What's Missing?

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Home Inspector with Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC 3380-000723

People sometimes try to do good things, but not having proper information (or googling the wrong web site) they end up with a final result that is incorrect.  As you look at this photo, what's missing?

This is a whole-house filter.

The house is on public water, but they have one anyway.

This filter is desperately clogged!

It looks to have not been replaced since installation.

Why?

Either they don't know to replace it, or it's too difficult.

So, what's missing?

Here, compare their installation to the filter instllation in my house, on the right.

Obviously the difference isn't the color of the filter!

You can see the important difference a little to the right of the filter.  See it?

Before and after my filter I have a valve!

To remove the filter, I only have to turn off each valve and that turns off the pressure, and allows me to remove the filter cover and change the filter!

No valve, no remove.  It's pretty simple.

The installation of the blue filter above does not have a valve on either side. 

Number one, there would be too much pressure in the line to remove the filter cover.
Number two, the water in the entire plumbing system would have to be drained, AFTER the water main is turned off. 

My house utilizes the best practice - the other house does not.

My recommendation:  older homes usually have many homeowner installations.  Not every homeowner knows how to do things, and not every homeowner wants to pay a professional to have things done!  Your solution to this would be calling a home inspector before you buy that "newly remodeled" property!  You never know what you will find out!

 

 

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Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


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Rainmaker
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Bill Gillhespy
16 Sunview Blvd - Fort Myers Beach, FL
Fort Myers Beach Realtor, Fort Myers Beach Agent - Homes & Condos

Morning Jay,  The added cost of two shut-off valves seems like a deal considering the alternatives.

Oct 03, 2012 12:25 AM #23
Rainer
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Robert Butler
Aspect Inspection - Montreal West Island, QC
Montreal Home Inspector | Aspect Inspection

Good example Jay. We don't have those filters in common use here (good water - lucky) but the same valving is required at sinks, hot water tanks, pressure tanks etc..

Oct 03, 2012 01:11 AM #24
Rainmaker
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Doug Dawes
Keller Williams Realty - Topsfield, MA - Georgetown, MA
Your Personal Realtor®

Beleive it or not that's the first thing that came to mind. Many times people install whole house filters even when they have municipal water. The reason forthat is becouse they want to filter out the chlorine taste or such. I know a town where they have high manganese concentration which affects their laundry negatively and can stain their sinks/toilets/tubs etc

Oct 03, 2012 01:14 AM #25
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Nan Jester
Exit Real Estate Gallery Jacksonville Beach, FL - Jacksonville Beach, FL
Realtor, Exit Real Estate Gallery

Just had one done recently on a very old home that was totally remodeled. These are the MOST important home inspections ever. Fortunately, my inspector found nothing very important.

Oct 03, 2012 01:37 AM #26
Rainmaker
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Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

I have a filter similar to this on my refrigerator and it needs to be changed accordingly...yes to this post and thank you

Oct 03, 2012 03:41 AM #27
Rainer
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Kathryn Maguire
GreatNorfolkHomes.com (757) 560-0881 - Chesapeake, VA
Serving Chesapeake, Norfolk, VA Beach

I am not surprised at all that the installation of the filter in your own home represents best practice!

Oct 03, 2012 04:53 AM #28
Rainmaker
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Ginger Harper
Coldwell Banker Sea Coast Advantage - Southport, NC
Your Southport~Oak Island Agent~Brunswick County!

You know, if you have a system like this for your home...you should let it work properly...especially if the only thing it needs is a new filter...

Oct 03, 2012 06:36 AM #29
Rainer
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Steven Cook
No Longer Processing Mortgages. - Tacoma, WA

Jay -- I find it interesting that it appears that the filter is jammed in between a stud and a pipe running up next to the opposite stud.  With my big hands, even with the shut off valves, this would be a difficult one to change.

Oct 03, 2012 06:36 AM #30
Rainmaker
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Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

There you go Ashley!  I bet you see a lot of homeowner stuff which causes you to gag!

Bill - they make everything easier!

Robert - my County is very proud of its water, but that filter in the photo is only 4 weeks old!  I also have another triple filter under the kitchen sink and one in the fridge!

Doug - yes, we have one under the kitchen sink, for drinking and cooking.  And the fridge!

 

Oct 03, 2012 07:51 AM #31
Rainmaker
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Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Nan - I recommend them on every home with a well, and I have one in my public system just because.

Richie - when the light comes on telling you to change the filter, push it to reset and then wait until the second light comes on.  The first time it is unnecessary.

Kathryn - it is just smart.  Smart is always best practice!

Ginger - agreed!  I replace the filter when it looks goopy.

Steven - you are right, it is very close.  The installation overall is not a good one.

Oct 03, 2012 07:54 AM #32
Rainmaker
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Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

Jay:  While your filter may work much better than the other one... the blue one is so much prettier.  I mean, a girl has to have her priorities straight, don't you agree?

Oct 03, 2012 10:19 AM #33
Rainmaker
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Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Jay...you have now caused me to save money on filters...ladies and gentleman...every once in a while as you travel through the different life arenas.... the real deal visits with you and we are better for it....thank you Jay

Oct 03, 2012 11:37 AM #34
Rainmaker
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Joshua Frederick
Home Inspector for ASPEC Residential Services, LLC - Defiance, OH
Home Inspector in Defiance & all of Northwest Ohio

Maybe they have a pipe freezer nearby when it comes time to filter changing:)

Oct 03, 2012 06:16 PM #35
Rainmaker
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Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

You don't like the guys with the white hats Karen Anne?  But I agree as to a girls' priorities!

I change my filter regularly Richie.  And it's easier with valves!

Joshua - that's brilliant!  But freezing it doesn't do anything about the pressure.  Do you think it might damage the plastic to try to fool with it while frozen?

Oct 03, 2012 06:20 PM #36
Rainmaker
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James Dray
Fathom Realty - Bentonville, AR
Exceptional Agents, Outstanding Results

Morning Jay congrats on yet another feature.  I wonder if the people even knew that there was one and if so did they know how or when to remove it.

Oct 03, 2012 06:22 PM #37
Rainmaker
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Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Hard to tell what they knew or didn't know James, but they have lived there a while.

Oct 03, 2012 06:23 PM #38
Rainmaker
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Rob Ernst
Certified Structure Inspector - Reno, NV
Reno, NV-775-410-4286 Inspector & Energy Auditor

I agree with Charlie, shut off on both sides and a bond wire. On mine I ran a pipe up and over. This serves two purposes allowes me to by pass the filer and leave the water on and keeps the bonding in place. 

Oct 04, 2012 02:17 PM #39
Rainmaker
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Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

That's how we did my water softener Rob, with a bypass.  And we have a little bond wire between the come and go pipes.  It's only about 2" long!

Oct 04, 2012 08:15 PM #40
Rainmaker
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Tom Bailey
Margaret Rudd & Associates Inc. - Oak Island, NC

Jay, I love your comment that it WAS put in by a plumber. Yesterday I did not know how to spell plumber, now I "are" one.                                    

Oct 05, 2012 05:22 PM #41
Rainmaker
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Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

There you go Tom!  And maybe tomorrow yet something different!

Oct 05, 2012 05:59 PM #42
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