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Will the Seller Consider "Owner Financing"?

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with MoonDancer Realty, Dillsboro,NC NC# 218097
 
During the recent economic crisis, a familiar question attached to telephone and internet leads from consumers is "Is the seller interested in owWill the seller owner financener financing?".
 
 
 
There is (I think) a misconception owner financing is plentiful, easy, a slam-dunk for buyers and a great deal for sellers. Not really. Most buyers I've spoken to in response to asking them, "how much shall I tell the seller you are able to put down as a down payment?" answer with a prolonged silence followed by a figure of $2,000 to $10,000. The callers rarely ask about vacant land or  cheap fixer-uppers.  They usually call about newly listed and modestly priced homes with 3BR/2BA, brand new appliances, newly painted and marketed to be in excellent shape with a price range from $150,000 to $200,000.
 
Occasionally we hear about a lender with loans for first time homebuyers with 3%  down payment BUT the governmentally insured USDA or FHA are there to back up the loan. Sellers doing owner financing do not have that same protection. The few sellers we've had with residential properties and willing to consider owner financing generally want large down payments, far in excess of what lenders ask for and more than most buyers can produce. Our sellers, who could owner finance want the buyer to put down 50%, with a term of 5 or 10 years which makes monthly payments impossible for the buyers.
 
Buyers beware...some sellers ARE willing and able to take on the risk of owner financing, in fact it is their desire to do so (here's the other secret though...some are hoping the buyer defaults so the seller can sell the house again!). 
 
Buyers never consider that sellers have plans for the income produced by the house sale. Some need to pay off their mortgage, they pay the listing commission  which is usually far more than the buyer's suggested down payment and some need the rest of the money for a down payment for on their own new home.
 
The major thing though that buyers never consider is the seller wants to know why the buyer can't obtain a loan.  Sellers are going to pull a credit report just like lenders do.  Sellers who might be in a position to owner finance will probably decide that if a lender with all the resources they have aren't willing to risk loaning money to the buyer...the wise seller will not either.
 
When our sellers aren't considering owner financing, we provide the buyer with blog post I wrote about Our Favorite Lenders in Western North Carolina and suggest they contact them. These loan originators are interested in long term relationship based associations, not just the short term providing of mortgages.  They do help buyes obtain mortgages if they are credit-worthy they also are prepared to counsel others who have credit issues to prepare them to buy a house.  It is an invaluable service.
 
Renters get tired of renting and want part of the American dream of owning their own home. We WANT them to have that opportunity...but not by putting our sellers at risk. 
 
So, when you pick up the phone to ask the Realtor "would the seller be willing to owner finance?" just be prepared to hear..."probably not".
 
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Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • GRI • HAFA • PSC Calabasas CA

I have a friend in OH who does a lot of owner financing in his transactions( it is his specialty). Yet, I don't see or even hear about owner financing these days here in Cali.

Aug 18, 2013 04:10 PM
Barbara Tattersall
Keller Williams Realty Metropolitan (Keene,NH) - Keene, NH
GRI

Years ago a savvy developer sub-divided a tract of land, had them all perc tested and offered seller financing with 20% down.  All the terms and conditions were in place and they were reasonably priced, too.  Back then banks wanted 35% down and your first born to loan on raw land. The lots were sold in a flash. It was just before the market began to rise. The young man I sold one to was able to see his investment double in one year and use the value as equity to build his first home. Love it when a plan comes together!

Aug 18, 2013 08:07 PM
Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

I never recommend that my sellers do owner financing. Just too much risk and liability. And with a strong market why would they consider it?

Aug 18, 2013 08:43 PM
Amanda Christiansen
Christiansen Group Realty (260)704-0843 - Fort Wayne, IN
Christiansen Group Realty

I have yet to see a land contract fully executed.  Most of them are drawn up to favor the seller and require a large down payment from the "buyers."  I don't recommend them.  If you aren't a strong buyer, rent until you are in a position to get a regular mortgage.  

Aug 18, 2013 09:22 PM
Mona Gersky
MoonDancer Realty, Dillsboro,NC - Sylva, NC
GRI,IMSD-Taking the mystery out of real estate.

All very interesting comments and IF a buyer is qualified and IF the seller would not be damaged by a buyer's default then owner financing has some merit.  The callers we are getting now though are interested in owner financing because they don't really understand it, are NOT credit worthy and have no down payment.

I am aware that there are thousands of transactions with owner financing that work well but there are probably just as many and even more that don't.

Most of you understood that all I'm saying is BEWARE!

Thanks very much for the interest and debate with this topic.

Aug 18, 2013 09:46 PM
Wallace S. Gibson, CPM
Gibson Management Group, Ltd. - Charlottesville, VA
LandlordWhisperer

I just sold an investment property CASH to holdng a $25,000 second - CASH was over $100,000 and exchanged INTO an investment where seller is holdng back 10 year note....it is a win-win....

Aug 18, 2013 09:51 PM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

Yes to Wallace above and her point...You cant lose in that scenario and the return is good..

Aug 18, 2013 11:33 PM
Raymond Denton
Homesmart / Evergreen Realty - Irvine, CA
Irvine Realtor®

Reminds me of when I bought my house in Anaheim.  I paid the owner $5,000.00 and after a 3 day escrow purchased a $280,000.00 house.  They pulled my credit first, and said I had the second highest score they've ever seen - that probably had something to do with it.

Aug 19, 2013 12:43 AM
Suzanne Otto
Six Twenty Designs - Lansdale, PA
Your Montgomery County PA home stager

Owner financing seems very tricky. Definitely not for first time buyers who are taking advantage of FHA loans and such. How else would they come up with such a large down payment?

Aug 19, 2013 12:49 AM
Leslie Helm
Tennessee Recreational Properties - Jamestown, TN
Real Estate For Trail Riders

Hi, Mona. This is one of the best posts I've read; congratulations on the Feature!

I've had several sellers do a RECORDED land contract for owner financing buit it is usually on a lower-priced piece of land where the down payment is do-able, not a residential property. Most sellers who are in the mindset to sell just want to get it done and get out of it; they don't want to get involved with owner financing.

Amazingly, would-be buyers who ask about owner financing expect to get it at the same low rate that banks are offering and don't understand why they should have to pay a higher percentage if owners are willing to carry a note.

Aug 19, 2013 01:09 AM
Andrew Mooers | 207.532.6573
MOOERS REALTY - Houlton, ME
Northern Maine Real Estate-Aroostook County Broker

Use owner financing all day long with land sales and not so much with homes as longer stretch to pay back for the average seller who wants, needs to replace the place.

Aug 19, 2013 01:10 AM
Greg Nino
RE/MAX Compass - Houston, TX
Houston, Texas

I don't recall hearing any positive news in any situation with regard to Owner Financing unless it was about the Seller!

Aug 19, 2013 02:18 AM
Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

This is something that buyers actually do need to be careful about.  It's best if they see an attorney specialzing in these types of investments.   I always wonder why the property won't finance, or maybe the buyer??

Aug 19, 2013 03:07 AM
Rosie Crow
Serving Sugar Land, Richmond, Rosenberg, Missouri City - Sugar Land, TX
Exceeding Expectations. Delivering Results
I agree with Carla. You need to get an attorney involved with these type of transactions. I don't specialize in owner financing or lease purchases simply because of the risk and liability factors.
Aug 19, 2013 03:24 AM
Andrew Payne Realtor® Richmond VA Homes For Sale~804-938-5257~
Piedmont Real Estate - Richmond, VA
Richmond, VA, Real Estate, SRES®, NAR Green
Mona, Thanks for sharing about owner financing. Especially the part about a very large down payment often being expected is very useful information to know! Thanks again, Andrew
Aug 19, 2013 03:30 AM
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

A true point - why don't buyers think that sellers need their money to move?  This always baffles me as the seller just has barrels full of money in the basement that they can't use.  As soon as I hear this phrase - alarms go off about bad credit on the buyers part.

Aug 19, 2013 04:37 AM
David Shamansky
US Mortgages - David Shamansky - Highlands Ranch, CO
Creative, Aggressive & 560 FICO - OK, Colorado Mtg

Hey Mona, as you, so eloquently, put it its nto a bad deal but there are so many better deals out there it needs to be used correctly and when thats the case sure however I see the needc fewer and fewer these days

Aug 19, 2013 06:12 AM
Bryan Robertson
Los Altos, CA

I rarely run across seller financing and when I do, the terms are not nearly as good as a bank.  The seller is taking a huge risk on a default in some cases with little more recourse than foreclosure which can be expensive and time consuming.

Aug 19, 2013 07:12 AM
Elva Branson-Lee
Solid Source Realty GA - Atlanta, GA
CDPE - Atlanta Real Estate & Short Sale Agent

Maybe the newly relaxed guideline for getting a mortgage again after a BK, foreclosure or short sale will slow the demand for owner financing and meet the needs of some of these buyers.

Aug 19, 2013 12:42 PM
Jack O'Neal
HomeSmart Elite Group - Gilbert, AZ

Can be a win or a loss for both parties, depends on the property, terms and buyer and seller

Aug 19, 2013 01:36 PM