Tottenville Waterfront Commons ..... Bull Dozers Comming Soon

By
Real Estate Agent with Remax Metro Staten Island, New York

Last night I attended the Special Meeting of the Tottenville Civic Association at St Marks Church.  I could guess about 75 people were there along with two uniformed police officers,  the project manager Joseph Margolis, and the Engineering Consultants, the Realtor selling the project.  To their credit they brought the waterfront project and made an excellent presentation of the Outlet Mall.

The project will be built on 30 acres of property including underwater;  4.8 Acres wetlands and Ponds. A 14 screen multiplex, 16 restaurants and 15-16 outlet stores.  A total of 400,000 sq ft of retail space, 1189 parking spaces underground and 1700 above ground. The mall will be shaped like a horse shoe with the center area as large as 2 football fields. The football field area will host local community outdoor activities. The area will be pedestrian friendly with seating areas, walking paths over looking the water and a boat dock to pull up to the mall.  They presenter ofered a plan to Widen Arthur Kill Road.  Sounds Very Very nice! Construction jobs, Jobs boosting the local economy, I love the idea!!!

But wait, hold everything!  As a Staten Island Loving Resident we need to take a closer look at this.  Some key words: Global Warming, Traffic, Infrastructure, Roadways, The Outerbridge Crossing. 

I mention Global Warming because every little bit counts. 25 Acres of trees will be bull dozed  and cleared off the property. I am sure this will effect the Natural Eco System, the natural drainage, small creatures that live in the woods and more.  I suggested at the meeting; Build the center Taller and Buffer the shore lines with native vegetation.

Traffic was the Main concern by everyone that attended the meeting. The presenters told us Arthur Kill Rd would be widened.  But no certain size was given. The President of the Tottenville Civic Association gave a passionate speech on why the mall is a bad idea, not wanted by the community at this location because of the traffic and roads.  Another person mentioned; the Outerbridge was built for the horse and buggy days and already cannot handle the traffic as it is now. How in the world would another 3000 cars fit in?

 Infrastructure   (the system of public works of a country, state, or region; required for an activity) Tottenville just does not have it. The Outerbridge is only four lanes, The roadways are only two lanes.  The access on and off are just not substantial enough.  We're putting the cart before the horse here on the island.  The Outerbridge Crossing needs to be expanded or rebuilt. And a highway access to the property.  But, I am sure the center will be built and life will go on.

Feel Free to Leave your comment........
 

Comments (13)

Valerie Bartolone
DITOMMASO REAL ESTATE - Staten Island, NY
Top Producer in Sales!
It was going to happen sooner or later. Staten Island seems to be land of opportunity to all these new businesses. I hope there is going to be enough business for all these new stores and restaurants.  The economy is not strong for people to go out and shop like they use to.
Feb 12, 2008 11:34 AM
Anonymous
Richmond Ranger

The way staten island is going this is just par for the course.When arts and such should be more in the forefront or other civic minded things. We need more places to shop like we need more over development. S.I is in

process of pricing out the middle class, more and more S.I'ers are moving to New jersey.

 

We don't really need this. 

 

Feb 25, 2008 02:44 AM
#2
Anonymous
COl

MAybe it should be smaller in scope with reasonably priced stores and incorporate theblue/green belts..

it can be a compromise for all ...

 

Col

 

Apr 01, 2008 05:01 AM
#3
Concetta Pepenella-Timmons
Remax Metro Staten Island, New York - Staten Island, NY
Associate Broker

I thought smaller or taller would be ideal with a green buffer on all shore line areas. Right now the greenery planned is sparce and the movie theatre is taking up every bit of the south west corner. Why is this necessary?  

But, The access roads are also primary concern.  Two lanes and 4000 cars is whats planned now and totally stupid and irresponsible on the part of the developers and approval agencies.

The more Natural the better.

Apr 01, 2008 05:39 AM
Anonymous
steve

More green yes, a beach that actually can be used maybe even like a beach club but free yeah! As far

as the store maybe some we can actually use like a trader joes, or nicer supermarket like fairway ....

Great idea if its done right...will need alot of security though. 

May 08, 2008 02:37 AM
#6
Anonymous
Main St

Leave the little bit of country that is left alone! We don't need another strip mall..  We need the trees more than the strip mall

May 12, 2008 02:36 PM
#7
Mitchell J Hall
Manhattan, NY
Lic Associate RE Broker - Manhattan & Brooklyn

Good job reporting Connie. Keep us posted. I'm suprised the city would allow developers to build a mall on wetlands and ponds and cut down 25 acres of trees. Bloomberg is supposed to be the green Mayor.

May 12, 2008 04:57 PM
Anonymous
"Big Al"

I think it will destroy the bucolic nature of Tottenville, and turn it into another Forest Ave. if we don't watch out

Jun 30, 2008 12:25 PM
#9
Anonymous
Eddie

My personal opinion is that staten iskland is already packed with people and places. there is too much over development of housing and shops and businesses. I mean i get the whole lets have more jobs and help the economy, but in all realization on top of having really no room for the site, we are also in the process of killing ourselves by demolishing more of nature.. this is a very old island and is being turned into something tht it wasnt supposed to be. The site is a bad idea and i agree with what is said above... the traffic will be rediculous and the bridge woint be able to handle it. Also,m the residents of this island wont really be to complying with the idea.. we have a mall. Dont need another one!!!!!!

Apr 22, 2009 07:02 AM
#10
Anonymous
Michael Bisogna

They are going to be added a new Regal Cinemas here.  

REGAL WATERFRONT COMMONS STADIUM 14 COMING SOON IN 2012.

This makes 3 Regal Entertainment Group Theaters in Staten Island alone, Their would be 4 but one closed down in the Travis section.

May 11, 2010 11:34 AM
#11
Concetta Pepenella-Timmons
Remax Metro Staten Island, New York - Staten Island, NY
Associate Broker

Michael,  Is there a new sign up on the property stating the theatre is going to be built?

May 12, 2010 05:51 AM
Anonymous
Michael Bisogna

If you go to REGMOVIES.COM and click on the Grand Opening Tab scroll down to where it says Waterfront Commons, Staten Island.  Coming Soon in 2012.

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REGAL EMPLOYEE

May 15, 2010 03:54 PM
#13
Anonymous
Mike B.

 

If you go to REGMOVIES.COM and click on the Grand Opening Tab scroll down to where it says Waterfront Commons, Staten Island.  Coming Soon in 2012.

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REGAL EMPLOYEE

May 15, 2010 03:56 PM
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