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Finding Fun Flipper Fodder

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Home Inspector with Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC 3380-000723

It isn't hard to do and it's always something to post after finding fun flipper fodder.

Going downstairs I immediately noticed that the staircase was sans handrail.

Mentioning that to my clients they said when they asked about one, Flipper (not his real name) told them he had looked up the code.

The code told him that the requirements said this staircase was not "wide" enough for a handrail.

To that I said, "Ummmm..."  Direct quote.

This staircase is actually wider than a lot at 38". 

It certainly requires a handrail.

So I had a little fun with it.

On the report I included links to local County and International Residency Code (IRC) mentions as regards handrail installations and requirements.

Let's just say that those links virtually inundate people with information!

There are requirements about everything!  When one is necessary, how high, its thickness and how far from the wall, shapes - it goes on and on!

There are diagrams showing measurements, specificity as to strength, continuity along a wall, where on the wall it should end (top and bottom), well, you name it, the many, many codes show it.

I can only hope Flipper felt pure gratitude at my helpfulness!

Yes, I'm sure he did!

My recommendation:  your home inspector is likely to be just as helpful with information and instruction as you go about understanding the needs your house, even your NEW house, must satisfy.  And remember, the code requirements represent a MINIMUM standard and there is no reason your builder, or Flipper, can't exceed them!

 

 

Posted by

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comments(40)

Bill Gillhespy
16 Sunview Blvd - Fort Myers Beach, FL
Fort Myers Beach Realtor, Fort Myers Beach Agent - Homes & Condos

Hi Jay,  I can just see the agent tap dancin' around the answer while trying to divert the buyers' attention.

Jul 15, 2012 04:30 AM
Eric Michael
Remerica Integrity, Realtors®, Northville, MI - Livonia, MI
Metro Detroit Real Estate Professional 734.564.1519

A Flipper who tried to cut a few corners? Unheard of! haha Jay, every home should have a professional home inspection. Even the pretty ones.

Jul 15, 2012 04:37 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Debbie - he loves me now, for sure!  I think he was saying that the stairs needed to be real wide to require a handrail.

Yeah, but Fred, there's that hook at the end to slow your fall.

Debbie - not sure how you put a receptacle in a moving island!

Kathryn - I'm pretty sure too.  Let me go count.  Just a minute.

Back - yep, it has more than three!

Jul 15, 2012 05:59 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Jim - you lone wolf, you!  Imagine, there was really info out there?

Caron's - this was a wider-than-usual staircase!  A handrail could not crimp anyone's style.

Randy - he never looked anything up.  He was blowing smoke to get them off his back, with the specious mention of the code "requirements."  The code(s) is/are pretty specific!

Morgan - if you look at the staircase, it would have meant a lot of angled cuts.  He didn't want to deal with it.

Jul 15, 2012 06:03 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Wayne - the game is to sell the house, sell the house, sell the house.

Joshua - at the very least!  I like a handrail and I am not 83.

I agree Eileen.  And there are so many specifics that there is no room for interpretation!

Fernando - you are right.  I would never trust a flipper's code interpretation either!

Jul 15, 2012 06:09 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Robert - I never spoke with him, but my clients did!  There is not much to argue over here anyway!

Rob - there's that hook at the end to slow the fall too.  Between the two I think we're good.

Adrian - common sense, good sense - whatever - they are often not present in new construction and remodeling!

Evelyn - being so narrow one can hold onto each wall as they go up and down!  Is my turret room ready yet?

Jul 15, 2012 06:13 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

That's it in a nutshell Charlie.  And for the really wide staircases, well, just go up and down two by two and three by three.

Tatyana - that would be a fun way to go through life!  Wake up and be something new every day...

Bill - nothing up my sleeve!  Bunny in the hat!

The prettier the better Eric!  And the prettier the more the need to inspect!

Jul 15, 2012 06:15 AM
Charlie Dresen
The Group, Inc - Steamboat Springs, CO
Steamboat Springs, CO e-Pro

Yeah... for some reason, I doubt he was very happy!

Jul 15, 2012 08:58 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

He might have a little more work to do Charlie!  I hope so anyway.

Jul 15, 2012 09:13 AM
Gary Frimann, CRS, GRI, SRES
Eagle Ridge Realty / Signature Homes & Estates - Gilroy, CA
REALTOR and Broker

Was this house being flipped?  I did not catch that.  Yes, folks, there is a code for everything-- even stuff you have never thought about.

Jul 15, 2012 11:14 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Yes, Gary, the word appears many times, including the builder's "name," to indicate that.

Jul 15, 2012 11:21 AM
Pamela Seley
West Coast Realty Division - Murrieta, CA
Residential Real Estate Agent serving SW RivCo CA

Well, those Flipper types like to do only the bare minimum. Glad you straightend him out! Thanks for your post today,

Jul 15, 2012 05:10 PM
James Dray
Fathom Realty - Bentonville, AR

Morning Jay where do people come up with these ideas?  Anyway congratulations on the feature and I hope you have a good day

Jul 15, 2012 08:43 PM
Kenneth Cole
Weichert Realtors Appleseed Group, 2043 Richmond Ave. S.I.N.Y. 10314. office phone 718-698-9797, Appleseedhomes.com... - Staten Island, NY
NYS Licensed Real Estate Salesperson

I guess that's why most accidents happen in our own homes.

Jul 15, 2012 09:08 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Pamela - I am hoping my clients straightened him out!

James - he was blowing smoke, not having read any code anywhere.  He didn't want to do the rail because of all the turns it needed.

Ken - the codes are there for reasons, and one of the biggest reason is safety!

Jul 15, 2012 09:20 PM
Sally K. & David L. Hanson
EXP Realty 414-525-0563 - Brookfield, WI
WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce

Sounds like Flip can read a tape measure....or want an FHA buyer....safety related issues are always flagged loudly.

Jul 15, 2012 10:11 PM
Keith Lawrence
Christie's International - Mahwah, NJ
ABR, SFR

Good catch.  If they were try to save less than $100 dollars on the hand rail what other corners were they try to cut.

Jul 15, 2012 10:15 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

This is a very expensive house, S&D, almost $2mil (!), so I doubt FHA would be interested!  But I am!

Exactly Keith.  And they try to save it in any way they can!

Jul 15, 2012 10:24 PM
Mike McCann Nebraska Land Broker
Mike McCann - Broker, Mach1 Realty Farm & Commercial Land Broker-Auctioneer Serving Nebraska - Kearney, NE
Farm & Commercial Property For Sale 308-627-3700

What is it with handrails...or rather the lack of them?  I think that is one of the things I see missing most in a home when I walk through it....  That and the obvious lack of a experienced caulking professional.

Jul 16, 2012 12:00 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Handrails are an obvious characteristic of stairways Mike, or should be.  As to caulking, I have always said that builders could not build anything without caulk!  But most caulkERS stink.

Jul 16, 2012 01:23 AM