Dick Greenberg
New Paradigm Partners LLC - Fort Collins, CO
Northern Colorado Residential Real Estate

Hi Charita - We haven't had that scenario come up for us either, so it will be interesting to see what the inspectors have to say. We have had other, unsucessful buyers try to sell us the home inspection they did on the same property when our clients had subsequent contracts, but we declined, since it didn't feel right.

Jun 25, 2012 03:14 AM
Charita Cadenhead
eXp Realty - Birmingham, AL
Serving Jefferson and Shelby Counties (Alabama)

Dick I know how it works with appraisals, but this has been a mystery for me for some time now.  I hope I get an answer.

Jun 25, 2012 04:21 AM
Anna Banana Kruchten CRS, CRB, Phoenix Broker
HomeSmart Real Estate BR030809000 - Phoenix, AZ
602-380-4886

Charita interesting question.  I've not run into this so I don't know.  Here it's up to the buyer to do all inspections and we would be ill advised to only rely on some other buyers or how owners inspection report. That could open a can of worms.  As for what the inspector would do.....that's interesting.

Jun 25, 2012 05:08 AM
Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

Very good questions.  I've never run across these things, probably won't, but one never knows.  In my local market the buyer who paid for the inspection is the one who owns the report. I've run across agents asking me for a copy of the report in the case where my clients revoked their offer and another buyer has come in . . . but they never get it ;-)  Good questions and hope some inspectors chime in. 

Jun 25, 2012 08:37 AM
Charita Cadenhead
eXp Realty - Birmingham, AL
Serving Jefferson and Shelby Counties (Alabama)

Anna and Carla I guess it's not that common.  It just makes you wonder.  I know that locally, there are some inspectors that agents commonly use with a great deal of frequency because of the quality of their work and there excellent reputation.

 

Jun 25, 2012 11:36 PM
Kathryn Maguire
GreatNorfolkHomes.com (757) 560-0881 - Chesapeake, VA
Serving Chesapeake, Norfolk, VA Beach

I suppose it is possible that a seller was provided a report on the issues the inspector found, the buyer walked, and the seller made repairs so it could mean that he would still be looking with fresh eyes to make sure that those repairs were done correctly. However, I would hope they would disclose this to the buyer so that the buyer could make a decision on whether they want a different inspector.

Jun 26, 2012 03:22 AM
Charita Cadenhead
eXp Realty - Birmingham, AL
Serving Jefferson and Shelby Counties (Alabama)

Kathryn I was having that same discussion about the seller having made repairs since the inspection.  I guess it is also possible for them to catch something that they may have overlooked. This has been puzzling me for some time.  I was hoping that I'd get some honest feedback from home inspectors. I guess I'll have to be curious a bit longer, but you make a valid point.

Jun 26, 2012 03:32 AM
Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

Charita, many years ago I had a listing where the Inspection Company was the same but different inspector and the buyers paid full price. We gave the report to the buyer before the inspection (during the negotiations) and they knew that it was the same company. Interestingly the new inspector found other items in addition to the previous inspector's report which the buyers gave him...

Jun 26, 2012 02:03 PM
Charita Cadenhead
eXp Realty - Birmingham, AL
Serving Jefferson and Shelby Counties (Alabama)

Endre I am not surprised that they found some other items.  I know inspectors do a very good job overall.  But it's believeable that they could miss something.  I would hope that it wasn't a major oversight because that would be a bif problem.

Jun 27, 2012 12:15 AM
Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

Charita, that is a very good question, and I have never come across this yet either!    I put a call into my tired and true home inspector to see what he has to say and will get back to you.

Jun 29, 2012 07:54 AM
Charita Cadenhead
eXp Realty - Birmingham, AL
Serving Jefferson and Shelby Counties (Alabama)

Thanks Joan.  I hope you come back with an answer. I was hoping that more AR inspectors would weigh in on this.  I hope they didn't think this was some type of attack on them.

Jun 29, 2012 08:12 AM
Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time
666,854 Points 27 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Charita, I think my inspector did think that too, as there was MUCH more in his response, but here is a cut and paste of his first (and most important) part of his answer.

"I would not be disclosing anything from the first inspection. Prior to doing any inspection I have my clients sign an inspection agreement. Part of the agreement includes me not discussing or sharing the report with anyone other than that client without the clients written approval."


I have to agree there are things that do change in a home, and could have different items come up on the second inspection.

 

Jun 29, 2012 01:17 PM
Brenda Mullen
RE/MAX Access - Schertz, TX
Your San Antonio TX Real Estate Agent!!

It seems that Joan's answer from her inspector is a good one for another post we were discussing earlier.  I do wonder if inspectors have a "disclosure" requirement if something came up on the first inpsection that wasn't dealt with and now they are inspecting again.  It's too bad many inspectors didn't weigh in.  I think I will direct an AR member here to your post that is an inspector to see what he has to say.  

Good questions.

Jul 02, 2012 11:47 AM
Charita Cadenhead
eXp Realty - Birmingham, AL
Serving Jefferson and Shelby Counties (Alabama)

Joan I read your response the other day from my cell phone and forgot to respond once I got online.  What you inspector said makes sense, but would he say to the new buyer "I have recently inspected this home, I'll have to check with the previous buyer to see if it's okay to disclose or would he say, I have recently inspected this home but certainly there could have been things that have changed so another inspection may yield different results.

Brenda since we talk, the "disclosure" requirement has been lingering in my mind.  That's adds a ver interesting twist, particularly since you mentioned the stringent code that we abide by.

Jul 02, 2012 12:06 PM
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Jul 05, 2012 02:43 AM
Anonymous
Jim Waddell

Our company does a lot of inspections in the Birmingham area and we see the same house over and over again. 

Of course every transaction is different but normally the first thing we do is to let the client know we have inspected the house before and offer them an updated verison if the house was inspected within a couple of weeks.  We also offer re inspecting the items we flagged and offer a discount.  We have in the past sold the inspection and passed the money back to prior client with everyone knowing.

We have to always remind ourselves that we represent the house as well as our past and present clients.

 

Jim

A B Home Inspections, Inc.

Jul 06, 2012 03:53 AM
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Charita Cadenhead
eXp Realty - Birmingham, AL
Serving Jefferson and Shelby Counties (Alabama)

Thanks Jim for weighing in and you have answered my very specific questions.  I'm glad to have had an inspector respond firsthand.  One of the questions that I have buyers ask inspectors is if the inspectors will come back to see if requested repairs have been made (as part of the service and as part of the inspection fee).  It had not been my experience to have an inspection charge an additional fee for this, but I guess just like agents, everyone operates differently.

Jul 06, 2012 08:09 AM
Anonymous
Jim Waddell

Charita,

Great question about the re inspection fee. 

We have found that Real Estate Agents ask about the re inspections and not so much the clients themselves.

We only do about 2 re inspections a month.  Most of the time it isn't required because the repairs have been made by a professional who has issued paperwork and warranties.  On the reinspections we do we ask for the paperwork.  As home inspectors we can not warrant someone else's work. 

2 years ago we noticed other home inspectors in the Birmingham area were raising their fees and offering free re inspections.  We did not like that ideal and did not think it was fair to most of our regular clients.  That makes the question "How much for Free re inspection?"  Free should be free.

Newer inspectors will offer free re inspections with lower priced home inpsections but that is normally short lived.  

I think you are right on with the different agents and different inspectors doing different things at different times.  I think 10 years ago my answer might be different than today. 

 

Jim Waddell

www.abhomeinspections.com

 

Jul 07, 2012 12:30 AM
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Charita Cadenhead
eXp Realty - Birmingham, AL
Serving Jefferson and Shelby Counties (Alabama)

Thanks Jim for coming back and following up.  I guess we can both agree that people run their businesses differently and there is no right or wrong way.  It's a choice people make.  By the way, keep a look out for an email from me inviting you to join Active Rain. Birmingham can use more members to contribute regularly so I hope you'll accept the invitation.

Jul 07, 2012 08:48 PM
Gay E. Rosen
Julia B. Fee Sotheby's International Realty - Larchmont, NY
As Real as Real Estate Gets!

Hi CHarita  - I always thought that the inspection belonged to the buyer and could not be resold unless with the written permission of the buyer... SO, if buyer number 2 wants the home.. I would rather feel that there should be disclosure by the inspection company that they had already inspected the home... and then either approach the first buyers for permission for their resale (no the isnpector's resale), or suggest the buyers go to another inspection company...  Just my 2 cents.

Jul 09, 2012 06:34 AM
Jennifer Fivelsdal
JFIVE Home Realty LLC | 845-758-6842|162 Deer Run Rd Red Hook NY 12571 - Rhinebeck, NY
Mid Hudson Valley real estate connection

Charita I have had experience where the inspector offered the inspection at a discount with the permission of the previous client.   Most buys opt to have their own inspection and it is amazing how often something important was missed during the previous inspection.

Jul 09, 2012 03:17 PM
Charita Cadenhead
eXp Realty - Birmingham, AL
Serving Jefferson and Shelby Counties (Alabama)
Gay I keep hearing "with first buyers permission" and I wonder how buyers receive that request or how receptive they are. There just seems to be something unsettling about the system.
Jul 09, 2012 05:42 PM
Charita Cadenhead
eXp Realty - Birmingham, AL
Serving Jefferson and Shelby Counties (Alabama)
Jennifer I think a home cold be inspected 50 times and all 50 times, I suspect that something will be overlooked. EVERY time. And I don't mean that to be a discredit to the inspector.
Jul 09, 2012 05:44 PM
John McCormack, CRS
Albuquerque Homes Realty - Albuquerque, NM
Honesty, Integrity, Results, Experienced. HIRE Me!

So far I haven't had to deal with this.  I would think each inspection would bring a different set of to do's. 

Jul 09, 2012 10:25 PM
Charita Cadenhead
eXp Realty - Birmingham, AL
Serving Jefferson and Shelby Counties (Alabama)

Neither have I John and the more I think about it, the more I agree that new things can always pop up and even somethings that may have been overlooked before.

Jul 09, 2012 10:30 PM
Bryan Robertson
Los Altos, CA

I've never had this situation come up but when I asked a home inspector I work with, he said that even if he had already inspected a home he would come out and do the same process he did the first time.  The point is that an inspection done a week after another on the same house could be different if the owner did something.

Jul 12, 2012 05:54 AM
David Burrows
Classic Realty - Fairfax, VA
No Pressure, Just Seriously Devoted to Real Estate

I am not a home inspector, but you pose an interesting question. Of course over time and depending on current owners, the situation with a particular house can change and perhaps the Home Inspector truly earns whatever he/she receives for the job.

Jul 16, 2012 08:59 PM