Inspections - Stroudsburg, PA
Stroudsburg PA Home Inspector

ok boys let's stay on topic here, and keep the personal feelings out of the blogs. please :)

Stay safe!

Jul 31, 2008 06:38 AM