Is it better to paint or do the floors first?

By
Home Builder with The Flooring Girl

hardwood flooring and painting westchester NYMany of my customers are redoing their floors and painting, and the smart customers ask whether it's best to do the floors first or paint first.

 

Many are surprised by the answer...and they are glad they asked.

 

So, to preface this, it somewhat depends on what type of flooring you are doing (as well as demo), what condition your walls are in and who is doing the painting.

 

Assuming that you are getting the work done professionally, it is usually better to do most of the painting AFTER the flooring and most of the prep work BEFORE the flooring.

 

Hardwood and painting order westchester NYThe ideal is to first do any prep work to the walls - e.g.ripping up wall paper, sanding and patching walls, etc.  The reason for that is that this can damage the floors.

 

Also, it's often better to paint the ceilings first, especially given that the ladders will rest on the floors.

 

From there, you should rip up the floors.  Note: rip up can often result in minor damage to walls and base boards.  If just carpet is being removed, this can scuff of the base boards.  If tile, hardwood or laminate are being removed, this can often result in base boards needing to be removed.  Removing base boards from the walls will usually result in paint chipping (so it would be a shame to do this after you freshly painted the walls).  Sometimes, the new height of the floor and base boards are different, and this can result in a gap on the walls where there is no paint...hence another reason to paint afterwards.


westchester county hardwood flooring and paintingNext, you install the floors.  If it's prefinished hardwood, you just nail it in and then take care of the baseboards/quarterround around the perimeter of the room.  If it's unfinished hardwood, then you have to sand and stain the floors.  This process will usually result in scuffing up the baseboards and some stain on the sides of the base boards.  Hence, the base boards need to be painted afterwards. Occasionally, the sanding process will result in minor scuffing to the walls as the guys maneuver the machines.

 

engineered hardwood floors westchester county NYMost of the painters I work with prefer to paint the walls AFTER we have completed the flooring.  They are confident that their guys will cover the floors and do a neat job.  They want the finished product to be perfect and they know this is a better way to achieve this result.  It is also avoids having to come back for a separate trip to paint the base boards.

 

We have also worked with some painters who prefer to paint first, and then they will come back and touch up afterwards, but I believe the above outlined process is usually the ideal as the work product is the best and it takes less time.

 

painting and hardwood flooring westchester county NYI worked with many customers that did not realize this is the ideal sequence of events.  Sometimes, they just painted.  It's too bad, because now they have to either pay the painters to come back again to touch up and repaint base boards, or else they need to do the work themselves.  It's too bad, since it would have been avoidable if they had asked the contractors.

 

Now, if the homeowner is the one painting, I will usually advise them to paint first (since they are less confident in their abilities and more likely to damage the floors) and then paint the base boards after we do the floors.  Also, I have seen many variations on this theme (e.g. prime and do first coat of paint, then floors, then last coat of paint and base boards). 

 

Is it better to paint or do the floors first?

Comments (24)

Bobbie Smith
Stroudsburg, PA
570-242-1891

Morning Debbie, I would not have thought of it that way so I'm very glad you posted these thoughts. Going to re-blog so my followers know the wisest answers. Thank you.

May 21, 2012 09:11 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

While I think most people would consider that order of operation to be counter intuitive, I think it is the right approach too!

May 21, 2012 09:16 PM
Joe Petrowsky
Mortgage Consultant, Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS # 2709 - Manchester, CT
Your Mortgage Consultant for Life

I'm not sure there is a right answer, we have done it both ways. No matter what, I always want to prep the walls first. It is very important to have the right people doing the work, that make all the difference.

May 21, 2012 09:30 PM
Mark Delgado
houses for rent, Solano County & Glen Cove - Benicia, CA
Benicia and Vallejo, Property Management, rental h
Great reasons given for the different options. I like your informative approach so that folks in different situations can still turn to you for advice. There is rarely a single "right" answer and you've outlined the variations nicely.
May 21, 2012 09:35 PM
Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Bobbie - I"m glad I was able to share something new and thank you for the reblog.

Jay - Yes, I think order of operations here is critical.

Joe - Yes, having the right people is critical, regardless of order.

Mark - Thx so much. Yes, there certainly are variations on the theme, and you're right that in some circumstances things may differ.

May 21, 2012 09:38 PM
Ginny Gorman
RI Real Estate Services ~ 401-529-7849~ RI Waterfront Real Estate - North Kingstown, RI
Homes for Sale in Southern RI and beyond

Deb, great advice for all to follow...I'm a neatnik in painting everything has to be just so...but my kitchen which is cathedral ceiling is not for me to do...i will pass this along to clients..this is a great guest post to send me!

May 21, 2012 09:41 PM
Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Ginny - Thx so much.  Yes, I'm happy to do a guest post on this.  I will try to get to over the weekend.

May 21, 2012 09:45 PM
David Popoff
DMK Real Estate - Darien, CT
Realtor®,SRS, Green ~ Fairfield County, Ct

Debbie excellent scheduling on a renovation project, thanks for the tips. Bookmarked.

May 21, 2012 09:56 PM
Anita Clark
Coldwell Banker Access Realty ~ 478.960.8055 - Warner Robins, GA
Realtor - Homes for Sale in Warner Robins GA

Debbie: The sequence of events makes logical sense to me.  Thanks for this very informative post.

May 21, 2012 10:28 PM
Joanna Cohlan
Fresh Eyes For Your Home - Chappaqua, NY
Designing, Decorating & Staging Westchester Homes

Thanks for this Debbie, I am going to bookmark because I get this question frequently and btw, working on getting the kitchen project in order-things are moving along!!

May 21, 2012 11:17 PM
Jeffrey Funk
eXp Realty - Windermere, FL
Broker Associate | Team Leader

Debbie - The order of work you explain, makes sense. Great post, thank you for sharing!

Jeff

May 22, 2012 01:29 AM
Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

Debbie, A really professional painter will protect the floors and have no problem with spillage. Besides if they were to paint first the flooring people almost always ding the walls or touch them with dirty hands even without knowing it.

May 22, 2012 01:37 AM
Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

David - Excellent.  I hope it comes in handy.

Anita - Thank you and you are welcome

Joanna - Excellent and excellent.  I'm so excited for you.

Jeffrey - Good.  I'm glad to hear it makes sense.

Debbie - Oh yes, that is so true!

May 22, 2012 01:52 AM
Anonymous
MattA

This makes a lot of sense. But for some contractors, breaking up the work such that the prep is done, then there's a several day break, then they come back to do the painting, is a problem. It's not enough time for them to get another job in, so they're sitting idle. Or worse for the homeowner, they take another job, and then aren't ready to come back and paint right away when it's time, pushing the whole schedule out. That can make a big difference when people are trying to get a lot of work done on a new house before they move into it. I've also witnessed enough cases where contractors claimed that they'd start work on a certain day and didn't, that I'm always hesitant to make the schedule more complicated than it needs to be. The best contractor can handle it fine, but sometimes it's hard to know until it's too late.

There are a lot of competing factors at play.

May 22, 2012 02:24 AM
#18
Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Matt - You're right, there are lots of factors to consider.  We've been able to work it out well with the painters and given floor drying times, we have not had issues (as we were able to plan), but I could seeing that being an issue for some.  If someone is moving into a new home and has limited time, refinishing the floors must happen before they move in while, if need be, paint could happen afterwards, so that's another factor.

The key point here is to think it through and discuss with the contractors.  Every job is different, so plans can be adapted based on the needs of project, homeowner and contractor availability.

May 22, 2012 04:29 AM
Janis Borgueta
Key Properties of the Hudson Valley - Newburgh, NY
LIC RE Salesperson

Great tips on this... as people do ask about the process and what order they should be done.

May 22, 2012 06:01 AM
George Souto
George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages - Middletown, CT
Your Connecticut Mortgage Expert

Debbie I did not even think of the damage that could be done to the walls, I was just thinking about paint on the floor, but what you said makes sense.

May 22, 2012 10:06 AM
Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Janis - Thx so much.

George - I know...that is what so many people think.  They don't realize all of the other potential damage.

May 22, 2012 12:49 PM
Scott Hayes
(512) 786-8300 - Austin, TX
Realty Austin, Broker Associate

Debbie,

 

This is one of those posts I'm going to bookmark for sellers in the future. Informative as usual

May 24, 2012 11:22 AM
Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

Scott - Thank you so much and I hope your buyers and sellers find it helpful.

May 24, 2012 11:41 AM

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