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You Can ONLY See This Kind Of Thing PRE-DRYWALL - 3 of 3

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Home Inspector with Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC 3380-000723

This is the last of a small series of three posts called you can ONLY see this kind of thing PRE-DRYWALL.

Pre-drywall inspections are essential to the building process and this is being realized by more and more buyers.

One of the reasons these folks bought this house was the master bedroom design.

It takes up almost 1/2 of the upper level!

The sleeping area is large, with an attached, and large, sitting area.  The sitting area is down two steps from the sleeping area.

Separating these two rooms is a gas fireplace.

It can be seen from both sides.  They loved the fireplace.  They always wanted a fireplace in the bedroom.

Looking more closely at the vent I noticed that the connection between the fireplace and chimney inside the attic was carefully sealed.  A silicone caulking formulated for heat, with the ability to expand and contract, was used to seal this connection.

SUCH A SEALANT IS REQUIRED BY THE LOCAL FIRE CODE.

Fire is not the only reason for this.  Carbon monoxide and fireplace safety is the other reason.

Looking around the back side of the vent it appeared that the caulking got very erratic.

Not seeing it well I stuck my camera in there to snap a photo.

On the fireplace itself, just before the vent tubing coming out of the box, is an instruction sticker.  It teaches how much distance is required between the vent and any combustible materials. 

IT ALSO SAYS THAT ALL CONNECTIONS TO AND FROM THE FIREPLACE NEED TO BE SEALED COMPLETELY.

My camera revealed that the tubing is NOT entirely sealed.

Now, this much of a gap, about 1/5" on the back side of the tubing, may or may not represent a serious issue.  I think it does as the instructions are specific.

BUT WHAT BOTHERS ME ABOUT THIS IS THAT THE INSTALLER KNOWS HE DID NOT SEAL THE TUBING COMPLETELY.  DOES THE SUPERVISOR?  IF NOT, WHY NOT?  IS HE NOT CHECKING FOR SAFETY, ESPECIALLY SOMETHING AS IMPORTANT AS A SAFETY THING REGARDING FIRE OR CARBON MONOXIDE?

If I can find it, anyone else can find it.

If I can see it, anyone else can see it.

My recommendation:  when the builder's representative says you do not need a pre-drywall inspection because their supervisor is there every day, they hire professionals to do the work, the County is by multiple times to look at the house, or whatever they say - IT IS VERY, VERY CIRCUMSPECT TO HIRE YOUR OWN HOME INSPECTOR.  You never know what he might find.  And, to quote the cliche, you don't know what you don't know.

 This is the third in a series of one, two and three posts regarding the same house.

 

Posted by

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comments (13)

Scott Seaton Jr. SLS Home Insp
SLS Home Inspections-Kankakee Will Iroquois Grundy Counties - Bourbonnais, IL
The Home Inspector With a Heart!

I love taking behind the item pictures. The seller's or installer's eyes must pop out of their head when they see that their goofy repair or install has been discovered.  

Aug 17, 2012 10:27 PM
Lisa Von Domek
Lisa Von Domek Team - Dallas, TX
....Experience Isn't Expensive.... It's Priceless!

Good morning Jay,

A great series, more proof positive why buyers need regular inspections on new construction!

Aug 17, 2012 11:07 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

I like to call the camera a periscope, It can go into those otherwise unreachable areas and see what was not intended to be seen. 

Aug 17, 2012 11:20 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Btw a package arrived yesterday from an unknown sender. I believe this person must read a lot and would like to share. ;) Thanks.

 

Aug 17, 2012 11:22 PM
Kathryn Maguire
GreatNorfolkHomes.com (757) 560-0881 - Chesapeake, VA
Serving Chesapeake, Norfolk, VA Beach

This series was all the proof anyone would need that pre-drywall inspections are imperative when buying new construction!

Aug 18, 2012 12:01 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Jay, people are probably wondering what difference such a small gap could make.  In modern construction it makes a lot of difference because any openings there are are points where air will be sucked into the home when the home is under negative pressure either by exhaust equipment or stack effect.  The key is that we are controlling where the air is allowed to enter---otherwise it could be from locations such as this that might contain noxious fumes etc.

Aug 18, 2012 03:33 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Scott - the camera can be a fun thing!  It goes where I can't!

Lisa - this house had a lot of things, and in different places.  There were mistakes by so many trades!

Jim - this was a hard spot to get to with the camera.  It would have been easier with a hand and some caulking on a finger.  It took three tries to get the shot!

Jim - I happen to know that is one great guy who loves to reach out and touch people.  Apparently he couldn't decide which book to send.  Once he read where The Shadow loved chocolate surprises and some chocolate miraculously showed up at The Shadow's door!

Kathryn - someone asked me to write a series and this house provided all the fodder needed!

Shadow - it's the little things that make a big difference.  This manufacturer had some really specific information it wanted followed, obviously for good reasons.  Who knows what kind of problem this crack can or could cause, but why have any gap when none is supposed to exist?

Aug 18, 2012 06:54 AM
Charles Stallions
Charles Stallions Real Estate Services - Pensacola, FL
850-476-4494 - Pensacola, Pace or Gulf Breeze, Fl.

I always recommend a home inspection even for new homes. Thanks for sharing an informative post, good luck and happy selling Jay

Aug 18, 2012 01:09 PM
Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366
Dry Rot and Water Damage www.tromlerconstruction.com Mobile - 916-765-5366 - Placerville, CA
General Contractor, Dry Rot and Water Damage

Thanks Jay

Just one more reason for a pre-drywall inspection.

Aug 18, 2012 05:07 PM
James Dray
Fathom Realty - Bentonville, AR

Morning Jay I wonder if on the Inspection/Repair Addendum this will be noted and asked to be fixed before the sale can proceed? 

Aug 18, 2012 07:45 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

I don't do much selling Charles - I show up just after the sale!

One of a fillion, maybe a gillion Tom.

James - that is the idea, that my list be added to anything the supervisor might give to the buyer when they do their walk through.

Aug 18, 2012 08:52 PM
Steven Cook
No Longer Processing Mortgages. - Tacoma, WA

Jay - great series - with very informative explanations of the problems found.  I don't think I want that company building a house for me.

Aug 20, 2012 09:39 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Thanks Steven.  These kinds of things are rampant on many new homes!

Aug 20, 2012 10:18 AM