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Jumping Jack Flash it’s a gas!

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Home Inspector with NCW Home Inspections, LLC

Jumping Jack Flash it’s a gas! Wenatchee and Kittitas Home Inspection Services

Well I really do not know how many jumping jacks I am doing when I am entering an attic space during a home inspection.

I find attic inspections are maybe the most restrictive areas of the home for a thorough inspection. With the premise of do no harm to the home I have to always weigh doing my best for my client versus being very careful not to damage any ceilings, wiring, ducting and insulation.

This is where in older homes I usually actually can do a much better attic inspection. They tend to not be built with truss systems or usually do not have a great amount of insulation to worry about compressing.

But like all areas a thorough examination of the home is what the aim is.

Here is another example of why going into those spaces are crucial. In this home I found not one vent stack venting into the home but three, along with the infamous bath fan venting into the attic.

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Well from the obvious that the sewer gasses are moisture laden and will cause the sheeting and structure to rot. Also under certain conditions the home can created a "negative" air flow and sucked air from the attic down the walls and out through any openings, such as electrical outlets and can lights. And this just stinks.

Sewer gas is a complex mixture of toxic and non-toxic gases that can be present at varying levels depending upon the source.  It is formed during the decay of household waste. Highly toxic components of sewer gas include hydrogen sulfide and ammonia. Exposure to low levels of hydrogen sulfide causes irritation of the eyes and respiratory tract.

Sewer gas also contains methane, carbon dioxide, sulfur dioxide, chlorine bleaches, solvents and nitrous oxides. Methane and hydrogen sulfide are flammable and highly explosive.

So if the right conditions are present and hit the switch then I could become Jumping Jack Flash.

Ancora Imparo


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Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Don, also, most do not realize how much moisture can be dumped into the roof structure from plumbing vents that don't go to the outside.

Dec 13, 2012 11:09 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Could you tell as soon as you opened the hatch Don?  Yummie!  And, could you tell something wrong with the air in the bedroom below?

Dec 13, 2012 11:55 PM
Wayne Johnson
Coldwell Banker D'Ann Harper REALTORS® - San Antonio, TX
San Antonio REALTOR, San Antonio Homes For Sale

Donald-That's why I always recommend my buyer clients use the services of a qualified inspector. Especially one who can explain findings in non-technical language.

Dec 14, 2012 10:17 AM
Robert Butler
Aspect Inspection - Montreal West Island, QC
Montreal Home Inspector | Aspect Inspection

And this just stinks. oh yeah, absolutely. Just think of all that gets put down into the sewers.

It'll make you gag.

Dec 14, 2012 10:29 AM
Wayne B. Pruner
Oregon First - Tigard, OR
Tigard Oregon Homes for Sale, Realtor, GRI

That is a dangerous and unhealthy situation. Ya wonder how it could be that way for so long.

Dec 14, 2012 01:24 PM
Donald Hester
NCW Home Inspections, LLC - Wenatchee, WA
NCW Home Inspections, LLC

Charlie, they sure can produce a nasty spew.

Jay, I had my mask on so I really do not smell much.

Wayne, Thank you.

Dec 14, 2012 01:45 PM
Donald Hester
NCW Home Inspections, LLC - Wenatchee, WA
NCW Home Inspections, LLC

Robert, Yeah this is one you really do not want to think too much about ; )

Wayne, It really can make people sick.

Dec 14, 2012 01:47 PM
Rob Ernst
Certified Structure Inspector - Reno, NV
Reno, NV-775-410-4286 Inspector & Energy Auditor

I've seen the plumbing vent do exactly what your pictures show. There is more than just air in those pipes. 

Dec 14, 2012 02:40 PM
Ritu Desai 703-625-4949
Samson Properties - Chantilly, VA
Northern Virginia,Washington DC & Maryland Realtor

WOW sounds scary and gross to have sewage line vent into attic and not outside. Have a great home inspector on your side does make a huge difference.

Dec 14, 2012 09:31 PM
Gary L. Waters Broker Associate, Bucci Realty
Bucci Realty, Inc. - Melbourne, FL
Eighteen Years Experience in Brevard County

Seems like this would be from what I call collateral damage - owner installed with lack of knowledge. But was this from the builder?

Dec 14, 2012 09:34 PM
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Donald, I'm surprised the owners didn't notice the odor on the upper level. Sewer gas has a noticeable bad odor.

Dec 14, 2012 09:58 PM
Mike Cooper, Broker VA,WV
Cornerstone Business Group Inc - Winchester, VA
Your Neighborhood Real Estate Sales Pro

Shew, Donald.  That is one I have never seen.  I'm with Michael #11.  Didn't they notice some kind of odor?  It's a good think youl checked the attic on this one.

Dec 14, 2012 10:05 PM
Donald Hester
NCW Home Inspections, LLC - Wenatchee, WA
NCW Home Inspections, LLC

Rob, So true. I have seen goo also on the top of a stack.

Ritu, Thank you and it is not pretty.

Gary, I am guesing homeowner or handyman, but definitely lack of knowledge.

Michael, You would think but sometime we all get used to stuff.

Mike, Sometimes the odor can be faint and maybe you think it is something else.

 

Dec 14, 2012 11:13 PM
Sajy Mathew
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Lancaster, PA
Making your real estate dreams become a reality!

I have into this vent to the attic issue a few times.  I just wonder who says, "hey this is a great idea!"  LOL!

Dec 14, 2012 11:23 PM
Donald Hester
NCW Home Inspections, LLC - Wenatchee, WA
NCW Home Inspections, LLC

Sajy, I guess going through the roof seemed like a bad idea, till you rot the roof out ; )

Dec 14, 2012 11:29 PM
Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366
Dry Rot and Water Damage www.tromlerconstruction.com Mobile - 916-765-5366 - Placerville, CA
General Contractor, Dry Rot and Water Damage

Thank God for respirators Donald. Sounds like a real stinker!  :)

Dec 14, 2012 11:30 PM
Donald Hester
NCW Home Inspections, LLC - Wenatchee, WA
NCW Home Inspections, LLC

Tom, Ain't that the truth. I actually could not smell anything.  But I was not trying to get a whiff ; )

I always wear a respirator when entering attics and crawlspaces.

Dec 14, 2012 11:36 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

That is often how I find these short terminated vents, by the stink. Howver this practice is allowed under certain circumstances. 

Dec 15, 2012 09:56 PM