Illegal Inducement or $500.00 Incentive… You Tell Me!!

By
Title Insurance with Family Abstract, Inc.

Family Abstract would AGAIN like to attentionbring this to your attention!!!!! Section 8 of RESPA prohibits anyone from giving or accepting a fee, kickback or anything of value in exchange for referrals of settlement service business involving a federally related mortgage loan. In addition, RESPA prohibits fee splitting and receiving unearned fees for services not actually performed.  That means that giving a consumer $500.00 towards closings costs IF the buyer uses the Realtors Lender and title Company  is an illegal inducement. Or is it?  I have been doing Title Insurance for 28 years, under RESPA, we were led to believe it was not legal, BUT maybe under the new CFPB it is?

LANDMARK (click to see the contract)

In a nutshell… here it is…Landmark Homes has a preferred Lender and Title/Settlement Company agreement that gives the home buyer a $500.00 dollar “incentive” if and only if the consumer uses the title and mortgage company that Landmark is affiliated with.  If at any time the client opts out of the agreement, perhaps because the bundled service NEVER stacks up to the quality and professionalism that is offered by Independent Mortgage and Title companies, the “incentive” is immediately removed.

Definition of Incentive

Something that incites or has a tendency to incite to determination or actionRelated Words inducement, invitation; antecedent, cause, consideration, grounds, motive, occasion, reason; catalyst, catalyzer, fuel, spark                     HHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM???????

As an independent title agent, “Offers” like these ostensibly take our agency off the playing field.  The law is clear, both the consumers for accepting the money and the Realtor for inducing the client to take it are at risk.

 Under section 9,  RESPA prohibits a seller from requiring the home buyer to use a particular title insurance company, either directly or indirectly, as a condition of sale. Buyers may sue a seller who violates this provision for an amount equal to three times all charges made for the title insurance.  Would a $500.00 discount be considered directly or indirectly coaxing a sale?

500 bucksI have only been doing this 28 years, I don’t profess to know everything, some days I swear I know nothing but having Landmark Homes waive $500.00 bucks if and only if the consumer uses their title and mortgage providers even with proper disclosure stinks of extortion. 

Of course that’s just my opinion, I could be wrong!

What are your thoughts?

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Comments (17)

John McCormack, CRS
Albuquerque Homes Realty - Albuquerque, NM
Honesty, Integrity, Results, Experienced. HIRE Me!

Thanks Glenn.  I'm going to read the article and see what the devil in the details are.  SUGGESTED

Jul 09, 2013 02:07 AM
Dick Greenberg
New Paradigm Partners LLC - Fort Collins, CO
Northern Colorado Residential Real Estate

Hi Glenn - RESPA has always scared the crap out of us, and I don't think most of us have any idea how to parse those regulations on fine points. But I would agree that the practice you describe has always been something that makes us uncomfortable, and we've seen it with mortgage lenders for a very long time - I've never seen it with title companies though - would that distinction make a functional difference? Either it's okay, since it's been going on for so long, or it's not, but nobody cares to enforce it.

Jul 09, 2013 02:15 AM
Anna Banana Kruchten CRS, CRB, Phoenix Broker
HomeSmart Real Estate BR030809000 - Phoenix, AZ
602-380-4886

Glenn this has been going on for years with builders here in AZ.  They offer the buyer a lot more than $500 - closer to thousands and thousands as incentives to use their inhouse lender and title company (which they don't even have an option to opt out of using) and if they do not - poof - incentive is no longer available.  How have they been doing this for so long?  There must be a loop hole of some kind.

Great conversation - let's get it going and learn more......

 

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Jul 09, 2013 02:21 AM
Steven Cook
No Longer Processing Mortgages. - Tacoma, WA

Glenn -- since my training on RESPA says I can't treat a real estate agent or title/escrow person to a lunch without probability of losing my license - I don't know how this can be legal; as $500 is surely more than we would spend for lunch!  BTW -- my former manager was even concerned about giving out advertising pens - because if didn't do it for everyone could again be in violation.

Jul 09, 2013 02:39 AM
Glenn Freezman
Family Abstract, Inc. - Horsham, PA

John, thanks for suggesting, I do appreciate that!  If you come up with a answer, please advise.

Jul 09, 2013 02:48 AM
Glenn Freezman
Family Abstract, Inc. - Horsham, PA

Dick, it does not make a darn bit of difference, in fact in doubles the exposure and the fines.  In our 5 county area, theRealtor control 98% of the title insurance that is placed through their own business arrangements.  The builder then owns their own title company and so does the lender.  Where does that leave the independent title agent that works for the consumer????  Out the door like the Saber tooth Tiger on the Flintstones!

Jul 09, 2013 02:56 AM
Glenn Freezman
Family Abstract, Inc. - Horsham, PA

Anna, THANKS FOR THE FEATURE IN THE TUDE.  The loophole is a total lack of understanding and consumer apathy.  There is no such thing as FREE!!! The discounts are coming from somewhere and I will guarantee the consumer is paying for it, in full somewhere in the deal.  There was recently a big builder...

A settlement between the federal Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and a Texas homebuilder is drawing renewed attention to a controversial issue that was prominent during the years preceding the housing bubble: kickbacks in home real estate transactions.

Put another way, do you know where your money is really going when you pay thousands of dollars in loan fees and closing charges? Is your realty broker or builder getting an extra piece of the action through side deals with lenders or title agencies — all at your expense through higher charges?

The CFPB’s allegations in its case against Dallas-based Paul Taylor Homes illustrate how these arrangements can work: According to the settlement, the builder created partnerships with two lenders — one a bank, the other a mortgage company. In reality, however, according to the CFPB, “both entities were shams” designed to funnel kickbacks to Taylor for referrals of home purchasers needing mortgages.

Then we can look at...This was the second such case the CFPB has settled in the past two months. In April, the agency fined four large mortgage insurance companies — Mortgage Guaranty Insurance Corporation, Radian Guaranty, Genworth Mortgage Insurance Corporation and United Guaranty Corporation — a total of $15.4 million for alleged illegal kickbacks to lenders. The under-the-table payments, said CFPB Director Richard Cordray, “inflat[ed] the financial burden of homeownership for consumers” by raising their mortgage premium charges. The firms admitted no wrongdoing as part of their settlements.

Thanks again Anna, maybe we can get some true conversation going, I appreciate the feature!!

Jul 09, 2013 03:03 AM
Glenn Freezman
Family Abstract, Inc. - Horsham, PA

Steven, the ten dollar thing is a complete joke, i really hope that the CFPB continues to attack the illegal kickbacks and levels the playing field for the collective benefit of the consumers, the independent title and mortgage players and the Realtors involved. 

Jul 09, 2013 03:06 AM
Anna Banana Kruchten CRS, CRB, Phoenix Broker
HomeSmart Real Estate BR030809000 - Phoenix, AZ
602-380-4886

Glenn I don't know of any instances where agents received 'kickbacks' in my neck of the woods - quite the opposite actually.  It seems more like buyers were wooed into using their lender to save a lot of money - it has always bothered me for years. I let the buyers know that they have a choice and fought to maintain the 'incentive bonus' if they chose another lender.  Not successfully, except in a few cases.  How do they get away with this? What is the loop hole?

Jul 09, 2013 03:40 AM
Glenn Freezman
Family Abstract, Inc. - Horsham, PA

Anna, how about the answer.... Nothing is illegal until you get caught!

Jul 09, 2013 03:46 AM
Liz and Bill Spear
RE/MAX Elite 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
RE/MAX Elite Warren County OH (Cincinnati/Dayton)

Glenn, I know that same $500 incentive/inducement/bribe is offered by builders here to use their affiliate mortgage company, although I think technically it's the mortgage company providing the $500 and the builders just advertise it.  And that may be their way of avoiding RESPA concerns? 

Jul 09, 2013 04:24 AM
Glenn Freezman
Family Abstract, Inc. - Horsham, PA

Liz and Bill, The builder and mortgage company most likely have an affiliated business arrangement, it matters not where the money comes from the entity is doing illegal acts.  In your scenario the mortgage company is paying the builder to coax the buyers into using the mortgage company.  ask...  WHY????  I can guarantee it's not because the builder is a good guy!

Jul 09, 2013 04:29 AM
Kathy Sheehan
Bay Equity, LLC 770-634-4021 - Atlanta, GA
Senior Loan Officer

Respa has always been an area for interpretation.  The builders here is Georgia have been doing the same thing for years.

Jul 09, 2013 10:42 AM
Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

The builders sway buyers here by agreeing to pay more closing costs only if their title company is used. It has gone on for years.

Jul 09, 2013 02:20 PM
Glenn Freezman
Family Abstract, Inc. - Horsham, PA

Kathy, how about when they turn around and place their own agent in there as well and use his/her commission as bate and just pay the agent a salary?  Is that "Acceptable" in your eyes?

Jul 09, 2013 11:46 PM
Glenn Freezman
Family Abstract, Inc. - Horsham, PA

The Real Debbie Reynolds should know that just because it's been going on for years does not make it right.  It just makes it illegally going on for years.  Do you believe that there are any actual real savings being seen by the consumer?

 

Jul 09, 2013 11:48 PM
Gene Mundt, IL/WI Mortgage Originator - FHA/VA/Conv/Jumbo/Portfolio/Refi
NMLS #216987, IL Lic. 031.0006220, WI Licensed. APMC NMLS #175656 - New Lenox, IL
708.921.6331 - 40+ yrs experience

Glenn:  RESPA dictates much of what should be good sound business decisions, good ethics, and common sense.  Over the years I've seen many examples of what you write about.  And I've lost business because I refused to take part in negotiating like "incentives" ... or paying for an agent's marketing ... or .. or ... or ... the list goes on.  Even if RESPA didn't restrict some of these actions, I'd have to say they don't sit well with me and I wouldn't be taking part anyway.  But we ALL should have a playing field, especially when larger companies are in the mix.  Good post and keep on preachin' the message ...

Gene 

Jul 10, 2013 12:39 AM

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