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Paying Upfront- Where's the Incentive

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Real Estate Agent with eXp Realty

This morning in my companies sales meeting, an agent brought up a story about a limited service/discount broker and the affect on the seller. The story goes.....  A seller decides to list his home so that he can retire in Utah.  The seller interviews several agents and decides to go with the broker that suggested the highest sales price.  As part of the listing agreement, the seller had to pre-pay the listing company for their services. The total came to $2,995.

The home was listed for over a year and the seller was paying on two mortgages. His new house in Utah and the listed house in Colorado. This story has several items that need to be addressed including:

1) The seller went with the highest suggested list price and the lowest commission. Who was the only party that benefitted? The listing company! Pre-paying for real estate services cannot be a motivating factor for a listing company. They already have their money and their performance is no longer relavent. Anyone that disagrees, consult your human nature handbook.
2) The listing company had only one goal, to get the up-front $. The success fee that full service agents receive is just that, a success fee. No sale, no $.
3) The seller moved to Utah, bought another house and watched his retirement savings dwindle. It is unknown if the listing company offered any substantiated service while the seller was in Utah. No accountability, no success but still paid (a discounted) commission.
4) Eventually the seller got fed up and decided to consult with another agent. One of the same agents that had interviewed for the job over a year earlier. The agent recommended a price that was $70,000 less than the limited service/discount broker. By the way, the price recommended by the 2nd agent was the same price that he had recommended a year earlier. 
5) The 2nd agent ended up selling the home close to his recommended price and within 30 days. The seller could have saved himself a year's time, a year's worth of mortgage payments, $2,995 in unearned commission and a tremendous amount of grief.

I am by no means saying that only limited service/discount brokers are the only one's guilty of ethics voilations but the structure of this particular listing company lends itself to potential conflicts or questionable ethics voilations. No services rendered before commissions earned, clearly poor market analysis and any seller would hate to walk away from the $2,995 that they already invested into the sale of their home.

Re-print from one of my other websites 6/12/2007

Epcon Communities Epcon Columbia
Epcon Columbia, SC - Columbia, SC
That is crazy.  But, it does happen.  Realtors charge retainers and all kinds of things.  Most of the public says no.  Sad it ended badly for this guy.
Feb 06, 2008 02:01 PM
Gregory Maley
Sold Buy the Sea Realty & R.E.N.T. - Wilmington, NC
REALTOR, GRI, CBR, SHS, e-PRO, ABR
My mama taught me that you get what you pay for.  While that's not *always* true, I sure would have asked a few more questions if I was that seller.
Feb 06, 2008 02:01 PM
Robert Huntsinger
Empire Realty - Upland, CA
Empire Realty Upland, CA - Full Service at a Discount

Yea, to pay up front for something you can get and pay through escrow is insane.

Take care!

RJH

Feb 06, 2008 02:04 PM
Endea Thibodeaux
Lanham, MD
Solar Energy Consultant, CDPE, CLHMS
Interesting how some peoples penny-pinching ends up getting them in the pocket in the long run.
Feb 06, 2008 02:05 PM
Bill Gillhespy
16 Sunview Blvd - Fort Myers Beach, FL
Fort Myers Beach Realtor, Fort Myers Beach Agent - Homes & Condos
Sounds pretty typical for a seloler mentality doesn't it ?   Trying to get a little more while paying alittle less. 
Feb 06, 2008 02:09 PM
M. Suzi Woods (Gravenstuk)
NOW Sharing the life and spice of the GC one day at a time - Grand Canyon, AZ
Suzi Woods, Prior Independent REBroker in MS
Was it his choice to move before selling?
Feb 06, 2008 02:23 PM
Lynda Eisenmann
Preferred Home Brokers - Brea, CA
Broker Associate ,CRS,GRI,SRES, Brea,CA, Orange Co

Hi there,

Some states like CA have strict requirments on advance fee payments, yet many are not aware of it.

Feb 06, 2008 02:38 PM
Kurt Vierheller
Flagstar Bank - Wilmington, NC
That is the 1st I ever heard of this. I beleive that seller is crazy!!! That $3000 cost them alot more in the end.
Feb 06, 2008 02:49 PM
Michael Eisenberg
eXp Realty - Bellingham, WA
Bellingham Real Estate Guy
I guess you get what you pay for and in some cases like this you don't even get that
Feb 06, 2008 02:49 PM
Mike Gambino
Prudential Patterson Realtors - Florissant, MO
GRI

The #1 thing I picked up from this was your statement of a success fee.  In 11 years of Real Estate, I don't think I have ever heard or have used that phrase.  You are point on with that.  I will incorporate that statement into all my listing presentation in lieu of the word commission.  Kudos!

Feb 06, 2008 02:55 PM