Contractor Can Repair Your Siding, But You Need to Repair the Gutter.

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A Contractor Can Repair Your Siding,

But You Need to Repair the Gutter.

 

A benefit of working with a licensed general contractor is the experience he can bring to a needed repair. Too often, a lot of time and money is spent fixing a problem that will likely recur in a few years. This may be the first time a homeowner has seen a problem like this, but the contractor may have dealt with it dozens of times. That’s what you get with hiring the right person.

In this photo, we can see that the siding is bad. The water damage has weakened the lap siding and water is intruding into the building. The rotted lap sidingrotted siding does need to be replaced with new materials, but the real problem has to be addressed. In this case the gutter may be the culprit.

Every gutter has at least one downspout. The water from the roof flows into the gutter and flows toward the downspout and out to the ground below. It is not uncommon the have a gutter that is slightly sloped in the wrong direction. While there is a little bit of adjustment at the time of installation, the roof line is not level, there’s not much that can be done to change the slope.

A gutter that slopes away from the downspout will fill with water until the water, which is self-leveling, gets high enough to reach the downspout. This is okay; the water is still flowing where it needs to go - down the downspout.

 

So what’s the problem Tom?

The problem with this gutter in the photo is that when the downspout gets clogged, the water in the gutter continues to fill until it flows over the top. Now since water will always find its own level, the water will overflow at the lowest point in the gutter. The gutter in the photo sloped slightly toward the house and water pours against the building siding. Over time, the water damage began and increased over the years until it got to this point today.

Yes you do have a need for siding repair but if you do not do something about the gutter, it will happen again. If this is something that you are experiencing, maybe a qualified general contractor can help you with this. It doesn’t hurt to ask.

 

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Rainmaker
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Michael Setunsky
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Tom, it pays to hire a contractor who knows what they are doing otherwise this homeowner will be replacing a lot of siding over the years.

Oct 28, 2012 10:48 PM #6
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Good morning Tom -

Unless one is a very handy man / gal they need to hire a professional such as yourself to get the job done correctly and pay less in the long run.  Good information my friend... Make it a great day!

Oct 28, 2012 11:12 PM #7
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Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366
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Couldn't agree more Gita.

 

Thanks Debbie. I hope the homeowner takes your advice rather than the shortcut.

Oct 28, 2012 11:19 PM #8
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Than Maynard
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Kick out flashing is used here some, but not near often enough. Most roofers don't understand it and most homeowners think it looks ugly. (The kick out flashing seems to end up around the entry ways, since this is the most cut up part of the roof line.)

Oct 28, 2012 11:25 PM #9
Rainmaker
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Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366
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The bottom of the gutter is slightly more than 2" wide, standard for the gutters in this area Jay. It is 7" high which looks good across the fascia board.

Kick out flashing is used, this one even has it. There is a seam in the siding right at the flashing. I think the rising water in the gutter, not the water flowing down the roof, was the problem.

I have not seen the K-Guard gutter in use. But maybe those homes don't need a contractor to come out.  :)

Oct 28, 2012 11:31 PM #10
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Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366
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You can't beat experience Roger.

Oct 28, 2012 11:31 PM #11
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I'm with you Robert, let's keep that water flowing.

Oct 28, 2012 11:31 PM #12
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We aren't cheap, let's fix it once Michael.  :)

Oct 28, 2012 11:31 PM #13
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A handyperson could do this, if they knew what to do John.

Enjpy this day!

Oct 28, 2012 11:32 PM #14
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Than - we see it in the newer homes, I don't think it is that ugly.  :)

Oct 28, 2012 11:35 PM #15
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Myrl Jeffcoat
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I just "lived" that problem this past weekend, Tom!  I had a slight flow in the wrong direction, coupled with a downspout clogged with leaves.

Oct 29, 2012 01:05 AM #16
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Peg Barcelo
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Tom, It's so great you can pinpoint the cause so you can solve a problem that many people would not even relate damage to. A gutter levelled in the wrong direction can wreak havoc!

Love those K-guards Jay!

I can't believe how many people have problems with their rain gutters! I see a lot of multi peak roofs that have a gutter end with an open elbow and water just pours onto the roof to be caught at a lower gutter. Water erodes so many things, like rocks, how do people imagine it won't do the same to shingles?

Oct 29, 2012 03:13 AM #17
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Steven Cook
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Tom -- thank you for a very good explanation of a too common gutter problem.

Oct 29, 2012 04:25 AM #18
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Tom: Had a listing (now sold) where the gutters were not installed properly and the water ran down between the home and the gutter - all along all sides of the house. As you can imagine, it resulted in lots of rot, as you can imagine. Heartbreaking.

Oct 29, 2012 08:30 AM #19
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Tom, as with everything, it's good to address the cause of the problem at the same time as fixing the symptoms!
Oct 29, 2012 10:08 AM #20
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Better get it taken care of Myrl!

Oct 29, 2012 11:22 AM #21
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The more elaborate the roof the more difficult it is to maintain the gutters Peg. what ever happened to a simple roof?   :)

Oct 29, 2012 11:22 AM #22
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Now that we know, we can take the appropriate action Steven.

Oct 29, 2012 11:22 AM #23
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I know exactly what you are referring to Hella. Downspouts tend to be on the corner of homes which compounds the problem in repairing it.

Oct 29, 2012 11:24 AM #24
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I agree with you Silvia, but it seems quite a battle sometimes in getting that point emphasized.

Oct 29, 2012 11:24 AM #25
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