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The 3.8% Real Estate Tax Rumor is Back and Gaining Ground

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Real Estate Agent with RE/MAX Realty South WA State: 75600

Way back in September of 2010, I wrote a blog post about an email message that was circulating regarding an 3.8% real estate tax that was included as part of President Obama's healthcare plan. At that time, the messages were aimed at overturning the Healthcare plan itself. Now that the Supreme Court has upheld the plan, it seems that the goal is to advise the general public that real estate agents won't be voting for President Obama.

you have mailBecause this message is so pervasive, I decided to address this subject again.

I've received a similarly worded message no less than eight times in the past three days. At the bottom of this post I've attached the message thread I received yesterday from a very savvy client.

Sigh ... this is just another not true email circulation that's gaining ground again because of the upcoming election.

The facts? -- There is not a 3.8% real estate tax for ALL real estate transactions starting in 2013. But there IS a 3.8% investment tax on profits for people who meet a high capital gains threshold.

investmentIn a nutshell, the 3.8% tax (called the Medicare tax -- it has nothing to do with real estate), will be imposed on investment income only for individuals with a net income above $200,000 or couples with a joint net income of more than $250,000. Further, it's then imposed only for transactions with a taxable gain above $250,000 per individual or $500,000 per couple. And then there are yet further conditions that control the taxable amount.
 
Realistically, there are VERY few people that will be impacted by this amount because capital gains on real estate sales don't take effect until after a profit from sale of $500,000 is reached (for couples) or $250,000 (for single filers) otheir net real estate investment income.
 
For example, if a high income couple making $260,000 TAXABLE INCOME on their tax return should sell a property with a net capital gain of $600,000, then they would pay a 3.8% tax on the lesser of:
 
  • capital gainsThe amount of taxable income generated by the sale = $100,000. 3.8% of $100,000 is $3,800

or

  • The amount by which their taxable income exceeds the $250,000 taxable income level= $10,000. 3.8% of $10,000 is $380
 
It's important to realize that the tax isn't on real estate -- it's on investment income. And, frankly, although we all hope that our home is a fantastic investment and that we're going to make oodles of money on it, if that does come true and we're also a high income wage earner, then perhaps it's only right that we share a small portion of our wealth in the form of taxes.
 
Refer anyone that sends this message to you back to Snopes.com at http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/realestate.asp
 
So ... back to the subject of the message: "You should read this regardless of political leaning so that you are aware of it." ... Yep ... they should read THIS message regardless of political leaning.
 
 

----- Original Message -----
 
Sent: 7/16/2012 2:27:00 PM
Subject: FW: Home Sales Tax-effective Jan. 1, 2013 You should read this regardless of political leaning so that you are aware of it.

This came from a friend in CA; is this a true story? I trust you and believe you will know.

Marilyn

 

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I've talked to realtor friends and this is true! I'm not trying to bad mouth anyone, but it is something that will affect every single one of us who owns property.

 


Subject: Home Sales Tax-effective Jan. 1, 2013

Very important!!!!

------------------------------------------------------------ When does your home become part of your health care? After 2012!
Your vote counts big time in 2012, make sure you and all your friends and family know about this !
HOME SALES TAX
I thought you might find this interesting, -- maybe even SICKENING!
The National Association of Realtors is all over this and working to get it repealed, -- before it takes effect. But, I am very pleased we aren't the only ones who know about this ploy to steal billions from unsuspecting homeowners. How many realtors do you think will vote Democratic in 2012?
Did you know that if you sell your house after 2012 you will pay a 3.8% sales tax on it? That's $3,800 on a $100,000 home, etc. When did this happen? It's in the health care bill, -- and it goes into effect in 2013. Why 2013? Could it be so that it doesn’t come to light until after the 2012 elections? So, this is ‘change you can believe in’?
Under the new health care bill all real estate transactions will be subject to a 3.8% sales tax.
If you sell a $400,000 home, there will be a $15,200 tax. This bill is set to screw the retiring generation, -- who often downsize their homes. Does this make your November, 2012 vote more important?
Oh, you weren't aware that this was in the ObamaCare bill? Guess what; you aren't alone! There are more than a few members of Congress that weren't aware of it either.
You can check this out for yourself at:
http://www.gop.gov/blog/10/04/08/obamacare-flatlines-obamacare-taxes-home
I hope you forward this to every single person in your address book.
VOTERS NEED TO KNOW.

Subject Home Sales Tax-effective Jan. 1, 2013

 

 

 

(EDITED  7-20-12 to correct typographical errors)

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Anyway you slice it, this is a tax to pay for the monstrosity of Obama Care.  If you want to see how Obama Care will work for seniors, observe the British Health Care system as an example of longs waits for needed care, or none at all because you don't have the life expectancy to merit it.

Jul 17, 2012 03:56 AM
Gabrielle Nemes
RE/MAX Realty South - Tumwater, WA
206.300.8421, S King & Pierce County RE Advocate

But "Obama Care" as you phrase it is not the subject of this circulating email message. The 3.8% Medicare/Investment tax is not a tax on ALL real estate transactions -- only for those that fit the narrow guidelines within the code itself

I do understand that others may feel the same way you do, but frankly, we still have one of the lowest tax rates in the world. I have absolutely NO problem asking the wealthy to pay their fair share, considering that most of them pay a far smaller percentage in taxes than I do.

As someone who pays well over $20k a year for health care, amounting to 20% of my "gross" income, I believe that Obama Care is on the right track. Something has to be done ... and going about this in the same old same old way just isn't gonna cut it.

I respect your opinion; I just don't share it.

Jul 17, 2012 04:24 AM
Dale Bledsoe
Crown Key Realty - Tracy, CA
Realtor in Tracy, California

It is good to read a post that has truth behind the words. I have had several client calls regarding this rumor and have tried to explain it in simple terms. Your post does a better job than I have. I may start memorizing it today so I can repeat it without flaw. Thanks for a good Friday morning post. 

Jul 20, 2012 12:38 AM
Gabrielle Nemes
RE/MAX Realty South - Tumwater, WA
206.300.8421, S King & Pierce County RE Advocate

Thanks, Dale. I think the Snopes article explains it really well too. Snopes is my "go to" whenever rumors start flying around.

Jul 20, 2012 02:29 AM