Online Reputation Management: An ActiveRain Case Study

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teamworkYesterday, I wrote that linking to your site and keyword stuffing fall short in Google, when comparing those SEO...um..."techniques" to simply being a good internet citizen. (Netizen)

My article pointed out that the most important thing for SEO is to be an honest person, write honest content, and let Google know exactly who you are, using your Google+ profile.

Well, today, I can actually prove what I wrote yesterday is true and valid.

(So if you were one of the 600 people that read the post, but did not comment because you thought it was ridiculous, here is your second chance!)

The name of the post was "Sometimes the Best SEO is No SEO." And you can find it here. (Quick sidebar: for those of you wondering why I don't use anchor text in my links...more on that later.)

The point of yesterday's article was that one of the reasons I have so much success with SEO, is because Google trusts me. I've been around ActiveRain for a long time and my ActiveRain account is attached to my Google+ account.

I also write in other places, answer questions for people on Answers.com, write Google restaurant reviews, I "plus" and "share" things that I think are useful, and do many more things to scratch the back of Google. If I am searching for something, and the best article is result #6, I plus that article and let Google know it's in the wrong position. Google knows all of this and thanks me for "the help" with good rankings for sites I am tied into.

But you have to see this:

Click this link to see my attempt at finding my post in Google this morning. (The link will open in a new window.)

Is my post number one in Google?

Nope. Not sure where it's at. Maybe page 50.

But, somebody that Google trusts even more-- somebody who has written more content in the Rain than I have-- reblogged my post.

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Debbie Gartner is also in over 900 Google circles. Me? So far, I am only in about 100, I think. 

So who wins? The guy that wrote the original content, or Debbie?

She now is number one in Google for the article that I wrote.

Am I upset? Heck no. It totally proves my point.

Debbie didn't do anything wrong. It's not her fault that Google trusts her more than Google trusts me. You know who's fault that is? 

Mine.

Now, it's time to get into more Google circles! Right now, I will set a goal of 916. (wink, wink Debbie)

You know how people sometimes say, "this isn't a popularity contest?" Well, with the new search engine rules, that's exactly what this is: a popularity contest.

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Comments (21)

David Grbich
Realty One Group - www.FindCARealEstate.com - San Juan Capistrano, CA
Orange County Real Estate - 949-500-0484

Michael - great advice - it's very easy to overoptimize posts/web pages and important to play by Google's rules. That reblog helps you as it is spreading your content and backlinks across the web. Thanks, Dave

Aug 08, 2012 01:36 AM
Lucas Taylor
Keller Williams Miami Beach - Miami Beach, FL
Thank you for the great education.  I learned so much from your post.
Aug 08, 2012 01:45 AM
John McCormack, CRS
Albuquerque Homes Realty - Albuquerque, NM
Honesty, Integrity, Results, Experienced. HIRE Me!

Thanks for the tips and kick in the pants to get it right.  SUGGESTED.

Aug 08, 2012 02:13 AM
SEO Expert: Michael George
Phoenix, AZ
Real Estate and Law Firm SEO

Thanks for the comments folks and thanks a lot for the suggestion John. I appreciate that so much.

Aug 08, 2012 02:22 AM
Iris Stuart
none - Santa Rosa, CA

Michael, thank you for the education!  I'm learning so much about SEO here in the Rain!  Google has so much leverage in the online world that understanding how to have Google juice is a must.

Aug 08, 2012 03:38 AM
Bill Gassett
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Hopkinton, MA
Metrowest Massachusetts Real Estate

Michael I want to say first that I respect your knowledge on SEO but I am going to respectfully disagree with you on this one. When I google the term you come up #1. Often times what can happen with posts coming from Active Rain if the rebloggers post gets indexed first. Google typically fixes that within a day and the original author gets credit and the position changes. If you are signed into google or have not cleared your cache you are also going to get different results based on the sites you have visited as well.

Aug 08, 2012 03:42 AM
SEO Expert: Michael George
Phoenix, AZ
Real Estate and Law Firm SEO

Bill-- you know I love you man, but I must also respectfully disagree. :-)

I am pretty sure Debbie is number one and here's how I check:

Using my iPad, I clear all cookies. Then I activate "private browsing" on my iPad, I turn off WiFi, and connect through 3g. Finally, I login using a VPS (virtual private server) App from the app store.

Attached is a screenshot from my iPad.

(10:44am, two minutes after you posted.) The browser window is black in Safari, because I am being "anonymous."

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Aug 08, 2012 03:50 AM
SEO Expert: Michael George
Phoenix, AZ
Real Estate and Law Firm SEO

But maybe in a couple of days Bill?

I still believe this has to do with Debbie's circles and her 20,000,000 AR points... :-)

Even if I'm wrong, and my post goes to the top tomorrow or later today- it still shows something. Debbie was indexed first, or given first preference, or something. I can't wait to see what tomorrow brings.

And just to be clear: This does not upset me at all. To me, almost everything I do is an experiment (since Google is always evolving) and I'm just silly enough to conduct my experiments in public.

Aug 08, 2012 03:51 AM
Bill Gassett
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Hopkinton, MA
Metrowest Massachusetts Real Estate

Ok I just did it again by also going "private" You are correct she is #1 however you are #2. If you look at the result you will see that her page was cache 2 hours prior to you. I would be willing to bet at some point you move to #1:) It would be silly to think that Google would not want to put the author in the 1st position.

Aug 08, 2012 05:04 AM
Tammy Emineth
Personal SEO - Website SEO and Real Estate Marketing - Marysville, WA
Content Marketer, SEO Teacher, Website Fixer

Well get on the ball there Michael! I just added you so we can help each other out. Yes, I have seen reblogs higher because of that very reason! Interesting!

Aug 08, 2012 07:45 AM
Janis Borgueta
Key Properties of the Hudson Valley - Newburgh, NY
LIC RE Salesperson

I definitely need to add more people to my circles.. I have not been doing that as much as I should and reblogging more often too.

Aug 08, 2012 12:44 PM
Bill Gassett
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Hopkinton, MA
Metrowest Massachusetts Real Estate

Hey Michael check again now - I see you in the #1 position going private on a proxy server. If you look at the cache you will see Google has come back and visited since the original posting. The re-blog is now in the #2 position. This is how it should work regardless of how many more people Debbie has in her circles.

I know you didn't care if she came before you on this particular post but just imagine for a second if you were a realtor and wrote an incredible post about short sales. Would you want someone else to be able to copy your article and come before you in the search results because they had more followers on Google, Twitter or some other social platform?

I think you can understand this would create havoc on the SERPS and would not be what Google intended. You would have a lot of pissed off people if they were the author and someone else showed up first for their article. This would not only increase plagarism by an excessive amount but everyone and their brother would be "gaming" getting Google friends.

Is it possible that it could be a small factor in Googles algorithm - I am quite sure it is but there are over 200 factors in SEO for serp placement. If someone had a 100,000 more friends than me on Google plus it shouldn't EVER put them above me in a post I WROTE.

Aug 08, 2012 10:07 PM
Jeanne M. Gavish
Jeanne Gavish, Keller Williams Realty Elite Partners - Spring Hill, FL
Keller Williams Realty Elite Partners - CIPS,GRI,S

A little overwhelmed here. I don't even know how to attach my active rain account with my google plus account, but until a couple months ago I had  twenty something assistant who did it all...whew! Where to start?

Aug 08, 2012 10:44 PM
Michael J. Gallo
Florida Luxury Realty - New Port Richey, FL
Florida Luxury Realty - Gulf Home Sales Team

Michael, Awesome Stuff right here.  I G+'d it, LinkedIn'd it and FaceBook'd it.  I am expecting my "geeks" will want to discuss this at length.  Thank You for Sharing the Info and your Insight and giving us some coffee chatter today.

Aug 09, 2012 12:10 AM
Charlie Dresen
Steamboat Sotheby's International Realty - Steamboat Springs, CO
Steamboat Springs, CO e-Pro

Circle around Rainers - here's my circle.  

Aug 09, 2012 02:42 AM
Jimmy Williams (352) 874-2354
Keller Williams Elite Partners IV - Mount Dora, FL
Lake and Western Orange County Real Estate Expert!
Michael, Looks like Google is looking for good content from writers not trying to game the Google system.
Aug 09, 2012 10:44 PM
Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

OMG, this is hilarious!!!  I'm so sorry...I think.  I love your stuff, so I reblog it.  For what it's worth, when I do the search, you actually come up first on my list, not me...so this may be user specific.

I'm not using G+ nearly as much as I should, but thanks to you, I'm trying to make it more of my routine.  So, now I'm trying to G+ one of my AR articles per day as an update (I've alway +'d my WP articles but there are fewer of them).

And, thx for the answers.com tip.  I started doing that this week.  I answered a few, and then a couple of days later a few more and today 2 more.  My trust ranking went from 0 to 2 already.  I'm going to try to do this once per week (every weekend when I'm doing WP commenting w/ back links - I try to do 6 per weekend - 2 for each of my 3 sites).  Oh, and you know what else is great abt thsi??? It's giving me ideas for future blog topics.  I can see the flooring questions and I think it's ranking them based on popularity of the questions.  So lots of blog fodder now.

Aug 10, 2012 11:40 PM
Debbie Gartner
The Flooring Girl - White Plains, NY
The Flooring Girl & Blog Stylist -Dynamo Marketers

I'm now just reading all the comments. I've also experienced this where an agent reblogged my post and they came up higher on search than I did.  Anecdotally, this seemed to happen more when I first started and the agent came up higher if they were using AR more (and prob. their page rank was higher, if I recall correctly).  But, it's still good as I came up on the searches and they gave me a link back to my AR blog, which in turn helped my overall page rank.  I think it happens less often now as my AR blog has PR3 (but my profile still only has PR2).

Also, I noticed on AR that one of "my" more popular flooring blogs, was a reblog of a fellow Floor Coverings International franchisee.  I retitled it...and titled it better and I got way more hits on it - some of the hits are for the topic and others for the geography.  He stopped using AR, so that may be another reason.  A year later, he gave me his password so I could make some quick edits on his acct.  I was expecting him to have a huge # of hits on the original blog post, but he didn't....they all seemed to be going to me.  I was stunned.  I then tried to do a similar but improved post on the same topic, but it didn't seem to garner the same hits as I think the hits are going to that original reblog.

Bizarre.  But, I guess it does show the importance of trust and the synergistic effect you can have by writing a lot and in multiple places.

Aug 10, 2012 11:58 PM
Kathy Della-Nebbia
Royal LePage State Realty, Brokerage - Hamilton, ON
SRES

Okay, just learned something and got more confused at the same time.  I set up a Google + account a couple of days ago and I'm trying to figure it out. I created a page too but now I'm not sure how to use them.  You've just convinced me of how important that account is.  Now I must spend some time getting educated on it. 

Thank you,  I've said it before but its worth repeating,  I can't believe HOW MUCH I LEARN on AR.

Kathy

Aug 15, 2012 09:46 PM
Bill Gassett
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Hopkinton, MA
Metrowest Massachusetts Real Estate

Hi Michael - just to see if my theory on this was correct I am back to let you know that your article is in the #1 position and you will not find the re-blog anywhere on the first page. This is how it should be and if it worked any other way the web would have real problems:)

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