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Benevolence and Right Conduct

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A couple weeks ago I emailed an old acquaintance of mine.  He works for a local mortgage brokerage, so, being in the title industry, I wrote to ask if he’d like to get together for lunch.  When I got a response, the reply was brief and to the point: “Good to hear from you!... Do you have any clients that you’d be able to refer my way?”

 

The implication was clear: There would be no lunch meeting unless I had clients to refer.  The email set the tone for any future relationship, which would be based on a mercantile client exchange.  My cost of entry to do business would be to provide business.

 

Taking the emotion out of it, that does make perfect sense.  After all, I try to work only with people who are going to refer their commercial title and escrow clients to Stewart Title.  What gave me pause was the brevity and sharpness of the message.  I didn’t have any clients to refer at the time, and so I didn’t know how to immediately reply without sounding foolish.

 

Then, last night, I was reading a book on Chinese history, and came across the following passage:

 

“Famous, too, are the opening words of conversation between Mencius [a traveling scholar] and King Hui of Liang.  `Venerable sir,’ said the King, `since you have not counted a thousand [miles] too far to come, may I presume that you also have something that can profit my state?’  `Why,’ replied Mencius, `must your majesty necessarily use that word profit?  What I also have are the topics of benevolence and right conduct, and nothing more.”

 

There, from about 2500 years ago, was my reply!  First, whether I have clients to refer or not, I have “benevolence.”  I’m friendly and I’m eager to help others.  I belong to numerous professional and networking organizations.  Also, I am employed by a company with offices across North America and over 80 foreign markets.  So I am well-connected locally, nationally, and internationally.  Secondly, I have “right conduct.”  I have over 16 years of experience in the legal and title insurance industries.  I have worked with and for banks, law firms, mortgage brokerages, financial services companies, title agencies and- now- a publicly traded title insurance underwriter.  So I am an excellent resource for anyone involved with any aspect of real estate or lending. 

I am glad my acquaintance sent me the email he did- Otherwise I might have missed the message contained in the history book.  Being given cause to examine my own expertise and resources has led me to two realizations: 1) a renewed perspective on what I can offer besides an even-up exchange of client referrals; and 2) a renewed sense of confidence.  I do have “benevolence” and “right conduct,” and, indeed, I need nothing more!

Karen Fiddler, Broker/Owner
Karen Parsons-Fiddler, Broker 949-510-2395 - Mission Viejo, CA
Orange County & Lake Arrowhead, CA (949)510-2395

I understand what you're trying to say....but I think he was rude. If you were friendly before, lunch could be just to chat about family. Nothing wrong with that. As you say...your value is not just a client for him, but he should have seen that lunch without a new lead is also valuable.

On an interesting side note, the AR word at the bottom of this comment was "yang-yang" :)

Jun 12, 2012 12:59 AM
Edward & Celia Maddox
The Celtic Connection Realty - Queen Creek, AZ
EXPERIENCE & INTEGRITY - WE TAKE THE HIGH ROAD

Even if you are succesful, you need to be able to live with yourself.  Thoughtfulness goes a long way.

Jun 12, 2012 01:01 AM
Andrew Capelli
Troy, MI

Karen: That is funny about the AR comment!  :)  As for my friend, I am assuming he didn't mean to be rude and that he was just "cutting to the chase."  It was unsettling enough, though, to cause me not to respond right away.  Thank you for the feedback!

Edward & Celia: Both well-said and very true!  Thank you for the comment!

Jun 12, 2012 01:06 AM
Dick Greenberg
New Paradigm Partners LLC - Fort Collins, CO
Northern Colorado Residential Real Estate

Hi Andrew - Good post. I'm usually willing to connect, for social reasons if no other. But in all honesty, I don't trade referral for referral with people in other aspects of the industry. I use my lender and title company solely on the basis of how well they perform in their own sphere. I wouldn't use a lender simply because he provided me with a referral - that's secondary to getting the job done for my clients.

Jun 12, 2012 02:14 AM
Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

Great post and food for thought for all of us.  Relationships have to be built before most referrals.

Have an outstanding week!

Jun 12, 2012 02:18 AM
Andrew Capelli
Troy, MI

Thanks, Dick!  I'm encouraged by your comment, too- I'd like to think the mercenary mindset is in the minority, and that most people prefer to simply deal with the vendors that provide the best service.

Jun 12, 2012 02:20 AM
Andrew Capelli
Troy, MI

Roy: Thank you- Have a great week, also!  :)

Jun 12, 2012 02:21 AM
Jill Sackler
Charles Rutenberg Realty Inc. 516-575-7500 - Long Beach, NY
LI South Shore Real Estate - Broker Associate

You just happened to be reading a book on chinese history? That's funny although it worked out perfectly. I hope you emailed your "friend" that little quote.

Jun 12, 2012 11:41 AM
Toni Weidman
Sailwinds Realty - Trinity, FL
20+ Years Selling Homes in New Port Richey, FL

I have to agree with Dick; I use lenders and title people that do a great job for my sellers and buyers. Not because they would send me more business. I also agree with those who thought you're friend was rude but perhaps he was busy and having a bad day--that happens to all of us :)

Jun 12, 2012 10:21 PM
Andrew Capelli
Troy, MI

Jill: I guess I'm eccentric, but yes, I really was reading a biography of Li Ssu, and it did work out perfectly.  As the saying goes, "When the student is ready, the master will appear."  :)

Toni: Thanks for the input- I am assuming I just caught my friend on a bad day, too.  Hopefully he'll be in a better mood the next time I talk to him!

Jun 13, 2012 06:14 AM
Susan Emo
Sotheby's International Realty Canada - Brokerage - Kingston, ON
Kingston and the 1000 Islands Area

I too think the response was rude.  People need to understand how they come across to others, especially with the written word.

PS  I love your choice of reading material - I'm so sick of people thinking they're so well read because they've read 50 Shades or Grey or The Hunger Games, LOL

Jun 14, 2012 01:32 AM
Andrew Capelli
Troy, MI

Susan: Thanks for the feedback, including your "PS."  I do enjoy reading across a lot of genres, both fiction and nonfiction.  I don't know if I qualify as "well read" yet, but I'm working on it!  :)

Jun 14, 2012 01:43 AM
Regina P. Brown
MBA Broker Consultants - Carlsbad, CA
M.B.A., Broker, Instructor

Andrew, I agree with Roy.  Relationships have to be built before referrals.  I hope that your friend will also realize that.  Thanks for sharing those words of wisdom from that Chinese book!

Jun 17, 2012 05:03 PM
Andrew Capelli
Troy, MI

Regina: You are welcome, and thank you for the feedback!  :)

Jun 18, 2012 12:56 AM