FHA's 1 Year Waiting Period After Short Sale Bankruptcy or Foreclosure

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Where was this three years ago? Better late than never I suppose. FHA is now insuring loans to homebuyers who have experienced an Economic EvFHA Back to Work Ruleent (Short Sale, Bankruptcy, Deed in Lieu of Foreclosure or Foreclosure) in the past and can document that (1) their certain credit impairments were the result of a Loss of Employment or a significant loss of Household Income beyond the borrower’s control, (2) the homebuyer has demonstrated full Recovery from the event and, (3) the homebuyer has completed housing counseling.

FYI, in the event of a short sale, this is for buyers who DID have late mortgage and/or installment debt in the 12 months preceding the closing of the short sale (since those who didn't have late payments don't have a waiting period and could buy right away without a waiting period).

A Recovery is considered full if, “the borrower’s credit history is clear of late housing or installment debt payments, and major derogatory credit issues on revolving accounts; any open mortgage is current and shows twelve (12) months satisfactory payment history. Mortgages may have been brought current through loan modification, which may be “temporary” or “permanent” so long as all payments have been documented as being received in accordance with the modification agreement.”

After the test for the Recovery is met, one must meet the another new test to see if the Loss of Employment or Loss of Income was severe enough to justify the Economic Event (in FHA’s “mind” anyway). The test put in place requires the documentation of a Borrower Household Income loss of twenty percent or more for a period of at least six months (sounds pretty arbitrary to me but hey, . . . that’s the new rule).

If your head aches from the jargon, see the definitions at the bottom of this post (just below the brief rant).

This may come as great new news but make no mistake, getting these transactions closed won’t be easy. As if putting together a standard FHA loan package isn’t onerous enough, the additional required documentation required for these loans will make it a veritable Spanish Inquisition. In addition to a standard mortgage documentation checklist, here’s the supplemental checklist for loans of this type: Unique Documentation Checklist Needed for Underwriting:

  • Verify and document a reduction in the borrower’s Household Income of twenty (20) percent or more for a period of at least six (6) months that resulted from the Loss of Employment, Loss of Income, or a combination of both (this is done using a combination of tax returns, W2’s, Verification of Employment forms, documentation of business closures, documentation of receipt of unemployment income or similarly reliable documentation and if the Loss of Income was seasonal in nature, a full two years prior to the prior to the loss of income must be documented)
  • Evidence of on time payment history for housing, all remaining mortgages and installment debt for the last 12 months
  • Evidence that (a) the bankruptcy was discharged 12 or more months ago, (b) the date of closing on a short sale was 12 or more months ago and finally (c) that 12 months have lapsed since the date of title transfer to the foreclosing lender in the event of a foreclosure
  • HUD Counseling Agency certificate of participation in pre-purchase counseling (this, at a minimum, is one hour of one-on-one counseling from HUD-approved housing counseling agencies be completed a minimum of thirty (30) days but no more than six (6) months prior to submitting a loan application to a lender)
  • Evidence of required disclosure from Counseling Agency (description of any financial relationships between the counseling agency and the lender – or lack thereof, statement that the borrower is not obligated to pursue a loan with a lender and finally, a statement that completion of the counseling program and receipt of a letter of completion of counseling do not qualify the borrower for an FHA loan)
  • And just when your eyes were already crossing, if you had a previous short sale, additional documentation will apply to prove that the proceeds from the short sale served as payment in full

While I am happy that HUD has introduced this Back to Work exception using extenuating circumstances for short sales, bankruptcies, deeds in lieu and foreclosures, there are a couple things about the way HUD treats short sales in particular that are eerily stupid. Firstly, one must have a hardship to qualify for a short sale so why re-litigate the past to the extent outlined in bullet point one of the documentation list above? It’s kind of arrogant to suggest that they’re going to render a better judgment than a previous creditor that already took a loss (and probably a big one). In other words, the twenty percent rule is a bit thick headed. Secondly, why is HUD the only remaining government loan backer or insurer that still requires a 30 day late payment on a mortgage in order to qualify for a short sale rather than following the Imminent Danger of Default rule? For as enlightened as they may seem on the buy side of a transaction, that stance might be the most unenlightened servicing policy I’ve seen. Lastly, where was this 3 years ago? As early as December of 2009, HUD allowed FHA loans immediately after a short sale under certain circumstances. Why on earth did it take them another three years and eight months to get here?

This is progress though. Maybe slow progress but progress nonetheless.

Definitions

  • An Economic Event is any occurrence beyond the borrower’s control that results in Loss of Employment, Loss of Income, or a combination of both, which causes a reduction in the borrower’s Household Income of twenty (20) percent or more for a period of at least six (6) months.
  • The Onset of an Economic Event is the month of Loss of Employment/Income.
  • Recovery from an Economic Event is the re-establishment of Satisfactory Credit for a minimum of twelve (12) months.
  • The term Borrower includes borrowers and co-borrower.
  • Borrower Household Income means the gross income of the borrower and all Household Members for purposes of assessing loss of income (not qualifying income on the new loan). The gross income of each Household Member must be computed in accordance with current FHA income requirements.
  • Household Member means an individual residing at the borrower’s primary residence at the time of the Economic Event and who was a co-borrower on the borrower’s previous mortgage.
  • Housing Counseling means counseling from a HUD-approved housing counseling agency
  • Brief Rant is an expression of Charles Dailey’s impatience regarding the banking industry’s slow changes and unenlightened thinking regarding the present creditworthiness of buyers who previously had a short sale

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Comments (35)

Bill and MaryAnn Wagner
Wagner Real Estate Group - Ocean City, NJ
Jersey Shore and South Jersey Real Estate
Charles, Thanks for the detailed information on this issue. We have a very high percentage of short sales in our market due to loss of income. I'm sure we'll be able to help many more people restructure and get back into their own home much sooner.
Aug 18, 2013 12:12 AM
Brenda J. Andrew
ULTIMA REAL ESTATE - Corpus Christi, TX
Professional Realtor in Corpus Christi, TX
That is great information. Thanks for letting us know!
Aug 18, 2013 12:16 AM
Edward & Celia Maddox
The Celtic Connection Realty - Queen Creek, AZ
EXPERIENCE & INTEGRITY - WE TAKE THE HIGH ROAD

Good information to have on FHA.  Thanks for sharing with us today.

Aug 18, 2013 02:24 AM
Lyn Sims
RE/MAX Suburban - Schaumburg, IL
Schaumburg Real Estate

What's the chance of getting one these puppies thru? I love the new verbiage 'ECONOMIC EVENT'.  Who makes up this stuff?

I also think that if the only thing late was their mortgage during the whole 'event' that's pretty darn good.  But then, they weren't paying a large portion of their debt (mortgage $$) so they should have extra money laying around right?

Aug 18, 2013 02:29 AM
Beth Atalay
Cam Realty and Property Management - Clermont, FL
Cam Realty of Clermont FL

Charles, Thank You for sharing great information with us, with all the extra work, I suspect FHA closings will even take longer than typical 30-45 days.

Aug 18, 2013 02:43 AM
David Shamansky
US Mortgages - David Shamansky - Highlands Ranch, CO
Creative, Aggressive & 560 FICO - OK, Colorado Mtg

Interesting. When did they make this change? I have to believe its a very recent mtgee letter as I don't recall seeing it but am going to check it now.

 

Thanks

Aug 18, 2013 02:56 AM
Charles Dailey
iLoan - NMLS ID#4474 - Saint Paul, MN

Nina Hollander – I learned from a previous post regarding buying immediately after a short sale using FHA financing (they have to stay current through closing to do that) that a checklist is a must on these.  Absent the supplemental checklist, the client gets “documentation fatigue” and I spend way more time on the phone.  Plus, if this stuff is in the file ahead of time, the underwriters love the file and treat it like a greased pig.  Absent the documentation, they beat the file up and make the file a hard close.

Norman Padula – I’ve seen plenty of strategic defaults on foreclosures but I really haven’t on short sales.  Perhaps my experience is strange but most of people I’ve dealt with on buying after a short sale were able to prove their hardship during the short sale process.  Most had debt to income ratios in excess of 45% at the time of their short sale.  The exceptions were typically reassigned soldiers or relocated employees.  Maybe I’ve had strange experience though.

Michael Setunsky – SLOW IS RIGHT.  I exercised restraint in my rant about this.  This should have come out as part of mortgagee letter 09-52 in December of 09.  I’m not embellishing here. . . I’ve taken hundreds of calls, emails and blog posts with scenarios that would have qualified for this over the last 3 years.  I’m not saying that it’s too little too late buy man, . . . what a missed opportunity.  Hopefully, in addition to getting some people back into homes under this Back to Work program, it will also shed light on the capacity for people to buy right away after a short sale using FHA and VA financing when current because there are still a ton of people struggling  out there who are trapped upside down in their homes.

Joe Pryor – FHA, until now, has either allowed you to buy right away after a short sale or wait 3 years.  VA is only slightly different.  Fannie will go after 2 years with 20% down or 10% down when documenting extenuating circumstances.  This is the first waiting period guideline change in a while.  Investors have had appetite for all of these.  I haven’t had problems selling my “buy after short sale” deals to investors at all.  Now actually preparing a good loan package for them is a different story.  Make no mistake, these are a pain to do and are NOT like doing a normal FHA, VA or conventional loan.  They take more coaching, preparation and documentation.  This one will be no exception.  This just came out and I already have investors who’ve adopted it.  Awesome dog photo by the way.

Bill Wagner – New Jersey!!!  Thanks for spreading the word.  The faster we get the good boomerang buyers back into housing, the faster the economy will improve.  Let me know if you can’t find people who know how to do these.  I’m in NJ too.

Lyn Sims – You’re so right.  Your question, “I love the new verbiage 'ECONOMIC EVENT'.  Who makes up this stuff?”  gets right to the heart of the matter.  This stuff is written by people who don’t understand the psychology of underwriters.  The psychology of underwriters is a lot like the dogs in this commercial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO9d2PpP7tQ.  So what’s the chance of these puppies going through?  Good IF this documentation checklist is followed and expect them to pay close attention to income calculation on the 20% rule.  If I were a Realtor and had a buyer under this program, I’d grill the loan officer to ensure that that threshold is definitely met and that all of the documentation is in the file prior to making an offer without exception.

Beth Atalay – Actually, that’s one of the beauties of rates going up.  Since refinance volume is down, processing and underwriting capacity has gone through the roof.  FHA’s are taking about 21 calendar days.  This particular loan would probably take a little longer NOT IN UDNERWRITING but in the pre-approval process.  Because of the extended preliminary analysis and extra documentation on these, it will take your loan officer longer to be ready with a pre-approval letter.

David Shamansky – Yeah it came out on my birthday (8-15).  I couldn’t have got a better birthday present.

Aug 18, 2013 04:16 AM
Cindy Jones
Integrity Real Estate Group - Woodbridge, VA
Pentagon, Fort Belvoir & Quantico Real Estate News

I've had one buyer who purchased 2 years after a short sale.   I do wonder if 1 year is long enough for someone to get fully back on their feet after an "economic event."

Aug 18, 2013 05:25 AM
Tim Lorenz
TIM LORENZ - Elite Home Sales Team - Mission Viejo, CA
949 874-2247

This really does make a big difference with the buyers.  Money is loosing up.

Aug 18, 2013 08:35 AM
Paddy Deighan MBA JD PhD
federalfinanciallawgroup.com - Vail, CO
Paddy Deighan J.D. Ph.D

this is great news that will help many people  and I think that it is fair..surprisingly so...I would say that 2-3 years after and adverse event would be fair

Aug 18, 2013 08:45 AM
Geoff ONeill
John L. Scott Medford - Medford, OR

I trust this will not bring on another bubble.

Aug 18, 2013 11:24 AM
Elizabeth Weintraub Sacramento Realtor Top 1%
RE/MAX Gold - Sacramento, CA
Put 40 years of experience to work for you

So, now that FHA has put these guidelines in place, which lenders are adopting them or are overlays preventing it? The government often has a way of making it sound like they're doing something but in the real world it doesn't work.

Aug 18, 2013 12:14 PM
Joan Whitebook
BHG The Masiello Group - Nashua, NH
Consumer Focused Real Estate Services

This is great news on the one hand, but it may be difficult to folks to meet these criteria.. Time will tell how successful the 1 year plan will work.

Aug 18, 2013 01:02 PM
Ralph Gorgoglione
Maui Life Homes / Metro Life Homes - Kihei, HI
Hawaii and California Real Estate (310) 497-9407

Charles, thanks for the excellent post! The details you have provided here will help all agents working with clients dealing with these issues.

Aug 18, 2013 01:58 PM
Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Andover, MA
Andover, MA: Andover Luxury Homes For Sale

Charles, one piece of useful information - at least for one of my ongoing transaction - does help my client as they are involved in chain that begins with them and ends with a short sale.

"HUD allowed FHA loans immediately after a short sale under certain circumstances."

Aug 18, 2013 03:46 PM
Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • Green • GRI • HAFA • PSC Calabasas CA

Actually, my lender said me about this opportunity for short sale sellers: FHA loan,1 year after event. But we just tried to PQ one of my clients who had SS last year, but we could not get him any financing. As they say: one should 'qualify'. Dah!..

Aug 18, 2013 04:17 PM
Pamela Seley
West Coast Realty Division - Murrieta, CA
Residential Real Estate Agent serving SW RivCo CA

Sounds like there will be many hurdles to overcome to get a FHA loan one year after short sale. Thanks for the information. 

Aug 18, 2013 04:27 PM
Christine Donovan
Donovan Blatt Realty - Costa Mesa, CA
Broker/Attorney 714-319-9751 DRE01267479 - Costa M

Charles - I agree that it would have been a good thing to have provided to borrowers in distress a few years ago.

Aug 18, 2013 04:30 PM
John Fauth
Coldwell Banker King Thompson - Grove City, OH
Turning your dreams into an address!

Great information Charles. Glad I came across this.

Aug 19, 2013 03:10 AM
Ava Anderson
A-Z Atlanta Realty - Snellville, GA
Selling Atlanta from A-Z!

Thanks for sharing this information in such great detail.  One of my clients called me about this last week and I called a loan officer to ask about it, but clearly they were not informed.

Aug 19, 2013 05:50 AM

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