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Interest Rates, Underwriting Turn times= Exercise caution on FHA rate locks

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Mortgage and Lending with Fifth Third Bank NMLS #457556

You may have read some other posts on ActiveRain about mortgage rates in recent days/weeks wondering exactly what's going on and speculating on where we are headed.  First I will reiterate that what the Fed does will not necessarily translate into what long-term interest rates like mortgages do.  The end of January did offer the best rates we have seen for quite some time but since about 2/10 rates have worsened from one day to the next about 80% of the time.  If you are "floating" right now, you might feel like you're playing a game of "Deal or No Deal" gone wrong and you're opening all the cases with the big amounts in them. 

So what's going on?

First off, the yield on the 10-year bond is having a significant effect.  As I type this post it is sitting at 3.87%.  Generally speaking, as the price drops the yield goes up and so do mortgage rates.  A drop of 11/32+ or more  to the bond is often an omen of a mid-afternoon price/rate change.  If the yield were to spike up to say 3.93 or 3.94 this afternoon we would most likely see a rate hike before the close of business Easten time.  If the yield drops, lenders are a little less quick on the trigger to improve rates (just like gas prices right!?)This leads us to the second part of the equation...

Second, underwriting volume and turnaround time on loan packages---particularly FHA and VA loans are stretched right now with many of the nation's largest FHA lenders/servicers.  They see no need to drastically improve pricing for loan applications they can barely accommodate.  Government loan demand is up and the capacity/number of mortgage companies to handle the demand is down.  There are only so many DE certified underwriters to approve these loans and you cannot just add more of those overnight.  If you have a loan in the backlog at Taylor, Bean, and Whitaker right now you know exactly what I mean here!  Wells Fargo has gone from 3 to 5 and now to 7 business days on new submissions in the last 2 weeks.  With clearing conditions for month-end closings this week, it might just get worse before it gets better.   On top of this, these lenders are seeing a lot of loans that simply do not come close to qualifying with poorly-completed submissions just trying to throw something against the wall to see if it sticks. Volume that would have gone, dare I say "Subprime" (beginning to hate that term and its overused generalizations) is being funneled into the FHA pipeline too...the magnitude of processing denials creates an additional burden.

If you are an agent working with a buyer pre-approved for FHA, patience will be a virtue.  Don't steer buyers away from FHA though--For many buyers it is the best option available to them.  (see my previous blog post on FHA vs Conventional pricing).  Do advise them to be watchful of rate locks and aware of when they expire.  If you are writing a contract today a 15-day FHA lock just isnt going to cut it with many FHA lenders right now.  If an FHA loan is the best scenario for my borrower, I will gladly explain to them exactly why it's worth the little bit of extra time in their case.  If more loan officers had done this over the quicky subprime loans a couple years ago, let's face it...we wouldn't have as many problems in the lending industry as we do right now.  The Option ARM's thankfully never got popular around here in Kentucky but there sure were a ton of those 2 and 3 year ARM's with high margins!

Best wishes to all out there---Thanks for reading and I appreciate your feedback.

-Kevin

Brian Schulman
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage, Lancaster PA - Lancaster, PA
Lancaster County PA RealEstate Expert 717-951-5552
Kevin, I would imagine that FHA is slow right now precisely because they are meeting a need which has been abandoned by the subprime lenders.  The wait is probably worthwhile - as long as buyers know what to expect.
Feb 26, 2008 06:23 AM
Kevin Weaver
Fifth Third Bank - Cincinnati, OH
an experienced mortgage professional NMLS #457556

Exactly Brian...Agents I work with frequently understand this and I make sure my buyers do as well.  Occasionally I get the know-it-all listing agent who calls me claiming it shouldnt take an extra week.  But for the most part buyers and sellers are willing to work things out when they have realistic expectations and realize that a closing is the ultimate goal for everyone involved.

 

 

Feb 26, 2008 06:32 AM
Steven Odierno
Mahwah, NJ
NJ Mortgage & Marketing Professional

Kevin - Excellent point about the demand on FHA DE Underwriters and their staffs.  And you are most certainly correct in your assessment of the loans that do not have a chance to go FHA but which are undoubtedly gumming up the works.   What is key right now is the management of expectations - whether the expectations belong to the client, a real estate agent, or to the LOs who might work for us.  (I find myself fighting a constant battle as my internal clock keeps reverting back to the past when loans simply closed more quickly.)  But I would much rather a client be pleasantly surprised that a loan closed earlier than an over-estimation of the time it would take than make promises that I have no control over keeping.   

Feb 26, 2008 06:41 AM
Susan Davis
Austin, TX
Excellence Advocate
Talk about turn times.... we just had a nightmare with Wells Fargo. 2 weeks into the APPROVAL and 2 days before close we get stipped for an addendum to the appraisal. They had the appraisal for 2 weeks!!! I called all the way the ladder and rose a stink ....needless to say... the loan got closed on time. I appreciate your information!
Feb 26, 2008 07:27 AM
Anonymous
Kristen

I am scared shi7 less... We had an adendum that was needed by last night June 30th 2008  at 8pm... it wasnt received till today at 10am.

The listing agent says if we dont close on the 3rd that she will re list the property.  it is in the underwriters hands now and im scared...

The listing agent told not only our realtor but our mortgage guy as well that if we dont close on the third that she will re list

What should I do?  PLEASE HELP!

Jul 01, 2008 03:11 AM
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Kevin Weaver
Fifth Third Bank - Cincinnati, OH
an experienced mortgage professional NMLS #457556

Kristen,

We deal with situations like this all the time but I understand how this can be unnerving to a homebuyer.  Was the addendum from the appraiser?  Curious what kind of addendum you needed.

My next question would be whether you have any other open conditions the underwriter also needs to sign off on?  If this is the only condition and its a simple addendum to get your clear-to-close I would think they should be able to clear it quickly.

Do you currently have a contract extension in place that expires 7/3?

Kevin Weaver

Jul 01, 2008 03:20 AM
Anonymous
Ben

My wife and i are currently going threw this long agonizing process. weve had the home of our dreams under contract since the 13th of march and are closing approaching our 2nd extented closing date (may 14th) my broker and processer have adivsed that we have been approved for the loan but getting threw the final underwriting piece has been nothing short if heartache due to our lender being bogged down with loans. Weve ben stipped threw the entire process mainly due to our credit scores and the fact that im solely the income for my family.without this blog and many others like this i would of already ran myself crazy with the sleepness nights, the thing going on in the stomach and had having to explain to people that i already told were buying a house and them wanting to know whats going on.

let me stop badgering as i can go all night on this topic. my realtor along with everyone else that has been threw this keeps telling us in 30 days we wil look back and say wow, remember when!!!!!!!!!!

thanks for listening.....

May 11, 2009 03:31 PM
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Kevin Weaver
Fifth Third Bank - Cincinnati, OH
an experienced mortgage professional NMLS #457556

Hi Ben,

I completely understand.  Thanks for reading my blog.  Been so busy with loans that haven't had as much time for new blog posts lately.  Looking back on this post from 2008 it's amazing how many things have changed but how things like this have stayed the same or in some cases gotten worse.

The large wholesale lenders seem to be overwhelmed and in many areas of the country underwriting times have been stretched to really test the nerves of many homebuyers like yourselves.  If you need some re-assurance about what they need to resolve to get your loan closed for you I'd be happy to help by phone or e-mail. We're all in this together!

Hope you close soon! 

-Kevin Weaver

May 11, 2009 03:49 PM
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Jun 08, 2009 08:08 PM
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Anonymous
Hmm

Right now underwriting is at 72-96 hours.  I think we hit the bottom on the market prices are still shrinking slowly but the bump in rates from 4.25 and 4.375 to 4.875 and 5.0 has brought buyers into the market trying to get a sub 5 rate.  Stablization is on the way but I predict it won't be recognized until spring with the traditional building/moving market takes off.

 

 

Jan 05, 2011 01:53 AM
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