Countrywide Home Loans - Sailing or Sinking?

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Today's news on Countrywide Home Loans brought back flash backs of the American Home Mortgage Crash...

Shares of Countrywide Financial (NYSE: CFC) plunged today on reports that the company was nearing bankruptcy. The stock has recovered somewhat since the company put out a statement saying that "There is no substance to the rumor that Countrywide is planning to file for bankruptcy, and we are not aware of any basis for the rumor that any of the major rating agencies are contemplating negative action relative to the company."


This all sounds  like the same rumors and denials that AHM had floating around and within a few days of their rumors and denials AHM crashed and burned..

I for one hope that Countrywide Home Loans can manage to stay a float since we have a great working relationship with them but it's pretty scary how similar the news is.

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Adam Brett
The Adam and Eric Group - Fullerton, CA
The Adam and Eric Group, Fullerton's Finest
I would not be surprised but they only have so much working capital and really no idea of their exposure.  I would not want to be employed by them right now.
Jan 08, 2008 02:27 PM #1
Natalie Langford
Realty Negotiations - Winchester, VA
Winchester, VA Real Estate
Well, I happen to be a very happy and satisfied customer, so I pray they can make it through. 
Jan 08, 2008 02:30 PM #2
Paige Rausch
Fort Myers, FL

From Bloomberg: Countrywide Loses Most Since 1987 on Bankruptcy Bets

Countrywide Financial Corp. dropped the most in two decades on the New York Stock Exchange amid speculation the largest U.S. mortgage lender will file for bankruptcy.
``There's some sort of rumor that they would go under, but it's purely a rumor,'' said Thomas Garcia, head of trading at Thornburg Investment Management, which oversees about $50 billion in Santa Fe, New Mexico.
From Reuters: Countrywide Financial denies bankruptcy rumors
"There is no substance to the rumor that Countrywide is planning to file for bankruptcy, and we are not aware of any basis for the rumor that any of the major rating agencies are contemplating negative action relative to the company," Countrywide said in a statement.
Jan 08, 2008 02:38 PM #3
Paul McFadden

Leo:  It could be only a matter of time.  When there's blood in the water, there's trouble.  I'm not sure Countrywide has either the liquidity or the borrowing power to survive.  The other larger financial institutions (think Citigroup, UBS, Merrill Lynch) can borrow money against their assets.  Countrywide is tapped out.  I'm not sure even we would lend them money at this point. We'll see what happens.  At some point, BofA may get one heckuva buy. The next 30 days or so could be very telling.  Have a nice night.



Jan 08, 2008 03:18 PM #4

CW's strength may also be its weakness - that gazillion dollar portfolio can be very profitable, but with defaults at ridiculous levels, just how profitable is it currently? A failing CW is an extremely bad thing for the industry. I know there are plenty who would do a jig if CW went out, but overall the effects would be devastating and would likely lead to swift government oversight.

1 massive loss in 25 years typically won't kill a company - Q4 results are to be released in late January - could it be that traders are bashing the stock in anticipation of a good earnings report, setting themselves up for a hefty profit? It would be interesting to see who is buying big blocks of stock right now.


Jan 08, 2008 04:50 PM #5
Linda Peters
Salem Five Mortgage Company - York, ME
Hello folks   -  given that I am employed by Countrywide, it is unsettling.   I love this company and its philosophies, but it does rattle the nerves and makes it difficult to keep my brokers confident in a market where there are fewer loans to go around.   Hence, I am on AR at 5 a.m.!!!    Will be interesting to see what today brings.    Kemshtn, you make an interesting point.... let's hope there is some merit to it.
Jan 08, 2008 08:12 PM #6
Mike Tullio
Guaranteed Rate NMLS# 2611 - Sarasota, FL
VP of Mortgage Lending
Leo.  I think CW may be a takeover target.  Someone like Wachovia or B of A could come in and get a pretty good bargain, especially at these valuations.  Like you said, this is a huge player in the mortgage game and it would do some serious damage to our economic psyche if they implode.
Jan 09, 2008 01:40 AM #7
Leo Namiot CT Low Rate Mortgages - Litchfield, CT
CT Mortgage Lender - FHA, VA - Jumbo Mortgages

I see all the same signs that where there when AHM went belly up, I know a bunch of people who worked at AHM here in CT went to Countrywide and if this happens again to them it can be devastating. I worked at AHN for about 3-1/2 yrs and loved the company but am glad I was not caught up when the-ship sunk and people were left without getting their loans funded, I acn't imagine that happening to those LO's again with another company, that does not go over well with referral partners.

Jan 09, 2008 01:50 AM #8
Gary Miljour
loanDepot - Southern Pines, NC
Mortgage Originator NMLS Licensed in AZ and NC


I agree, I do not want to see Countrywide fail, since they are a correspondent lender, however the rumors flying are pretty scary. 

Jan 09, 2008 04:42 AM #9
A dissatisfied customer
I, for one, wish they would go bankrupt.  We were in a bankruptcy ourselves and the trustee and our attorney have filed a class action lawsuit because for a whole year they were not applying our payments to our mortgage.  They are the worst company to deal with and should not be in the business.  I hope they start applying our payments soon, our mortgage isn't being paid like it should.
Jan 10, 2008 08:18 AM #10
Don Draughn - Mortgage Professional
High Point, NC
I guess the news of today with B or A buying CW should change a lot of peoples' minds.
Jan 11, 2008 06:55 AM #11
Joyce "Joy" Mahaney Brewster
High Profile Realty - Glendale, AZ
Well, I guess now we know why CW stock was $5.00 a share recently.
Jan 11, 2008 10:53 AM #12
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