Why Windows 8? Will it beat the ipad? Are you wondering where computers are going?

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Good Morning fellow Rainers. 

You have probably noticed that Windows 8 has landed, this happened on Oct 26, and it is a major milestone for Microsoft. 

Perhaps not so much for the obvious reason - a new OS release is a great step forward, but also for the integration of mobile in the PC structure. 

There are two versions of this new OS to talk about right off the bat, Windows RT and Windows 8.

RT is a mobile OS, it is meant to be used with Apps on ARM processors and does not support legacy software (read your favorite old CD thing will not work). It does come with an office suite built in (no outlook). 

Windows 8 is the full on Win OS, this will run legacy programs and will run ion Intel machines. And this is the work horse you will be looking for. 


So - why get this? Well, it is quite simple really - do you have an ipad? Android tablet? Are the "limitations" getting a little frustrating? Wish you could have the tablet form factor with your regular desktop on it? 

Yes, that is it, Samsung just put out the ATIV Smart PC $700... It is a convertible tablet, meaning you can get a full keyboard and make it like a laptop, but you can also use it as is as a tablet, full windows and a s-pen included to get your docs signed... If you live in San Diego or another place where the MLS is flash based, you just gained full desktop access.

I will write a few more overviews of this soon, so keep your eyes open for that. 

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Kathy Streib
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Ted- since I just got an iPad this year, I'll be sticking with it but I do use my good ole laptop for my major work.  

Oct 30, 2012 12:56 AM #1
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Fulton Gaylord
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I have to use my PC for all bank work because they don't support Mac OS, but...

it's on it's last days, crashes regularly...my PC guy says it's a miracle it's still running, so I don't think it'd be wise to "Up-grade" to 8.

Plus, media is definitely cool on 8

Oct 30, 2012 01:01 AM #2
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Kathy, i completely understand - i have an iPad that my wife uses (i find it less than useful for real estate).

Oct 30, 2012 01:04 AM #3
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Fulton, I think you will like what you get in the win 8, and the convergence of desktop and mobile on these tablets and touch screen ultra books its something that will start making sense fast. Once you sign a contract like i did on d Saturday, ASL on a screen and without the need to run to the office... You'll be hooked.

Oct 30, 2012 01:07 AM #4
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Thanks for this information Terkel. I work on a PC running Windows 7 and I also have an Apple laptop and iPad.  My concern in upgrading immediately to Windows 8 is it will create problems with other sites, like my MLS that need time to upgrade to Windows 8, eventually I will upgrade but need to give it sometime.

My iPad is up to date, my laptop needs to be updated, will do so shortly.

Oct 30, 2012 01:50 AM #5
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I'm still looking for some stability and performance stats on Win8 to show it's really got the same quality level as Win7.

Vista was a bad OS - slow, memory hog, etc and when Win7 came along it was fast, sleek, and extremely stable.  If Win8 has the same pedigree, I'll upgrade.

Oct 30, 2012 02:04 AM #6
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Hi Kathy, your concerns are understandable. Replacing your old laptop with a new Win 8 machine should not have any impact, your MLS more than likely is relying on you having an Internet Explorer blowser, more thna anything else. And it is also relying on your access to Flash, but that is all part of the Win 8 machine.  I am glad you are using the iPad, but I think when you get a Windows 8 tablet or convertible laptop, you will start realizing that it is a full on computer that can do everything you want it to. 

Bryan - that is funny - in the tech community there is talk that windows 8 should really be known as win 7.1, maybe 7.2. Becasue most of the system is more along an incremental upgrade than a fullblown makeover. 

The most significant news you will see if the former "Metro" UI (User interface), I say former becasue MSS has abandoned the name and now will not refer to Metro anywhere. It is now called Modern... Something about trademarks. 

The big deal about the "modern" interface, is that you get notification on your desktop, rather than static icons - it is an evolution of the Android widgets, and I have to admit, so far it is pretty nice. 

Oct 30, 2012 05:47 AM #7
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Sally Weatherley
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Terkel - Interesting information.  I'm really a truly devoted Apple girl, but it does sound like the Windows 8 is the best of both worlds. 

Oct 30, 2012 06:08 AM #8
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Sally - There are many things to be truly devoted to Apple about... Unfortunately, the convergence of mobile and desk computing is not one of them. I ask my resident fanboy how he would feel about his MacBook Pro in an iPad form factor and he was estatic (arguably less so when I told him it is called Win8)... That said, for what we need (MLS Access, Notes and client management, Contracts - AND - Signatures), Apple is not really performing. I tried signing a listing on my iPad and was told to get buy a printer... And I am fairly savvy. The Android fare slightly better, but a solid stylus is so far superior it is not even funny. 

Oct 30, 2012 06:17 AM #9
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M. Lynn Delatte
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I have an ipad and there are certain things that work better on it than on other platforms.  That being said, my laptop died on Monday, so I had to buy a new one.  I got a machine that runs Windows 8.  Unfortunatelly, due to the lack of power at my house, I have not been able to play with it much.  (I got back power last night.)

Nov 03, 2012 03:09 AM #10
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Well, I'm really happy you got power back.

Did you buy a laptop with touch screen? I'm curious to hear what your experience is like.

I'm also very curious about what your iPad does better than other platforms - other than the form factor. I have one as well, but strictly consider it a toy. I use an Android tablet for work.

Nov 03, 2012 06:19 AM #11
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M. Lynn Delatte
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We bought my father a touch screen computer in May, but mine is not.  Because it was not a planned purchase, I went for a more basic model.  

I like Keynote, Apple's power point software more than Mircosoft or google doc's version.  I am using it to create listing presentations, and other similar presenations.  I can put in internal links that make for a really sleek interface. 

My did have an android for a little while and I found that the iPad worked better for that type of presentation. I have found very few things that I cannot get to work on either platform.

Nov 04, 2012 05:20 AM #12
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I'm in agreement with you on that, the iPad works well for presentations. I use Prezi for my presentations, it will run on both ios and android. 

Nov 04, 2012 03:37 PM #13
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So far so good windows 8 looks awsome, but its also about how the press sees it too.

Nov 04, 2012 03:47 PM #14
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I'm with you there Paul. I also look at it as a utility, is a tool and I want to know what it can or cannot do. For instance, so far, it looks like a Windows tablet will not be able to sign touch sign docs from mobile Zipforms... so the tablet form makes less sense...

Nov 04, 2012 11:24 PM #15
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I tired Microsoft's latets Tablete called Surface!  On packaging alone iPad has a much sleeker finish and feels polished to the touch.  Surface has very sharp and harsh edges.  In fact, at the Store, they have it on a glass surface and every time I was moving it; the anchor in the back of the unit was making that screeching sound of Finger-Nails on a Blackboard!!   Harsh...., so that's ONE on packaging.

Number 2 is that I got the impression that Surface is an After-Thought for Microsoft where the design appears to have started with a Notebook then the form factor was altered to function as a tablet.  iPad was a tablet from the start.  I wanted a device that boots from flash!  The MS guy told me that I can just NEVER shutdown the Surface and just close the lid which puts it to sleep.    Or have my desired app running all the time, but close the lid.......  All of this gave me the impression that this is indeed a PC, parading in a Tablet clothing.

Number 3 is price point where you are asking people to pay a Lexus price for a Toyota!  In fact, buying a Notebook with Win 8 is a MUCH better deal than the Surface.  Unless MS  drops the price of Surface to $200 an below including the Keyboard.  Then you will sell a lot of Toyotas on the street.

 
Nov 12, 2012 01:35 AM #16
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I probably should make that very clear. The current surface run win RT,I honestly can't think of a reason to buy it.

That said, the full Windows 8 that is now on tablets, such as the Samsung smart pc, is a very capable setup And I'll take that over an iPad any day.As faras industrial design goes, that's an individual choice - I wish the iPad was a tool and not a toy...

I'm not sure I get the Lexus reference, the RT is comparable to an iPad, but there are plenty of tablets that out spec the iPad.

Nov 12, 2012 03:30 AM #17
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Unless you are buying a touch screen there is no point in upgrading to Windows 8. I tried the pre-release and found it a steep learning curve. It did have an updated browser Internet explorer 10. That browser is available for download separately as of today. It now features compatibility with CSS 3 and HTML 5.

Nov 14, 2012 04:47 AM #18
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I'm with you on that Douglas. Upgrading to win 8 does not make sense. I am fairly excited about the touch screen implications though, signing digitally is a huge deal in our effort to hug some trees... 

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