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Seller-Paid Closing Costs?

Reblogger Kay Van Kampen
Real Estate Agent with RE/MAX Broker, RE/MAX 1999033519

Ever have a seller that refused to pay for the buyer's closing costs?  Gabrielle has explained in detail how assisting home buyers is a plus.

Original content by Gabrielle Nemes WA State: 75600

As part of obtaining loan preapproval, lenders often suggest to a buyer that they request the seller foot the bill for all of the costs involved in closing their loan. While in a strong Buyer's market ... somewhat similar to current real estate market ... it only seems reasonable to expect that a Seller would be all too happy to pitch in with whatever's necessary in order to sell a home.

However, this expectation is a bit problematic, especially when working with bank-owned and short sale properties -- actually even with traditional "seller" listings.

Consider the following:

  • In the typical purchase and sale agreement, the loan cost provision wherein the Seller is asked to contribute is defined as "Buyer's loan and settlement costs, including but not limited to prepaids, loan discount, loan fee, interest buy-down, financing, closing, and other costs allowed by lender.

From experience, I know that for many buyers, these loan costs are about 4% to 4½% of the purchase price -- especially for first time homebuyers purchasing toward the bottom of the housing market. Of the 4-4½%, about 3% or so are actual loan fees -- lender fees, recording fees, appraisal fees, etc, with the remaining 1-1½% or so made up of prepaid costs such as upfront homeowner insurance, property taxes, homeowner association fees, prepaid interest, and so on.

  • Property owners of all types have taken a tremendous hit in equity over the past few years. Most owners in the King and Pierce county areas in which I work most frequently have seen a decrease in value of their homes of around 35% since the peak of the market in 2007. In order to sell a home without falling into a short sale category -- where the home is worth less and being sold for less than the outstanding loan(s) -- the seller very well might not have enough equity left in the home in order to pony up the Buyer's costs in addition to their own 8%-9% of sale costs.

 

  • In either bank-owned or short sale properties, the banks involved are typically refusing to pay more than 3% in Seller concessions. Included in that 3% is typically any other work that must be done to a property such as replacing a failing roof, adding a range, etc. -- typical requirements for most buyer loans.

 

  • We're actually seeing multiple offers on many many properties at the moment. Buyers I've represented that need or insist on requesting more than 3% of the purchase price in Seller paid closing costs? Not only were they not the successful offeror ... there was no counter offer in which to negotiate fees, prices, or anything else.

Over the last few months, I've successfully negotiated seller-paid loan costs for most transactions, but for bank-owned and short sale properties -- only up to 3% was paid, with virtually no prepaid expenses included.

We're in a learning curve again for being a buyer in our area. Expect that 3% is the maximum in closing costs you may receive from a Seller. Be prepared to pay the difference when the sale closes.

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Mark Loewenberg
KW of the Palm Beaches - Palm Beach Gardens, FL
KW 561-214-0370

excellent notes on this up and coming plan of action for sellers to reel in the buyers!

May 17, 2012 01:02 PM
Conrad Allen
Re/Max Professional Associates - Webster, MA
Webster, Ma, Realtor

Hi Kay.  As the market heats up these concessions will go away.

May 17, 2012 08:31 PM
Bill Gassett
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Hopkinton, MA
Metrowest Massachusetts Real Estate

Yes and it is kind of silly. I think when seller's initially don't want to do it the Realtor working with them may have not explained it correctly. It is just a function of their bottom line that's all. That is the way a seller should look at it. If a buyer asks for 5k in closing costs all that means is their offer is 5k less than what they offered. Very simple!

May 17, 2012 09:31 PM
John McCormack, CRS
Albuquerque Homes Realty - Albuquerque, NM
Honesty, Integrity, Results, Experienced. HIRE Me!

Good morning Kay -

A great choice of re-post.  Many home sellers are shocked when I explain that the brunt of the bill will be theirs when selling a NM home.  I have had clients that had to wait to list rather than be upside down.  Others understand and can afford to list their home.  

Hope you enjoy a great weekend my friend.

John

May 18, 2012 12:07 AM
Kay Van Kampen
RE/MAX Broker, RE/MAX - Springfield, MO
Realtor®, Springfield Mo Real Estate

Mark, Gabrielle did a great job explaining seller concessions.  Thanks for stopping by.

May 19, 2012 02:13 AM
Kay Van Kampen
RE/MAX Broker, RE/MAX - Springfield, MO
Realtor®, Springfield Mo Real Estate

Conrad, I agree with you.  We used to see the seller concessions over the listed sales price.

May 19, 2012 02:14 AM
Kay Van Kampen
RE/MAX Broker, RE/MAX - Springfield, MO
Realtor®, Springfield Mo Real Estate

Bill, some realtors don't have a way of explaining it correctly.  It's all about the net to the seller.

May 19, 2012 02:16 AM
Kay Van Kampen
RE/MAX Broker, RE/MAX - Springfield, MO
Realtor®, Springfield Mo Real Estate

John, some sellers are willing to give up funds to close on a home, while others won't budge a dime.  You have a great weekend as well.

May 19, 2012 02:20 AM
Karen Kruschka
RE/MAX Executives - Woodbridge, VA
- "My Experience Isn't Expensive - It's PRICELESS"

Kay  I can't recall having a problem with it in quite a few years - many sellers were in the same position when they bought the home

May 19, 2012 07:20 AM
Kay Van Kampen
RE/MAX Broker, RE/MAX - Springfield, MO
Realtor®, Springfield Mo Real Estate

Neither can I Karen.  I've always factored it in to the price.  It seems common place in our market, but some sellers still refuse to participate.

May 20, 2012 03:51 AM