Sometimes "Grampa just needs to retire".

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Home Inspector with Desert Sun Home, commercial Inspections 10072923

Sometimes "Grampa just needs to retire".

There are a lot of things on a home that gets "grand fathered in".

At Desert Sun Home inspections in Carlsbad New Mexico, we work hard to make a report that is the best report for the buyer.

It is not up to us as inspectors to say this needs to be changed just because it's outdated or just old.

Case in point. The electrical system on this home had been upgraded but a long time ago.

It seems the owners never stopped building or adding additions to the home.

But the electrical was not up graded for the home as the home grew in size.

The nice home started out as a 1,100 two bedroom one bath home with no garage and just the home on the electrical system.

Built in the 1950's and after many new additions to the home, now the home is a whopping 2,800 Square feet.

Here is a look at the electrical panel for the entire home.

Home electrical panel.

As you can see there are not many breakers for the home in the main panel.

I think there were "other panels" in the home, but I was unable to find any more sub panels anywhere.

Most of the home was the older style ungrounded plug system.

Some of the plugs were the three pronged proper style plugs that were wired correctly.

As an inspector there are times when "Grampa needs to retire".

How would you write this one up as an home inspection in your area? A little help please.

Have a grerat day everyone.

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Clint  McKie

Owner of Desert Sun Home Inspections Carlsbad, New Mexico. Eddy County's only certified home inspection service WITH OVER 30 YEARS EXPERIENCE. Serving all of South East New Mexico. We inspect the homes entire structure from the roof to the foundation, and everything in between. Most reports within 4-24 hours from time of inspection completion. We issue a PDF report with pictures Starting at $250.00 for each home inspection. Why settle for less when you can have the best?

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Rainmaker
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Anita Clark
Coldwell Banker Access Realty ~ 478.960.8055 - Warner Robins, GA
Realtor - Homes for Sale in Warner Robins GA

Clint: Not being an inspector I will circle back and see what other inspectors have to say a little later. 

Jan 28, 2013 08:35 PM #1
Rainmaker
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Clint, there better be some sub-panels somewhere. Did you say 2,800 square feet? I say "run don't walk and don't look back!" Enjoy your day!

Jan 28, 2013 08:37 PM #2
Rainmaker
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Gary L. Waters Broker Associate, Bucci Realty
Bucci Realty, Inc. - Melbourne, FL
Fifteen Years Experience in Brevard County

Being not qualified to deal with is I will await the experts.  There is nothing grampa can't do!

Jan 28, 2013 08:38 PM #3
Rainmaker
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Monica Hill
RE/Max Associates - Wilmington, DE
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My first question would be... is the panel stickered? If not, that would be part of the request. I always look to the home inspector for his/her expertise so if the home inspector says the panel is inadequate for the house, then we'd be stating that the Buyer would be willing to remove the Home Inspection contingency if the Seller (in addition to anything else discovered) has a licensed contractor properly upgrade the electric panel and secure an inspection sticker. 

Jan 28, 2013 08:40 PM #4
Rainmaker
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Patricia Feager, MBA, CRS, GRI,MRP
DFW FINE PROPERTIES - Flower Mound, TX
Selling Homes Changing Lives

Clint,

Ah Ha! So what you're saying is if you buy a house like this and don't make any improvements and get that electrical up to code by today's fire and safety standards, you might as well enjoy all the comforts of living in a home without all the modern electrical conveniences, such as fast Internet speed, flat screen T.V., Sound Systems, power tools to build room additions, hobbies, etc., etc., etc.

Oh and by the way, better think about getting adequate insurance, you might need it!

Jan 28, 2013 08:48 PM #5
Rainer
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Conrad Allen
Re/Max Professional Associates - Webster, MA
Webster, Ma, Realtor

Hi Clint.  There has to be other panels.  That panel was not double tapped.  What is all the new plugs being hooked up to?  A real head scratcher.

Jan 28, 2013 08:55 PM #6
Rainmaker
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Roger D. Mucci
Shaken...with a Twist 216.633.2092 - Euclid, OH
Lets shake things up at your home today!

Leaving this one to the experts, all I can say is, it looks dangerous..............even if it's okay with grandpa.

Jan 28, 2013 09:14 PM #7
Rainmaker
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Fred Hernden, CMI
Superior Home Inspections - Greater Albuquerque Area - Albuquerque, NM
Albuquerque area Master Inspector

That's it? And you couldn't find any sub panels? I would write it as it appears to be inadequately sized, and that it needed to be further evaluated by an electrical engineer or qualified electrician.

Jan 28, 2013 09:26 PM #8
Rainmaker
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Al Raymondi
Ocean View Realty Group in Ormond By The Sea Florida - Ormond Beach, FL
Ormond By The Sea Florida - Home and Condo Sales

Grandpa must be related to uncle Bob Clint, these electrical issues are always OK until there is a fire.

Jan 28, 2013 10:08 PM #9
Rainmaker
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Joshua Zargari
MJ Decorators Workshop LI staging and home decorating - Lynbrook, NY
MJ Decorators Workshop

Good evening Clint.

A house should meet all building codes.

It is important for the safety of the home owner.

Jan 29, 2013 08:43 AM #10
Rainmaker
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C. Lloyd McKenzie
Albuquerque, NM
Living Albuquerque

Just wanted to stopby and show my support fHave a graer

Jan 29, 2013 03:38 PM #11
Rainmaker
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James Dray
Fathom Realty - Bentonville, AR
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Don't let age fool you young man.  there are things nice to be said about gram pas.  I might add he maybe letting the weight effect him some and may need assistance from a younger pup.  YEA! for gram pa.

Jan 29, 2013 06:57 PM #12
Rainmaker
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Donald Hester
NCW Home Inspections, LLC - Wenatchee, WA
NCW Home Inspections, LLC

Clint, Well if that's the main there some issues going on. Do not turn all the lights on ; ) Plus where was the main disconnect?

Jan 31, 2013 10:08 AM #13
Rainmaker
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Clint Mckie
Desert Sun Home, commercial Inspections - Carlsbad, NM
Desert Sun Home, Comm. Inspection 1-575-706-5586

Thank you Anita for the visit and comment.

Have a great day.

Best, Clint mcKie

Feb 06, 2013 10:44 PM #14
Rainmaker
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Hank Spinnler
Harmony Home Inspection Services of GA - Hoschton, GA
Atlanta Home Inspector

If those switches are serving as the main disconnects, there's more than 6 switches too. Was it a 60 or 100 amp panel?

Feb 10, 2013 12:27 AM #15
Rainmaker
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Clint Mckie
Desert Sun Home, commercial Inspections - Carlsbad, NM
Desert Sun Home, Comm. Inspection 1-575-706-5586

Hi Everyone,

These are the only breakers in the home. There is no main disconnect and the input to the home is 60 amps.

Not a good thing in any situation for any one. Let alone for the buyers.

Have a great day everyone.

Best, Clint McKie

Feb 11, 2013 07:49 PM #16
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