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Veterans Day 2012- American Hero or American Zero?

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Veterans Day 2012- American Hero or American Zero?

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Veterans Day 2012- American Hero or American Zero?

There's a lot of fruit salad on that uniform.  "Fruit salad" is military jargon for the ribbons adorning one's chest- the more fruit salad on the chest, the more heroic or accomplished the soldier. Retired General David Petraeus- who resigned his post as our nation's top intelligence officer in disgrace last week- sported a uniform during recent congressional testimony that told the world of his valor and provided visual evidence of an inspiring career.

But is Petraeus an American Hero...or American Zero?

Either as America's top general in Iraq (and subsequently Afghanistan) or as CIA Director, Petraeus' character needed to be above reproach- his integrity unquestioned. As most now know, that wasn't the case. He's admitted to the personal failings of cheating on his wife- at its core a matter judged by his wife and God. But Petraeus' failings don't stop there.

While honesty should be important for everyone, it's critically important for those in our intelligence community. Our enemies can exploit any of our vulnerabilities or shortcomings- whether they be hidden affairs, financial problems or others. That said, no indiscretion is acceptable or tolerable.

When one's failings have been exposed as Petraeus' have been, it immediately casts doubts upon other areas of their leadership and brings question to their truthfulness on every level. In his case, the first area of concern is testimony he gave to Congress regarding the day Ambassador Christopher Stevens and 3 others lost their lives in Benghazi, Libya.

General Petraeus' testimony on 9/13 that those deaths were caused by an uprising that "was spontaneous as opposed to pre-meditated" was directly contradicted by testimony from members of the FBI's National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC), who maintained the deadly attack bore characteristics of Al-Qaeda's planning versus a response to any sort of video. The truth needs to come out

Senator Saxby Chambliss (R-GA), Ranking Member of the Senate Select Committee, calls Petraeus a "great leader" and a "great patriot". I call him a tarnished one. Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) has said Petraeus "has served our country incredibly well".

It brings me no joy to say that while General Petraeus may have served us well over the years, he's surely failed us now. The mission of our intelligence community and the safety of our citizens demands truthful answers and resolutions to any questions he's asked- and I pray his dirty little bedroom secret is the only one he had trouble keeping.

Veterans Day 2012- American Hero or American Zero?

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Lenn Harley
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I have a strong suspicion that the truth about Benghazi will NEVER be revealed to the public.  NEVER.

That said, prepare for more Benghazis.  Our vulnerabilities are now known to our enemies and will be exploited many times over.

 

Nov 11, 2012 07:00 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

My needle points toward zero now.  What are we finally remembered for?  The whole, or the last events?  And with the Libya thing, um, laying in bed with this scandal, well, pointing toward zero!

Nov 11, 2012 08:34 PM
Frank Laisch
Orlando, FL
"The Insurance Guy"

Good call on the visual effects of the retired general. leaning towards zero. I am sure there are plenty of skeletons in those closets...

Nov 11, 2012 08:39 PM
Karl Hess
Keller Williams Shore Properties - Barnegat, NJ
on The Jersey Shore

There's something fishy about this whole thing. If we believe what we've been told it goes something like this: Patraeus was having an affair with his biographer, Paula Broadwell. Broadwell sent threatening emails to another women from the State Departments Military Liason office, Jill Kelly. So Kelly provides the FBI the emails from Broadwell, right? But once the FBI figured out that Broadwell wasn't really a threat, why did the investigation continue, which led to Petraeus?

Is this just the FBI and CIA playing thier stupid 'one-upmanship' game, or is there something else going on....this all doesn't add up for me and from a civil liberties perspective, it's a little scary.

On the Benghazi thing; hasn't it been determined that this was, in reality, a CIA safe house and not really a 'consulate?'

Nov 11, 2012 10:36 PM
Dennis Burgess
AmeriTeam Property Management - Mid Florida, FL
Orlando Property Manager and Realtor

Hi, Lenn:  Thank you for stopping by, and for your comment.  This is another in a long line of frustrating days for me, quite frankly.  Having spent more than 8 years withni the intelligence community, I know that we're not being told "the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth"- the frustrating part is in knowing just enough about various things to be fired-up, yet not being in on things to "know" what I know.

It doesn't take a background in the intelligence community for one to know that Petraeus has been unfaithful- first to God, then his wife, then his country.

Nov 12, 2012 03:01 AM
Dennis Burgess
AmeriTeam Property Management - Mid Florida, FL
Orlando Property Manager and Realtor

Hi, Jay:  Thank you for dropping by.  I've always said that regardless the job being discussed, one is expected to start well and do their best- it's that time when one's on the way out the door when their true character is exposed:  Did they work hard until their very last day?  Did they even show up for their last day?

Petraeus showed up for his last days, alright- but with biographer in tow providing him with a lot of incentives on his way out of the Army and onto the book tour.

Nov 12, 2012 03:07 AM
Dennis Burgess
AmeriTeam Property Management - Mid Florida, FL
Orlando Property Manager and Realtor

Hi, Frank:  Thank you for dropping by and for your comment.  Calling a guy who was one of our more well-respected military leaders just a short time ago a zero isn't something that brings me great joy, to be sure- but it seems fitting and appropriate here.  Doesn't make it sit any better, though- just makes the moniker a correct one.

Nov 12, 2012 03:11 AM
Dennis Burgess
AmeriTeam Property Management - Mid Florida, FL
Orlando Property Manager and Realtor

Hi, Karl:  Thank you for stopping by, and for your comment and sentiment.  With regard to the Broadwell/Kelley thing (procedurally-speaking as I have no personal knowledge here, mind you), an investigation had to be launched once the appearance of impropriety on Petraeus' part was discovered.  Views on the part of Americans as a whole notwithstanding, adultery remains a violation of our Uniformed Code of Military Justice (UCMJ)- Article 134 of it, to be specific.

Folks shouldn't take that as the military being in concert with our churches or anything, mind you- just acting on the premise that adultery inherently involves deceit, deceit creates a vulnerability that opens one up to be exploited and so forth.  That's not a good thing for folks of any military rank or position- but is far worse when the principal involved is he who's charged with protecting the secrets American values most.

I truly take no pleasure in General Petraeus' fall.  My tolerance for those with clearances who've eschewed the notion that safeguarding our nation's secrets is a matter of life and death to many, however, is less than zero if at all possible.

Nov 12, 2012 04:00 AM
Yolanda Hoversten
Self Employed - O'Fallon, IL
Referrals for O’Fallon, IL & the Metro East

I find it truly amazing that the Benghazi story was not covered by the corrupt media. Now that there's tawdriness, they can't seem to get enough of it. However, the story centers around Petreaus' extra-marital affair, not what happened or didn't in Benghazi.

My guess is he's going to recover 100% and be a media & lib darling in the future. Case in point...Bill Clinton, unless Petraeus is revealed to be a closet Republican, then he'd be a Zero.

Nov 12, 2012 07:09 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

THIS THING WAS KNOWN WEEKS AGO!  THAT'S THE SCARY PART!

What did the Little Imam know and when did he know it?  Anyone think Woodward and Bernstein will be on top of this one?

HA!

Now all the "news" that did not dribble out before the election will start to dribble out.  These people are amazing.  I don't use the word $hit, but it applies.

Nov 12, 2012 07:21 AM
Rob Arnold
Sand Dollar Realty Group, Inc. - Altamonte Springs, FL
Metro Orlando Full Service - Investor Friendly & F

Too bad this happened. But it does make him vulnerable for blackmail and other trouble.  When people lie and cheat in one area of their life, you wonder how honest they are in other areas.  Granted with government they are never fully honest with you anyway.

Nov 12, 2012 07:22 AM
Dennis Burgess
AmeriTeam Property Management - Mid Florida, FL
Orlando Property Manager and Realtor

Hi, Yolanda:  Thank you for dropping by, and for your comment and sentiments.  I'd have to say that the problm isn't a lac of coverage with regard to Benghazi- but rather that the coverage has been incomplete and inaccurate.  Isn't it amazing how a medi collective that at once claims both moral and intellectual high ground could be duped into believing the whole "blame goes on the video" mantra?  Simple answer to that- they weren't duped at all, but rather chose the path of convenient ignorance over that of inconvenient fact-finding and knowledge.

Nov 12, 2012 11:44 AM
Dennis Burgess
AmeriTeam Property Management - Mid Florida, FL
Orlando Property Manager and Realtor

Hi, Jay:  Thank you for dropping by again.  Waiting for all kinds of stuff to come out of the woodwork, no doubt- all kinds of things our fellow Americans on the Left are most assuredly preparing excuses for before the issues' "big reveals" are placed on the grand media schedule.

Nov 12, 2012 11:53 AM
Karl Hess
Keller Williams Shore Properties - Barnegat, NJ
on The Jersey Shore

I'm relatively familiar with the UCMJ, but Petraeus is retired...unless this started before he left the Army...and they have 8x10 glossies with a verifiable date stamp, a violation of the UCMJ would be very difficult to prove.

Nov 12, 2012 09:07 PM
Yolanda Hoversten
Self Employed - O'Fallon, IL
Referrals for O’Fallon, IL & the Metro East

Hi, Dennis - I respectfully disagree that there's no problem in coverage on Benghazi. Yes, Fox News, some foreign outlets, and blogs reported about it, but the main stream alphabet media like ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, NPR and of course MSNBC didn't. Like it or not, the American public rely on these networks for their news.

Yes, the fourth rail is supposed to be the vanguard of truth, but they have willingly ignored the murder of four Americans abroad to help re-elect 0bama.

Petraeus might get some of the shine back when he testifies. We'll see if he'd do the honorable thing by telling the truth. However, if his testimony exposes the CINC to be complicit in the Benghazi fiasco, you will see the corrupt media smear the general to make the testimony suspect.

It's all so sad and disgusting.

Nov 14, 2012 04:30 AM
Dennis Burgess
AmeriTeam Property Management - Mid Florida, FL
Orlando Property Manager and Realtor

Hi, Karl:  Thank you for dropping by once again.  By all accounts, the Broadwell affair did occur while he was still active duty Army- as he didn't retire until August of last year (2011).  Both he and she have admitted such- or so I've heard from a few sources.  Broadwell remains a Reservist and subject to any Article 134 proceedings herself to this day.

Would they pursuse the adultery charge- meaning pursue it in and of itself?  Doubtful.  Remember, though, that the importance (or issue) with the affair at this point isn't the moral one that him/his wife and her/her husband will have to sort out among themselves and with the Lord above.  Rather, this is a matter of whether this disgraced general offered himself for compromise/exploitation by an enemy (which he surely did).

I'm not saying either of these folks has definitely provided classified material to an enemy by any means, mind you- the key is that he left himself open to the blackmail, etc that can come from these situations.  That's the key.

Nov 15, 2012 03:23 AM
Dennis Burgess
AmeriTeam Property Management - Mid Florida, FL
Orlando Property Manager and Realtor

Hi again, Yolanda:  Thank you for dropping by again, and for your comment.  Checking my #12 above (and throwing out typos that resulted from using my phone to draft it), my words might have been incomplete/insufficient.  The media is surely falling for Obama's smoke and mirrors campaign here and choosing to chase the scandal they see as the most salacious- and in doing so, place each of the 2 ongoing stories on equal footing.  This shouldn't be.

As John Mc Cain so eloquently put it, "Benghazi" is about 4 dead Americans.  The Petraeus/Broadwell/Kelley(?)/Dunn/whomever else scandal, while surely serious (and as you say, disgusting), hasn't proven deadly up to this point.

I'm eagerly anticipating outcome of the Senate Intelligence Committee's hearing with Petraeus (or as much as we can get from it).  Though other committees (perhaps all of them) engage in partisanship, bickering and foolishness, the Intelligence Committee has proven itself one where partisanship is for the most part left at the door.

Though a Democrat, Dianne Feinstein remains one of the most universally-respected mebers of the Senate- and I share the respect others have for her.  I have faith that both her and Saxby Chambliss will conduct the fair, thorough and impartial hearings necessary to get to the bottom of this mess.

Lastly, I'll say that I won't join the chorus of folks singing Petraeus' praises for his having stepped aside from his CIA post without a fight to keep the position.  One of the "traits of a leader" a soldier is expected to uphold instructs that one is to both seek responsibility and take responsibility for their actions.  I can't honestly support an argument that Petraeus has effectively taken responsibility for his actions in the term's truest sense.

Did he do the right thing in resigning?  Absolutely.  But only when his affair was discovered and his hand forced into doing so.

Nov 15, 2012 05:06 AM
Dennis Burgess
AmeriTeam Property Management - Mid Florida, FL
Orlando Property Manager and Realtor

Hi, Rob:  Thank you for dropping by, and for your comment.  Blackmail is a dangerous thing.  While folks can be blackmailed into doing tons of things, a common thread runs through each of the scenarios:  those on the "being" side of the blackmailing wouldn't be there were it not for their having done something wrong that they fear seeing the light of day.

Sad, indeed.  No matter what comes out of the upcoming Benghazi hearings, some measure of good will accompany it.  Petraeus' other "issue"?  Not seeing any possibility for good there.

Nov 15, 2012 05:16 AM