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Real Estate SEO - What Color Is Your Hat?

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Real Estate SEO Expert Hat Secrets Revealed

SEOs take off your hats when you come in here. That's in essence what Google is saying to everyone. Real estate SEO is no exception. I've seen websites where the claim is made, "We're totally white hat SEO." and such nonsense.

I say that virtually any real estate SEO done in any way is not "white hat." It's just somewhere between off-white to flaming red to black hat SEO. It's some combination of things often called white hat, often practiced successfully to manipulate search results in favor of a real estate website, usually to compete with aggregators, syndicates, and large real estate corporation websites. All of them borrow your content (MLS Listing content) and rank against you with your own content, and then some of them sell you your own leads from your own market.

Google's take on fighting that with SEO, officially, is that anything you do to influence search results is not condoned.

Direct from Google's TOS: "Another useful test is to ask, "Does this help my users? Would I do this if search engines didn't exist?""

This is coupled with the ongoing mantra to "create quality content that people naturally want to link to."

In essence, you shouldn't even think about search engines but simply create awesome content and sing kum ba ya. This may work for some popular bloggers in already established and ranked websites but what about the local competitor to WalMart? What about the local real estate agent competing with the content, listing and link aggregators like Zillow, Trulia and others that "borrow" your listing content and sell leads to agents?

Real estate SEO is as white hat as any other SEO. It's not. Nothing you do to influence search is approved by Google and the aggregators win with your content.

So what about SEO being against what Google says are their "Terms Of Service?"

You do it anyway but don't press your luck with extreme tactics.

Let's talk about how real estate SEO fits in with Google's terms of service. Google outlines a set of "worst practices." Not in a neat concise way but over time as you listen to Matt Cutts and read the Webmaster Tools posts and content.

Creating the best content you can is a no-brainer. You won't win without it because you won't convert.

Links that pass page rank. Google would like you to create links never. Not anywhere. Not any time.

real estate SEO and links

Google does not like them in any style.

Destroy that link! Today! Today!

Today I say!

Without delay!

If you can live with that, great. Best of luck to you. Go out and create content and hope clients find your real estate website without real estate SEO. This website and my service are not for you.

If you have taken your reality pill. Proceed on and we can get some things done reasonably and push past the brand resistance and competitors who are using real estate SEO and we can win your online marketing battles together.

TOS - are you bound? By no means. Do you have a contract with Google? I didn't think so. They can do whatever they want and you can do whatever you want on the Internet on and with any website for any legal ethical reason at all. People do it every day.

Why does Google make such a fuss about links anyway? Because in this day of "Social Media" and "Content Marketing" links still work. Powerfully.

Google has a reason to want to keep the lid on links. 

Some of that is excellent. Nobody wants to type in a query about finding real estate locally and have a few websites rank at the top of all the search results that are in essence selling referrals do they? 

Wait a minute.

Isn't that's exactly what's going on?

Google does love the brands don't they? And the TOS and quality content guidelines seem to be simply suspended.

Think about what that means to you as a local competitor.

When you're able to see past the trees and understand the forest you start to realize that there is pretty much a "safety zone" of activity when it comes to link-building and then there is a danger zone. I have a track record of staying in the safety zone so I can help you do the same.

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Comments(24)

Dave Keys
MOVE UP in Google Search Learn How Here - Brea, CA
Chief Search Strategist Real Estate SEO Expert

Excellent approach @John, Focused content gets exactly the right lead in exactly the right mindset to do business with you. Don't overlook video for properties, street names and sometimes even community level names. A simple video with every available space for text filled in. Title should equal your target search term, the same term and a variation go in the description and don't forget the tags. This alone, or this with a link or two from other websites back to the video URL are often enough to produce a video thumbnail in organic Google results. More competitive terms require more links to the video. It may take some practice to get it right but there's nothing like a video on organic search results to get the right traffic.

Jul 14, 2013 11:27 AM
Ginny Gorman
RI Real Estate Services ~ 401-529-7849~ RI Waterfront Real Estate - North Kingstown, RI
Homes for Sale in Southern RI and beyond

Dave, you always share so willingly and with the best effects for the right results!

Jul 14, 2013 12:46 PM
Joan Whitebook
BHG The Masiello Group - Nashua, NH
Consumer Focused Real Estate Services

Interesting.  I had no idea that there were so many hats.  You can see I am not up to speed on this, but it is a very informative post nonetheless.

Jul 14, 2013 12:49 PM
Dave Keys
MOVE UP in Google Search Learn How Here - Brea, CA
Chief Search Strategist Real Estate SEO Expert

@Ginny, the tactics and methods matter much less than the marketing strategies put into place once any visibility is accomplished. Maybe Google insists on handing over the lion's share of traffic to a few big box sites but nobody can beat the local agent for their own personality and value. Google is making a mistake by hiding most local agents on page 2 or lower of search. 

 

@Joan There really are no hats at all. It used to be that some were considered "white hat" and some were the "black hat" SEOs. Now Google has all but decided that people shouldn't do SEO at all. As if their results were perfect. You can count me among those who disagree with Google about that.

Jul 14, 2013 01:01 PM
Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

I spend less time worrying about SEO and more time about content. Somehow, I think SEO follows content. It's a mystery to me... but then I'm just busy servicing clients. SEO is not #1 of my things to think about each day.

Jul 14, 2013 10:20 PM
Charlie Dresen
The Group, Inc - Steamboat Springs, CO
Steamboat Springs, CO e-Pro

Great post Dave. Modern day SEO with David and Goliath. It's a constant battle to compete against those national syndication sites like Zillow and realtor.com. With so much volume they always rank, but offer no reputable information about the town I live and work in. Then the battle continues when they call me and offer me to sell me leads for my community. No SEO justice there. 

Jul 14, 2013 10:21 PM
Fernando Herboso - Associate Broker MD, & VA
Maxus Realty Group of Samson Properties - Clarksburg, MD
301-246-0001 Serving Maryland, DC and Northern VA

..if I follow Google's advice and just forget about SEO and just create content. . I would be buried on page 107 for the search term "my city" Homes for sale. . 

for that reason. .

I have a hat and if I need a gun. .I will bring it too!

Jul 14, 2013 11:17 PM
Paul Viau
Nova Scotia Real Estate Blog - Halifax, NS
Nova Scotia Real Estate Blog + Photo Services

The way I look at it is like this:  As long as you create good content and you don't pay for links you will be all right. Organic links are best!  Do it yourself!

 

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Jul 14, 2013 11:28 PM
Andrew Mooers | 207.532.6573
MOOERS REALTY - Houlton, ME
Northern Maine Real Estate-Aroostook County Broker

Make it white hat not black hat please.

Jul 15, 2013 12:11 AM
Dave Keys
MOVE UP in Google Search Learn How Here - Brea, CA
Chief Search Strategist Real Estate SEO Expert

@Andrew, a quick review of links to your website illustrates my point perfectly. There are plenty of links that are in place where it is obvious that the only reason they exist is to increase search results placement. There is plenty of OK and good links too but nearly all of them are the result of an arranged and prescribed targeting of opportunities for a link first and foremost. 

Let's be honest. Why would someone on a skin care website suddenly decide to link to a real estate website in another state. Why would anyone want to visit a "directory" website that looks like it was constructed in 1999 and left to this day with nothing but a wall of links? 

I'm not saying don't create links. I'm saying don't pretend it's white hat just because it doesn't run to the outer limits of violating Google's TOS. Google wants links created in one circumstance only- when someone creates something so compelling that a blogger or webmaster finds it so remarkable that they want to link to it out of admiration and response to the awesomeness of the content they saw.

Does that sound like anyone's real estate website? Usually not.

In Google's eyes, these are not the links they want created. They don't want links from blogs created to link back to a website. They don't want links arranged with other real estate website owners- paid or not. They don't want links from "real estate directories" or "business directories." They don't want links from "related businesses" websites- all of them equally uninteresting to the average visitor. While all these links are unlikely to ever get you penalized and may help your ranking over time unless another algorithm dismisses them entirely, they're not "white hat SEO." Google has closed the doors on that definition to un-manufactured popularity, PR campaigns and big brand recognition. Hence the appearance of Zillow and Trulia everywhere.

As to what real estate agents are doing to rank in Google, including the links created here on Active Rain, in a defined sense, it's all black hat. It's not black hat because it's dangerous or illegal but because black hat is very loosely defined, actually undefined, and Google says that this activity, while claimed to be "white hat" is not at all.

 

Jul 15, 2013 12:40 AM
Dave Keys
MOVE UP in Google Search Learn How Here - Brea, CA
Chief Search Strategist Real Estate SEO Expert

@Nina Charlotte is a great example. I know there are plenty of great local agents in Charlotte, NC. Lots of hard working agents who do everything they can every day to get their message out to market and get business. Since 90% of homebuyers start online, you would think that all the agents in Charlotte would like to be visible as quickly as possible when people start looking for homes there.

The sad truth is that almost none of the local agents are visible early on. Zillow, Trulia, etc. and brand name websites that may or may not have a local office that deserves to get the business and provides the best service to buyers- they appear first in Google because no one has leverage SEO to meet the challenge. Charlotte is a big market and big markets default to the aggregators unless someone challenges them with a fight. (SEO)

Some people feel that the aggregators should be first in these kind of searches. I obviously disagree. 

Jul 15, 2013 12:47 AM
Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

Dave, Our best bet is writing about what the mega-syndicators don't care about.  And if a link is pertinent and helps our readers, it's going in.

Jul 15, 2013 01:22 AM
Tim Maitski
Atlanta Communities Real Estate Brokerage - Atlanta, GA
Truth, Excellence and a Good Deal

@Paul #12 comment. You say that "organic links are best"

Then you go ahead and place a manufactured link in your comment.  That's really funny. I always thought that "organic links" were the links that people placed on their pages in a very natural way because they liked the content and wanted to share the information with others.  Placing your own link with your key words in a comment just isn't organic.

 

Jul 15, 2013 09:48 PM
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!

Comment #11 - Fernando!!! I love your comment! ActiveRain needs a like button by the comments;) yours is the best, I need my hat and my gun too because after all, this is a fight to the top! 

Paul- Comment #12- LOL! You just manufactured a link:) that link is not natural nor is it within ActiveRain's TOS. 

Dave- Great post! I so agree. The fact is that if you don't link or run PPC ads to your site- you most likely will not get found for many high commercial intent keywords. Those that sing kum ba ya can keep singing because their phone wont' be a ringing:). And then there are many people who say they don't do linking and yet, they do when you go to their site. Linking is the only way those little spiders can follow the web to your site. None of us are so famous that we would magically be found! 

Jul 16, 2013 10:36 AM
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!

Andrew- Post Penguin - new Google Algorithm updates- Google TOS- Your site is full of links that are not white hat. When I click on one of your links it takes me to another one of your "buffer sites" wherein lies links back to your main website and other web properties within the "buffer site circle". Maybe your terms are so longtail that the algorithm has not picked up on it yet. But that is certainly not white hat seo:) But I don't judge- more power to you- that was the way to do SEO a few years back. I have nothing against it. But it is not white hat and that is just fine with me:) 

Jul 16, 2013 10:42 AM
Dave Keys
MOVE UP in Google Search Learn How Here - Brea, CA
Chief Search Strategist Real Estate SEO Expert

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Jul 16, 2013 11:53 AM
AZ Mortgage Broker: Michael George
Arizona Wholesale Mortgage Inc. - Phoenix, AZ
AZ Mortgage Rates

Dave- my concern is about linking from "guest" blogs to our own content. Not being a smart-ass here, because I rarely create "no follow" links for any reason, but according to Matt Cutts your links (in this very post) should be no-follow. Just like the links in my posts-- and all of mine are do-follow also. So should you make your links "no follow" or did you just post a link to influence rankings SEO? :0)

Not trying to be a smart-ass, just wonder if you've ever thought about this...because I think about it all of the time. If we are ranked highly for SEO-related stuff, Google is eventually going to notice. As you know, Google also has human reviewers to "assist" the algorithm. What if someone at Google said, "Let's take a look at Dave Keys and Michael George..."

It kind of puts a chill down my spine.

 

Jul 28, 2013 08:01 AM
Dave Keys
MOVE UP in Google Search Learn How Here - Brea, CA
Chief Search Strategist Real Estate SEO Expert

@Michael, Remember what Bilbo used to say: "It's a dangerous business, Frodo, going out your door. You step onto the road, and if you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to." 

We are both long gone into "unauthorized" territory, Mr. George. I have seen the links to your website and you have probably seen the links to mine and Google considers all of them, according to their present guidelines on Webmaster tools, as manipulative, and indeed they are. We are in the business of helping our clients to be more visible to their clients. Google is in the business of optimizing their product in a way they see fit for their bottom line.

 One day, though I don't think it's a day that's anywhere near today, Google could turn off page rank altogether but then how would they make the behemoth they have built work? I believe you have an education in information systems so we both know how databases work. Google made a commitment in 2002 or so to use links as the basis for their sorting criteria. All of their stored procedures and indexes, etc. are built on this core concept. With over 1 trillion webpages depending on this construct, to simply unplug it would be the undoing of Google as we know it. Therefore, they are forced to tweak and tune their stored procedures to eliminate the worst of the spammers and they do a pretty good job of it. You and I are a long way from those folks who crank up SENuke and other tools on a daily basis. We all feel the effects of their dealing with those mass production spammers – when the tide comes in all ships rise.

I would love to see Google turn off links and you probably would too. We are both pretty competent writers and good writers would be the winners in such a scenario. We could both probably make a lot more money a lot faster by superior content writing alone but the unfortunate truth in business is that you have to do what works. In real estate, linking works. It's why Zillow (45.7 million links) and Trulia (7.7 million links) are ahead in the real estate SERPs game. Even with all the algorithms that attenuate the effectiveness of links, they still provide the most of force, so we have to build them in a way that is safe as possible. Rare indeed is the real estate agent that creates content so compelling that others naturally, in Google's "Kum Ba Ya" fashion want to link to it.

Jul 28, 2013 08:28 AM
AZ Mortgage Broker: Michael George
Arizona Wholesale Mortgage Inc. - Phoenix, AZ
AZ Mortgage Rates

@Dave-- actually I am constantly discovering new links to my site through my WordPress dashboard, but I don't pay that much attention.

I just found a ton of blog comment spam links to my site last week after I noticed some weird activity on my dashboard. Obviously, one of my competitors is trying to take me down a couple positions with some "negative SEO."

But this is where I think you and I may disagree. I don't think those bogus links help or harm me... Of course, my rankings are good, so they might be helping me, but I doubt it. I know linking is important, no doubt. But I think if I just had one link from The Whitehouse or Matt Cutts personally linked to me from his blog, that would be all I needed.

Any bogus links to my site- I can honestly say- I have no idea where they came from. Except the ones I create of course. Those are the ones I worry about. (AR, Zillow, blog sites that I may or may not secretly own and have privately registered) There ain't no denying that I linked to myself from a blog post I wrote. Anybody could spam on my behalf, but only I have the password to my AR blog.

The question I think about: How long before Google takes "authorship" and trumps author's links to author's content? This seems like it would be so easy to fix in the algorithm. Author content links to some other author content on another domain-- kill that link power.

That will be the next thing. It only makes sense. Then, with all this AR power, we might be the ones taking the hit. Easy fix though: remove authorship from AR profile before the inevitable happens. I just might do that as I sit here thinking about it...

Jul 28, 2013 10:08 AM
Dave Keys
MOVE UP in Google Search Learn How Here - Brea, CA
Chief Search Strategist Real Estate SEO Expert

Michael, I think we're pretty close in agreement here. Low quality links like the ones typically used in negative SEO are probably mostly automatically dismissed by G. Most blog comments are nofollow as well so they typically don't do anything either way. Whatever may get through for anchor text overoptimization is easily outed in a disavowal but usually, it seems not to really do anything although some claim it does. I've never had time to bark up that tree enough to even form an opinion.

I haven't seen any authorship influence one way or another yet. The #1 position for our own industry top searched keyword, real estate SEO, is swapped nearly every day between Kevin Harper who has quite the content silo thing going and controlled links mostly from client sites, and realestateseopros.net who rely almost entirely on a controlled high PR network. Their (the latter) clients fare pretty well too from what I've looked at.

After all, it's a database not a brain and we're all small fish here. Just the same, I'd love to see a more content based algorithm but that has its perils for a search engine too, doesn't it? Validation is a tough challenge. Just the other day, a royal heir to the throne was born and a crier made an announcement that was widely reported by major news organizations as being procured by an "official crier." This embarrassment sailed right by every safeguard against false content and wasn't corrected until days later. We can't expect computers, even the smart ones over at Google, to do better at judging content without some kind of voting system, so the more they turn off the more they put at risk the quality of their search results. I don't think Google makes that much of a fuss over the kind of links that you and I build even though they are in theory outside of what is officially sanctioned as is most of what is here on active rain in almost every other blog. They are really after the big time black hat spammers and I think they are doing a pretty good job of it lately.

Jul 28, 2013 11:21 AM