Shadow Inventory How Big is It?

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Real Estate Agent with Realty Associates

We live in a world of contradictions. 

Over and over again we see complaints of not enough inventory. 

 

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Gary Schilling questions that premise and suggest that prices may actually drop due to the market being flooded with inventory. 

 

Here is the quote attributed to Mr. Schilling.

"It would take a 22% house price drop to return to the long-run trend going back to 1890," he writes in his research note. "Since corrections of bubbles often overshoot on the downside, our forecast of a further 20% decline may be conservative."

So, is there too much inventory, not enough inventory, or a big problem lurking in the shadows?

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Kathy Stoltman
Balboa Real Estate - Ventura, CA
Ventura County Real Estate Consultant 805-746-1793

I do not believe, over al,l that we are going to be hit with a huge dump of shadow inventory homes, certainly not before elections.  Yes, I agree there is shadow inventory, but I believe there will be a great effort to drip this inventory into the system vs flooding the market with distressed properties that push the prices down and have negative ripple effects for the economy.

Aug 10, 2012 02:38 AM #1
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Rose King
David Tracy Real Estate - Friendswood, TX
Friendswood / Pearland / Houston Bay Area

Hello Erv! I certainly hope we don't see a 22% drop in housing prices. Some areas are being hit harder than others, but here in the Houston area, things never got out of hand. We saw a slight dip in the last couple of years, but this year everything is on an upward swing. Lots of sales, prices are going up, inventory is about right!

Aug 10, 2012 01:59 PM #2
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Ellen Caruso
Daniel Gale Sotheby's International Realty - Glen Head, NY

Erv, I guess it l depends on what your loking for.....Right now in our market eveyone wants new or near new construction....for that there is not enough and demand and prices are getting higher.

Aug 11, 2012 02:33 PM #3
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Joe Petrowsky
Mortgage Consultant, Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS # 2709 - Manchester, CT
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These predictions will not stop and most of them don't make a lot of sense, but someone is buying, otherwise they couldn't keep selling the information.

All markets will always be efficent. All markets eventually cure themselves, over time.

Aug 11, 2012 11:03 PM #4
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Nick T Pappas
Assoc. Broker/Broker ABR, CRS, SFR, e-Pro, @Homes Realty Group, @HomesBirmingham & Providence Property Mgmnt, LLC Hun... - Huntsville, AL
Madison & Huntsville Alabama Real Estate Resource

Erv, I've got to agree with Joe#4, As we know markets are driven locally and I think that most of the negative news that we hear about are in areas that were hardest hit, but after talking to many agents in those areas, it doesn't seem to be necessarily true that they are headed for another dip...homes are selling with multiple offers and many times above list.  In my area there are a lot of homes on the market, but I would not call it a glut...I would say that homes still on the market suffer condition issues and poor pricing from the get go.  I'm the busiest I've ever been, but then every market is local.

Aug 12, 2012 06:47 AM #5
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Yolanda Cordova-Gilbert
Richmond, TX

Erv, I also agree with Joe & Nick. There is not enough inventory here. People are beginning to realize the deals were last year and the now have little to no room for dealing it is what it is here in Cinco Ranch!

Aug 12, 2012 07:56 AM #6
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

Good question Erv, but I disagree about a 20% drop in prices.  Inventory has been shrinking and the lenders show no sign of dumping inventory.

Aug 12, 2012 08:50 PM #7
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Charles Stallions Property Manager
Charles Stallions Real Estate Services - Pace, FL
Pensacola, Pace & Gulf Breeze Property Management

IMHO, Real Estate is local as well as life and they are both what you make it. I have found since the early 80's that Chicken Little is a myth but there will be a sky falling somewhere everyday it just doesn't happen to be where any one truly sees it.

No I don't believe that if you break your arm that positive thinking will heal it without getting a cast but I do believe that everything starts between your ears and what is happening there becomes reality. I interview agents from time to time within days of each other and it never surprises me that their opinion will differ as to what the market is depending on what they perceive reality to be.

I do the absolute best I can do everyday and everyday is what I make it.

Aug 17, 2012 09:55 PM #8
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Joshua Zargari
MJ Decorators Workshop LI staging and home decorating - Lynbrook, NY
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Good evening.

Aug 18, 2012 10:59 AM #9
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David Burrows
Classic Realty - Fairfax, VA
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There certainly is NOT enough inventory in our neck of the woods. I agree with Joe that all markets eventually cure themselves. Interesting post - Thanks.

 

Aug 19, 2012 04:29 AM #10
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Curtis Van Carter
Better Homes & Gardens Wine Country Group - Yountville, CA
Your Napa Valley Broker Extraordinaire

Erv

I think there is a large supply of shadow inventory but the banks will continue to release it slowly and try to find other solutions to their inventory, distressed sales situation. This is why I feel it will be the end of next year till we truly see the light at the end of this real estate tunnel. cheers cvc

Aug 20, 2012 01:17 AM #11
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Roy Kelley
Realty Group Referrals - Gaithersburg, MD

Have an outstanding week with your camera in hand.

Aug 21, 2012 07:49 AM #12
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Roy Kelley
Realty Group Referrals - Gaithersburg, MD

Enjoy the days of summer with your camera in hand.

 

Aug 23, 2012 07:17 AM #13
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Amanda Christiansen
Christiansen Group Realty (260)704-0843 - Fort Wayne, IN
Christiansen Group Realty

I'm not sure what the right answer is here.  We still have inventory here in Fort Wayne, but it is really starting to balance out.  Good luck to you!  

Aug 24, 2012 11:12 PM #14
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Charles Stallions
Charles Stallions Real Estate Services - Pensacola, FL
800-309-3414 - Pensacola, Pace or Gulf Breeze, Fl.

I think it will be a slow process but the shadow inventory will slowly drip back in. The last thing this administration needs is for the housing market to crash and that is why they are holding all this inventory back. The same with the oncoming depression it can only be held back for so long.

Aug 25, 2012 01:20 PM #15
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Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

Erv, we are seeing a slight increase in pricing, and saw a stat that we were in the top 5 cities for increasing prices - yeah Denver!

Aug 25, 2012 11:42 PM #16
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Barbara-Jo Roberts Berberi, MA, PSA, TRC - Greater Clearwater Florida Residential Real Estate Professional
Charles Rutenberg Realty - Clearwater, FL
Palm Harbor, Dunedin, Clearwater, Safety Harbor

I have to agree with Gabe. I do not think prices are going to drop, we are seeing increases here. The inventory is just so low that it is no longer a buyer's market and I don't see that changing.

Aug 31, 2012 12:09 AM #17
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In the area that I work in, we do not have enough waterfront inventory. The rest is okay. Not great, but okay.
Sep 02, 2012 12:51 AM #18
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